Global Warming Assumes Room Temperature

Global Warming Assumes Room Temperature

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“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#1 Jun 12, 2013
National Review Online
by Mark Steyn

As readers may know, National Review and I have an impending court date in Washington with Dr, Michael E, Mann, creator of the global-warming “hockey stick” and self-proclaimed Nobel laureate, for the hitherto unknown crime of “defamation of a Nobel prize recipient.”(You can contribute to our legal defense fund here; also, the TV rights to my forthcoming white Bronco chase are still available – we’ll be using a hybrid, of course).

Forced by circumstance to take an interest in the latest developments on the climate-change “consensus,” I was interested to see this story, in which the New York Times belatedly acknowledges that for the last 15 years it’s been all quiet on the warming front:

"The rise in the surface temperature of earth has been markedly slower over the last 15 years than in the 20 years before that. And that lull in warming has occurred even as greenhouse gases have accumulated in the atmosphere at a record pace.

"The slowdown is a bit of a mystery to climate scientists."

You don’t say. Fortunately, Times man Justin Gillis has an explanation for the forlorn droop on Dr. Mann’s hockey stick — or at any rate for the previous cooling trend:

"Now, here is a crucial piece of background: It turns out we had an earlier plateau in global warming, from roughly the 1950s to the 1970s, and scientists do not fully understand that one either. A lot of evidence suggests that sunlight-blocking pollution from dirty factories may have played a role, as did natural variability in ocean circulation. The pollution was ultimately reduced by stronger clean-air laws in the West."

So environmental laws led to the global warming of the Eighties and Nineties? Great! Whether today’s cooling is a blip in the global-warming trend of the Nineties, or the Nineties warming was a blip in the global-cooling trend of the Fifties, I cannot say. But either way it doesn’t look like a hockey blade.

Link to Article: http://www.nationalreview.com/node/350738/pri...

Links referenced in article:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332396/n...
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331592/w...
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335221...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/science/ear... ;
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#2 Jun 12, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
National Review Online
by Mark Steyn
As readers may know, National Review and I have an impending court date in Washington with Dr, Michael E, Mann, creator of the global-warming “hockey stick” and self-proclaimed Nobel laureate, for the hitherto unknown crime of “defamation of a Nobel prize recipient.”(You can contribute to our legal defense fund here; also, the TV rights to my forthcoming white Bronco chase are still available – we’ll be using a hybrid, of course).
Forced by circumstance to take an interest in the latest developments on the climate-change “consensus,” I was interested to see this story, in which the New York Times belatedly acknowledges that for the last 15 years it’s been all quiet on the warming front:
"The rise in the surface temperature of earth has been markedly slower over the last 15 years than in the 20 years before that. And that lull in warming has occurred even as greenhouse gases have accumulated in the atmosphere at a record pace.
"The slowdown is a bit of a mystery to climate scientists."
You don’t say. Fortunately, Times man Justin Gillis has an explanation for the forlorn droop on Dr. Mann’s hockey stick — or at any rate for the previous cooling trend:
"Now, here is a crucial piece of background: It turns out we had an earlier plateau in global warming, from roughly the 1950s to the 1970s, and scientists do not fully understand that one either. A lot of evidence suggests that sunlight-blocking pollution from dirty factories may have played a role, as did natural variability in ocean circulation. The pollution was ultimately reduced by stronger clean-air laws in the West."
So environmental laws led to the global warming of the Eighties and Nineties? Great! Whether today’s cooling is a blip in the global-warming trend of the Nineties, or the Nineties warming was a blip in the global-cooling trend of the Fifties, I cannot say. But either way it doesn’t look like a hockey blade.
Link to Article: http://www.nationalreview.com/node/350738/pri...
Links referenced in article:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332396/n...
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331592/w...
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335221...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/science/ear... ;
Lone Palm
You're whistling in the wind.
The "global warming" people have no intentionof listening to anyone who disagrees with them regardless of the facts quoted. Or the intentional errors in the global warming study.
They were told more than 3 times by the news media that global warming is fact.
As the old adage goes "tell a person something 3 or more times and they will accept it as "fact"
I used to play tennis doubles with the asscoiate editor of The Charlotte Observer and he always used to quote that adage and laugh at how gulible the public is.
Good post though.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#3 Jun 12, 2013
I don't expect to convert any of them. You cannot reason a person out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.

I do hope to point out over, and over, and over again the inconsistencies of the position they have let their emotions lead them to into supporting.

The worst thing you can do to a liberal, other than quoting them accurately, is show them that what they believe is so, isn't so. It sets up a cognitive dissonance between their thoughts and their emotions. This leads them to avoid a subject or become even more shrill. They will generally resort attacking the messenger since they cannot refute the argument.

Sort of like a certain local poster that is long on invective and nonexistent on substance.
LonePalm Sux

Kingsland, GA

#4 Jun 12, 2013
Moi? Fuque you, m'sieur. Enjoy the 109 degree heat index.

Asshat.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#5 Jun 12, 2013
Poor baby. Did my comment hit too close to home? I guess it did.

This stuff is just too easy.

I am certainly enjoying myself living rent free in your head. I think carpeting would cut down on the echo.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#6 Jun 12, 2013
LonePalm Sux wrote:
Moi? Fuque you, m'sieur. Enjoy the 109 degree heat index.
Asshat.
Typical of those who know nothing only repeat what they have been told.
Ignore his worthless postings. He never has anything worthwhile to say just cussing.
His parents did him a great disservice.
LonePalm Sux

Kingsland, GA

#7 Jun 13, 2013
I like being able to make your nanny meters go into the red zone.

Asshats.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#8 Jun 13, 2013
Lone Palm.
Aren't you always amazed that those who scream "global warming is coming the earth is doomed" know actually little about it. They get all their news from the newspapers and take it as gospel.
They do no research on their own and are not aware of the flawed studies and those scientists that disagree with the studies.
The old "tell a story 3 times and people will believe it" scam..
LOL LOL
Be kinda funny if it weren't so sad.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#10 Jun 13, 2013
Science: If you aren't making mistakes you're doing it wrong. If you aren't fixing your mistakes, you're doing it really wrong. If you can admit your mistakes you aren't doing it at all.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#11 Jun 13, 2013
Bubba the Love Stump wrote:
What's sad is that you think that you are informed. What's sad is that you continue to annoy and waste bandwidth reposting horseshit because you think you are better informed. What makes your junk science any better than anyone elses?
Asshat.
LOL LOL LOL
My faith in human nature in restored.
And, what articles have you read? LOL LOL
Bubba the Love Stump

Saint Marys, GA

#12 Jun 13, 2013
Lick Our Labia. More than you'll ever be able to comprehend. Noen from Fox or Newsmax.

Asshats.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#13 Jun 13, 2013
LOL LOL
The amusement never ceases!!
LOL
LOL LOL

Atlanta, GA

#14 Jun 13, 2013
Bubba, you sound like LP's "yes man". I agree with some of his posts and there are those where the sources he quotes or relays his info from are merely right/left spin factories. But you, you follow him like the little dog in the WB cartoon......."You tell 'em Butch". And don't throw that "liberal" line my way, I've got a lot more reasons than you to be pro free enterprise without government interference.

Stand on your own two feet, unless you truly have four legs.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#15 Jun 13, 2013
LOL LOL wrote:
Bubba, you sound like LP's "yes man". I agree with some of his posts and there are those where the sources he quotes or relays his info from are merely right/left spin factories. But you, you follow him like the little dog in the WB cartoon......."You tell 'em Butch". And don't throw that "liberal" line my way, I've got a lot more reasons than you to be pro free enterprise without government interference.
Stand on your own two feet, unless you truly have four legs.
I do not understand your posting.
I do agree with some of Lone Palms postings as it seems he/she has done the research. And, most ofthe other postings on this site do zero research
I do stand on my own 2 feet as you can see from my other postings.
You take care of your veiwpoints and I'll take care of mine
LOL LOL

Atlanta, GA

#16 Jun 13, 2013
Bubba, my comment was made based on your postings.....

And research is only as good as the source. If you are truly objective, you should be able to recognize that most sources are promoting an agenda, be it from the left side of the aisle or the right.

Just because someone posts something that we would like to believe is true, because it coincides with how we feel, doesn't make it so.

The hardest thing for you or me to determine, is who is telling us the truth and who is not. I'm afraid Bubba, we both are being hoodwinked. A lot.

The hardest thing for me to accept, is that I no longer trust either party. Neither one has the best interest of the people they are elected to represent at heart. Sad.
bubba131

Kingsland, GA

#17 Jun 13, 2013
LOL LOL wrote:
Bubba, my comment was made based on your postings.....
And research is only as good as the source. If you are truly objective, you should be able to recognize that most sources are promoting an agenda, be it from the left side of the aisle or the right.
Just because someone posts something that we would like to believe is true, because it coincides with how we feel, doesn't make it so.
The hardest thing for you or me to determine, is who is telling us the truth and who is not. I'm afraid Bubba, we both are being hoodwinked. A lot.
The hardest thing for me to accept, is that I no longer trust either party. Neither one has the best interest of the people they are elected to represent at heart. Sad.
Yes I agree it is sad for the nation. Politics has changed for the worse in the last 20-25 years.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#18 Jun 13, 2013
LOL LOL wrote:
Bubba, my comment was made based on your postings.....
And research is only as good as the source. If you are truly objective, you should be able to recognize that most sources are promoting an agenda, be it from the left side of the aisle or the right.
Just because someone posts something that we would like to believe is true, because it coincides with how we feel, doesn't make it so.
The hardest thing for you or me to determine, is who is telling us the truth and who is not. I'm afraid Bubba, we both are being hoodwinked. A lot.
The hardest thing for me to accept, is that I no longer trust either party. Neither one has the best interest of the people they are elected to represent at heart. Sad.
In the interest of full disclosure so that there are not any misunderstandings, I will briefly lay out my political and philosophical biases.

1) I believe in small, strictly limited, constitutional government. Unless the Constitution explicitly says that it is a function of the Federal Government, then the Federal Government should stay out. Most of the functions of the Federal Government should be turned over to the states, such as Agriculture, Education, Housing & Urban Development, Health & Human Services, EPA, Transportation, etc. Just because something should be done it doesn't mean that the Federal Government should be the one to do it. Where there are legitimate Federal issues, they can be handled by small groups under one of the other Cabinet Departments.
2) I believe that government functions should be pushed down to the lowest level possible. Example, States deal with roads and not the Feds. Localities deal with schools and not the state.
3) I believe in a strong national defense because there is evil in the world and it is one of the few unambiguous duties of the Federal Government.
4) I believe in minimal taxation necessary to carry on the strictly limited government. Any government worth taxing people for should be paid for at the same tax rate. This prevents people from voting for services that others will be taxed to provide.
5) I believe the Birthright citizenship should be limited to ONLY those born of at least one US citizen at the time of their birth.
6) I believe in open, legal immigration. If you came here illegally, you should be returned to your native country and go through the legal process. Do we really want people here that think so little of our laws that they would ignore them?
7) I believe in a social safety net, not a hammock. It is your duty to take care of yourself and your family, not Joe Taxpayer. Poor life decisions should be painful. It will prevent you from doing them again and serve as an example to others around you.
8) The First Amendment guarantees Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion. You have a right to speak, you do not have a right to be heard. The only way you can preserve your rights is to defend the Rights of those you don't like. You may not like the 2nd Amendment but if you don't defend it for others you have no expectation that others will defend your rights for you. If you think the Constitution should be changed, fine. There is a process for that. Until then, it's the law.

I wonder if any of our liberal brethren will openly and honestly lay out their philosophies.
LonePalm Sux

Saint Marys, GA

#19 Jun 13, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
<quoted text>

5) I believe the Birthright citizenship should be limited to ONLY those born of at least one US citizen at the time of their birth.
So, um, Asshat, care to explain your position on the President? I mean, he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American citizen mother, right? Even by your convoluted-ass illogic, he's an American, even if in your Bizarro world he was born somewhere other than the US.

You really need a hobby, dude.

Asshat.
Libertarian

Saint Marys, GA

#21 Jun 13, 2013
LonePalm Sux wrote:
<quoted text>
So, um, Asshat, care to explain your position on the President? I mean, he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American citizen mother, right? Even by your convoluted-ass illogic, he's an American, even if in your Bizarro world he was born somewhere other than the US.
You really need a hobby, dude.
Asshat.
You got it wrong dude. LonePalm brings ideas, you on the other hand bring nothing but stupidity and hatred. I hope your mother catches you soon and beats the shit out of you. You little prick.
LonePalm Sux

Saint Marys, GA

#22 Jun 13, 2013
Internet horsesh!t ain't ideas, asshat.

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