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“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#41 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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And that is why we cannot have this discussion with you. You evidently do not live in the real world, but I would be interested, just for the sake of hearing, how you intend to be sure that machine guns, bazookas, and surface to air missiles are not ever used for any criminal purposes if they should become available to the public.
I don't intend to be sure. That is not my problem. You asked for my opinion about the 2nd Amendment.

We currently have hundreds, if not thousands, of gun restrictions on the books. They do NOTHING to stop people intent on committing crimes from committing them. Adding additional laws will do NOTHING. They will only encumber and harass otherwise law abiding citizens to no purpose.

If I possess a machine gun and do not use it to commit crimes or harm others why do you care?

If you are concerned about crime, let's start raising the penalty for committing crimes. Personally I would just as soon hang everyone who commits crime more serious than say, Grand Theft Auto. Hang the drug dealers and you will see fewer people willing to risk their lives to deal drugs.

You see, we don't have a gun problem in this country other than the cost is skyrocketing. We had a people problem. People do not respect the property and rights of others. This problem is acute amongst the more liberal members of our society.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#42 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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This has to be the epitome of useless, knee-jerk, feel-good gestures. So the plan is, if there is an incident, the police will respond, enter the school, locate and open the locked safe, acquire the AR-15s, and then take action to end the violence. It might, just possibly, work better if Fontanna had police officers who carried weapons and could respond without doing some foolish ritualistic dance. We are dealing with a rash of stupidity in our attempts to answer the call for "gun control."
I will have to agree with you on this one. It would be far better to have a few willing and trained teachers openly carrying spread throughout the school.

Good gun control means reliably hitting your target.
UR CRAZY

Herndon, PA

#43 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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No.
We are discussing gun control, not automobile control.
Why are we discussing gun control?
There were idiots that went and killed kids at a school.
My question is if that idiot who had no business with a firesrm had used a car to kill would yu be screaming car control?
Anon

Herndon, PA

#44 Jan 23, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
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I don't intend to be sure. That is not my problem. You asked for my opinion about the 2nd Amendment.
We currently have hundreds, if not thousands, of gun restrictions on the books. They do NOTHING to stop people intent on committing crimes from committing them. Adding additional laws will do NOTHING. They will only encumber and harass otherwise law abiding citizens to no purpose.
If I possess a machine gun and do not use it to commit crimes or harm others why do you care?
If you are concerned about crime, let's start raising the penalty for committing crimes. Personally I would just as soon hang everyone who commits crime more serious than say, Grand Theft Auto. Hang the drug dealers and you will see fewer people willing to risk their lives to deal drugs.
You see, we don't have a gun problem in this country other than the cost is skyrocketing. We had a people problem. People do not respect the property and rights of others. This problem is acute amongst the more liberal members of our society.
In theory, if you have a machine gun and do not use it criminally, I don't care. But, in reality, I am not ready to trust you, or for that matter anyone, to not go bananas and decide to go "post office" or to keep your machine gun so secure and guarded that it absolutely will not be stolen and fall into criminal hands.

Let's, just for a moment, limit our discussion to the massacre at Sandy Hill school. The young shooter stole his guns from his mother right before he murdered her. After fatally shooting 25 other people, he killed himself. It appears that this was his intention. Who are we going to hang and what will this do to prevent another tragedy?

I agree that we have a people problem. Realistically, how would you propose to teach and convince people to respect the property and rights of others?
Anon

Herndon, PA

#45 Jan 23, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
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Good gun control means reliably hitting your target.
OK, that is a cute but overused quote. Lets admit that we have a problem with unstable people who use guns to massacre children. That is what this discussion is all about. We say we need "gun control" but what we MUST do is control the availability and use of guns by people who are not restrained by normal decency, who are not concerned with laws, and who use these guns to kill. I do not know the answer.

Let me reiterate, I am a gun owner and I do not feel that my constitutional rights are threatened. I don't presently own an "assault weapon" and I will not be heart broken if they are banned. But, I don't think this will resolve the problem. I also do not agree with the NRA that the answer to the "gun problem" is more guns.
Video game

Saint Marys, GA

#46 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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In theory, if you have a machine gun and do not use it criminally, I don't care. But, in reality, I am not ready to trust you, or for that matter anyone, to not go bananas and decide to go "post office" or to keep your machine gun so secure and guarded that it absolutely will not be stolen and fall into criminal hands.
Let's, just for a moment, limit our discussion to the massacre at Sandy Hill school. The young shooter stole his guns from his mother right before he murdered her. After fatally shooting 25 other people, he killed himself. It appears that this was his intention. Who are we going to hang and what will this do to prevent another tragedy?
I agree that we have a people problem. Realistically, how would you propose to teach and convince people to respect the property and rights of others?
Beat the shit out of them.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#47 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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OK, that is a cute but overused quote. Lets admit that we have a problem with unstable people who use guns to massacre children. That is what this discussion is all about. We say we need "gun control" but what we MUST do is control the availability and use of guns by people who are not restrained by normal decency, who are not concerned with laws, and who use these guns to kill. I do not know the answer.
Let me reiterate, I am a gun owner and I do not feel that my constitutional rights are threatened. I don't presently own an "assault weapon" and I will not be heart broken if they are banned. But, I don't think this will resolve the problem. I also do not agree with the NRA that the answer to the "gun problem" is more guns.
That "cute quote" is the only definition I will accept as a meaning for the phrase "gun control."

I am willing to listen to any ideas you may have that do not place ANY additional legal restrictions, impediments, or costs on otherwise law abiding citizens. No gun registration, no additional taxes, no limitations on the possession of semi-automatic weapons or accessories. Convicted felons and in-patient mental health patients excepted.

Assault Weapons have been strictly restricted for decades. A rifle is not an assault weapon unless it has a fire select switch. If it will not fire more than one round per trigger pull, it is NOT an assault weapon.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#48 Jan 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
In theory, if you have a machine gun and do not use it criminally, I don't care. But, in reality, I am not ready to trust you, or for that matter anyone, to not go bananas and decide to go "post office" or to keep your machine gun so secure and guarded that it absolutely will not be stolen and fall into criminal hands.
Let's, just for a moment, limit our discussion to the massacre at Sandy Hill school. The young shooter stole his guns from his mother right before he murdered her. After fatally shooting 25 other people, he killed himself. It appears that this was his intention. Who are we going to hang and what will this do to prevent another tragedy?
I agree that we have a people problem. Realistically, how would you propose to teach and convince people to respect the property and rights of others?
I don't know what we do to prevent another Sandy Hook. I do know the placing restrictions on law abiding gun owners is NOT the answer.

I would start with repetitive training that what other people have is not yours and you should not touch it. If you want something, earn the money yourself and buy it. Couple that with increasingly strict punishments for theft as appropriate for their age.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#49 Jan 24, 2013
All gun owners are 'gun nuts' huh?
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#50 Jan 24, 2013
Gumbeaux Roux wrote:
All gun owners are 'gun nuts' huh?
Only in the minds of anti-gun freaks!
Nonanon

Herndon, PA

#51 Jan 24, 2013
Gumbeaux Roux wrote:
All gun owners are 'gun nuts' huh?
Judging by the posts here, absolutely YES!

Just read, we've got nuts that believe owning machine guns, surface-to-air missiles, grenade launchers, etc., is perfectly fine and -- NORMAL! They have all drunk the kool-aid and are hopeless fanatics.

So ya, "Gun Nuts" is the appropriate terminology.

And BTW, we're gonna get some gun legislation and E.O.'s through this time.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#52 Jan 24, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
This has to be the epitome of useless, knee-jerk, feel-good gestures. So the plan is, if there is an incident, the police will respond, enter the school, locate and open the locked safe, acquire the AR-15s, and then take action to end the violence. It might, just possibly, work better if Fontanna had police officers who carried weapons and could respond without doing some foolish ritualistic dance. We are dealing with a rash of stupidity in our attempts to answer the call for "gun control."
No, they have their own school police force that is separate from the municiple polcie force. They answer to the school system. The school police are actually physically present in the schools during the school day. The idea is to have equivalent fire power available on campus but not have the campus police roaming the halls with an AR-15 over their shoulder.

Try re-reading it with your Jay Derangement Syndrome in check.

“It's comong.”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#53 Jan 24, 2013
Nonanon wrote:
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Judging by the posts here, absolutely YES!
Just read, we've got nuts that believe owning machine guns, surface-to-air missiles, grenade launchers, etc., is perfectly fine and -- NORMAL! They have all drunk the kool-aid and are hopeless fanatics.
So ya, "Gun Nuts" is the appropriate terminology.
And BTW, we're gonna get some gun legislation and E.O.'s through this time.
Based on my understanding of the second ammendment, all of those exotic weapons would be acceptable under the second ammendment. I don't know if an individual can own a SAM but machine guns are legal. Go back and read the Second.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#54 Jan 24, 2013
What-the-hell? Cops have to buy their own service weapons?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/24/iowa-pol...
Schoolmarm

Herndon, PA

#55 Jan 24, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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No, they have their own school police force that is separate from the municiple polcie force. They answer to the school system. The school police are actually physically present in the schools during the school day. The idea is to have equivalent fire power available on campus but not have the campus police roaming the halls with an AR-15 over their shoulder.
Try re-reading it with your Jay Derangement Syndrome in check.
Julian, what is a "municiple polcie"?

Have you been watching porn again?
Anon

Herndon, PA

#56 Jan 24, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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No, they have their own school police force that is separate from the municiple polcie force. They answer to the school system. The school police are actually physically present in the schools during the school day. The idea is to have equivalent fire power available on campus but not have the campus police roaming the halls with an AR-15 over their shoulder.
Try re-reading it with your Jay Derangement Syndrome in check.
I went back and read it and further researched the Fontana School Police. Nothing made me feel that this silly gesture guaranteed any additional protection.

I'm sorry if you are deranged but that is your problem, not mine.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#57 Jan 25, 2013
Nonanon wrote:
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So ya, "Gun Nuts" is the appropriate terminology.
And BTW, we're gonna get some gun legislation and E.O.'s through this time.
Basing all gun owners off posts on Topix is rather ignorant. Chastising and 'criminalizing' gun owners is not only a bad idea but it'll negate your E.O.'s and any legislation that may or may not get passed. Polorizing the U.S. voters is just bad politics and Clinton (and the Democratic party as a whole) learned that the hard way.

It's NOT the responsible, tax-paying, lawful gun owners that are the problem..... When is that going to be understood? Or are all the liberial anti's drunk on the Kool-Aid?
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#58 Jan 25, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I went back and read it and further researched the Fontana School Police. Nothing made me feel that this silly gesture guaranteed any additional protection.
I'm sorry if you are deranged but that is your problem, not mine.
Anon, it doesn't matter at all what you feel. Its what the people wanted and the constitution allows!

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#59 Jan 25, 2013
Schoolmarm wrote:
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Julian, what is a "municiple polcie"?
Have you been watching porn again?
"Polcie /porn"? Huh? Nexus?
Anon

Herndon, PA

#60 Jan 25, 2013
Gumbeaux Roux wrote:
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Basing all gun owners off posts on Topix is rather ignorant. Chastising and 'criminalizing' gun owners is not only a bad idea but it'll negate your E.O.'s and any legislation that may or may not get passed. Polorizing the U.S. voters is just bad politics and Clinton (and the Democratic party as a whole) learned that the hard way.
It's NOT the ... When is that going to be understood? Or are all the liberial anti's drunk on the Kool-Aid?
I understand that responsible, tax-paying, lawful gun owners are not the problem. I am one. That's what makes this such a difficult problem to even begin to resolve.

If we had never had the Second Amendment and guns had always been totally banned, as they are in some countries, we would not have the problem of a few crazies getting their hands on guns and massacring innocent people, too often children, in public places. We would have (almost) no gun related crimes. However, we do have the freedom to own and use guns and none of us wants to give up that freedom.

The problem is, how do we stop the crazies from getting the guns and massacring our children? I don't have a good answer.

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