More guns for everyone? Sure, why not?

More guns for everyone? Sure, why not?

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Since: Jan 13

Camden County, GA

#1 May 20, 2013
Still not much new here folks. Guns continue to kill our family and friends at an alarming rate. Still too many guns in homes with children. Still too many guns in our neighborhoods and communities. Still too many states with weak gun laws (like Georgia).

Please support politicians that support strengthening the nations gun safety laws. Below is just "some" of the carnage I found from the past week or so:

Lake City, FL. 4 YO shoots and kills 11 YO sibling.

Eatonton, GA. 28 YO concealed carry nut places .38 on top of car and drives off. Fortunately gun found by honest citizen. Hopefully it will be melted down and not returned.

Denton, TX. 8 YO kills 5 YO brother. Patriot gun owners home at time of shooting.

Onalaska, WI. 24 YO concealed carry nut fired .45 in his dashboard while at Gander Mountain parking lot.

Salem, OR. 24 YO patriot shoots sister in the leg while unloading gun.

Iowa City, IA. 61 YO "responsible gun owner" pulls gun on 12 YO boy looking for lawn mowing work.

Good Hope, GA. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" shoots friend in hand while cleaning 9mm.

Soldotna, AK. 16 YO shoots self in leg.

San Francisco, CA. "Responsible gun owner" wraps pistol in aluminum foil for sneaking through X-ray machine. Fail.

Boise, ID. 23 YO "responsible gun owner" male kills relative during "family gathering."

Bristol, TN. 25 YO "responsible gun owner" male patriot shoots .45 into neighbor's apartment.

Chatsworth, GA. "Responsible gun owner" male shoots dog for being on his yard.

St. Petersburg, FL. Concealed carry nut sets purse down at Starbucks shoots friend in leg.

Albany, GA. 18 YO male shoots 19 YO brother.

Eugene, OR. "Responsible gun owner" patriot arrested after neighbor complains of gunshots. Police find 39 bullet holes in ceiling and multiple guns.

Soldotna, AK. 23 YO man shoots self and friend while disassembling .45 cal in car.

Amarillo, TX. 6 YO shoots self in abdomen while "responsible gun owners" patriots at home.

Tullahoma, TN. 26 YO dad shoots 13 month old girl while cleaning 9mm.

Albuquerque, NM. "Responsible gun owner" shoots into the air. Bullet finds 74 YO woman on her way to church. She lived.

Wilkes-Barre, PA. 3 YO shot in hand. No "responsible gun owners" fessing up - yet.

Santa Rosa, CA. 27 YO shoots 25 YO brother in the leg and unloads rest of clip into the air.

Charleston, WV. 13 YO boy shot at home. Police lied to about location of shooting.

Jupiter, FL. Male patriot concealed carry nut shoots self while bowling. Yea, that's what we need, more guns.

Aurora, CO. Student riding home with off-duty security guard shot when driver placed gun in glove box.

Lehigh, IA. 33 YO man unloading gun shoots self in hand.

Beaverton, OR. Neighbor calls police re bullet hole in wall and loud bang. Neighbor (i.e., responsible gun owner) says did not know gun actually fired.

Stanley, WI. 42 YO man shoots self in neck. Another "accidental" discharge.

Houston, TX. 15 YO teen shot dead while out driving with four other teens.

Gravette, AR. Man shoots self while trying to hide stolen gun. Blames home invasion. SWAT called out, schools locked down, etc.

Simpsonville, SC. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" male "accidentally" fires round into neighbor's apartment. Since the neighbor did not complain, shooter went off to work.

Bossier City, LA. 13-year-old finds the patriot's family gun, accidentally shoots 11-year-old.

Roseburg, OR. 20 YO takes 49 YO uncle to the range. Shoots uncle in stomach.

Charlotte, NC. Off-duty police detective shoots himself at the movie theater. Trained. Educated.

Tuscon, AZ. Two 16 YO's out with a gun for a walk. One teen shoots other in the head.

Memphis, TN. TSA finds two loaded guns in carry-on's. Ten so far this year found in "responsible gun owners" bags.

Pontiac, MI. Teen shoots 17 YO girlfriend with a headshot.

Federal Heights, CO. Young patriot wife buys assault rifle, couple day's later trips and kills herself with a headshot. Buy more guns they say.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#2 May 20, 2013
Clearly, NRA volunteers should teach mandatory gun safety classes to all 6th graders in America. Graduating seniors should be required to take a gun safety test and be issued a concealed carry permit along with their diploma on graduation night.

Sending your graduate of to college? Don't send them unarmed and helpless.

Demand that your state allow licensed concealed carry on campus.

An armed society is a polite society.
anon

Lawrenceville, GA

#3 May 20, 2013
Camden Vet wrote:
Still not much new here folks. Guns continue to kill our family and friends at an alarming rate. Still too many guns in homes with children. Still too many guns in our neighborhoods and communities. Still too many states with weak gun laws (like Georgia).
Please support politicians that support strengthening the nations gun safety laws. Below is just "some" of the carnage I found from the past week or so:
Lake City, FL. 4 YO shoots and kills 11 YO sibling.
Eatonton, GA. 28 YO concealed carry nut places .38 on top of car and drives off. Fortunately gun found by honest citizen. Hopefully it will be melted down and not returned.
Denton, TX. 8 YO kills 5 YO brother. Patriot gun owners home at time of shooting.
Onalaska, WI. 24 YO concealed carry nut fired .45 in his dashboard while at Gander Mountain parking lot.
Salem, OR. 24 YO patriot shoots sister in the leg while unloading gun.
Iowa City, IA. 61 YO "responsible gun owner" pulls gun on 12 YO boy looking for lawn mowing work.
Good Hope, GA. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" shoots friend in hand while cleaning 9mm.
Soldotna, AK. 16 YO shoots self in leg.
San Francisco, CA. "Responsible gun owner" wraps pistol in aluminum foil for sneaking through X-ray machine. Fail.
Boise, ID. 23 YO "responsible gun owner" male kills relative during "family gathering."
Bristol, TN. 25 YO "responsible gun owner" male patriot shoots .45 into neighbor's apartment.
Chatsworth, GA. "Responsible gun owner" male shoots dog for being on his yard.
St. Petersburg, FL. Concealed carry nut sets purse down at Starbucks shoots friend in leg.
Albany, GA. 18 YO male shoots 19 YO brother.
Eugene, OR. "Responsible gun owner" patriot arrested after neighbor complains of gunshots. Police find 39 bullet holes in ceiling and multiple guns.
Soldotna, AK. 23 YO man shoots self and friend while disassembling .45 cal in car.
Amarillo, TX. 6 YO shoots self in abdomen while "responsible gun owners" patriots at home.
Tullahoma, TN. 26 YO dad shoots 13 month old girl while cleaning 9mm.
Albuquerque, NM. "Responsible gun owner" shoots into the air. Bullet finds 74 YO woman on her way to church. She lived.
Wilkes-Barre, PA. 3 YO shot in hand. No "responsible gun owners" fessing up - yet.
Santa Rosa, CA. 27 YO shoots 25 YO brother in the leg and unloads rest of clip into the air.
Charleston, WV. 13 YO boy shot at home. Police lied to about location of shooting.
Jupiter, FL. Male patriot concealed carry nut shoots self while bowling. Yea, that's what we need, more guns.
Aurora, CO. Student riding home with off-duty security guard shot when driver placed gun in glove box.
Lehigh, IA. 33 YO man unloading gun shoots self in hand.
Beaverton, OR. Neighbor calls police re bullet hole in wall and loud bang. Neighbor (i.e., responsible gun owner) says did not know gun actually fired.
Stanley, WI. 42 YO man shoots self in neck. Another "accidental" discharge.
Houston, TX. 15 YO teen shot dead while out driving with four other teens.
Gravette, AR. Man shoots self while trying to hide stolen gun. Blames home invasion. SWAT called out, schools locked down, etc.
Simpsonville, SC. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" male "accidentally" fires round into neighbor's apartment. Since the neighbor did not complain, shooter went off to work.
Bossier City, LA. 13-year-old finds the patriot's family gun, accidentally shoots 11-year-old.
Roseburg, OR. 20 YO takes 49 YO uncle to the range. Shoots uncle in stomach.
Charlotte, NC. Off-duty police detective shoots himself at the movie theater. Trained. Educated.
Tuscon, AZ. Two 16 YO's out with a gun for a walk. One teen shoots other in the head.
Memphis, TN. TSA finds two loaded guns in carry-on's. Ten so far this year found in "responsible gun owners" bags.
Pontiac, MI. Teen shoots 17 YO girlfriend with a headshot.
Federal Heights, CO. Young patriot wife buys assault rifle, couple day's later trips and kills herself with a headshot. Buy more guns they say.
Yawn.
Bob

Kingsland, GA

#5 May 20, 2013
hey mr greatness

you can't spell worth a s*hit
really

Morganton, GA

#6 May 20, 2013
It seems to me that we should have a test for future parents to see if they are intelligent enoigh not to get their kids killed

Since: May 13

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#7 May 20, 2013
I notice you used the term "responsible gun owner" numerous times. Tell us, was that a direct quote, or did you insert the term?

I ask this because, by virtue of their actions, none of those listed would meet the definition of a responsible gun owner.

See, that's the problem with "responsible gun owners". You rarely read about them. They don't shoot their neighbors, kids, co-workers, relatives, or themselves. Why, you ask? Simple...they are responsible gun owners.

You don't read about them because they understand the enormous responsibility that comes with possessing a firearm. Whether it's for hunting, sport, or self-defense, they understand what it takes to be a "responsible gun owner". Thus, you very rarely read about them.

When you do, it is almost inevitably a situation where, but for the presence of that responsible gun owner, serious harm or death would have resulted to an innocent party, or parties.

Obviously, I own guns. I have no issue with strict purchase requirements. I support long-term mandatory, no parole, prison sentences for any crime commited by use of a firearm. I support a mandatory death penalty for any violent crime in which a firearm was used.

I am, you see, a responsible gun owner, and unlike some, I am well aware of the fact that it is the individual...not the gun...that results in the carnage you use as your argument against guns.

God forbid, but if you ever do read about me, it will be because some thug who preys on the innocent did not realize I was a "responsible gun owner"...until it was too late to do them any good.

By your logic, cars would have been outlawed years ago. If it's "senseless deaths at the hand of irresponsible owners" that troubles you, then by all means, run the numbers on automotive fatalities where one or more drivers were clearly at fault.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed in that you choose to attack the instrument rather then the intent and/or behavior of the individual behind it.

Let's put the blame squarely where it lies, huh?
Tom

Kingsland, GA

#8 May 20, 2013
Camden Vet wrote:
BLa Bla Bla.......
Denton, TX. 8 YO kills 5 YO brother. Patriot gun owners home at time of shooting.
Onalaska, WI. 24 YO concealed carry nut fired .45 in his dashboard while at Gander Mountain parking lot.
Salem, OR. 24 YO patriot shoots sister in the leg while unloading gun.
Iowa City, IA. 61 YO "responsible gun owner" pulls gun on 12 YO boy looking for lawn mowing work.
Good Hope, GA. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" shoots friend in hand while cleaning 9mm.
Soldotna, AK. 16 YO shoots self in leg.
San Francisco, CA. "Responsible gun owner" wraps pistol in aluminum foil for sneaking through X-ray machine. Fail.
Boise, ID. 23 YO "responsible gun owner" male kills relative during "family gathering."
Bristol, TN. 25 YO "responsible gun owner" male patriot shoots .45 into neighbor's apartment.
Chatsworth, GA. "Responsible gun owner" male shoots dog for being on his yard.
St. Petersburg, FL. Concealed carry nut sets purse down at Starbucks shoots friend in leg.
Albany, GA. 18 YO male shoots 19 YO brother.
Eugene, OR. "Responsible gun owner" patriot arrested after neighbor complains of gunshots. Police find 39 bullet holes in ceiling and multiple guns.
Soldotna, AK. 23 YO man shoots self and friend while disassembling .45 cal in car.
Amarillo, TX. 6 YO shoots self in abdomen while "responsible gun owners" patriots at home.
Tullahoma, TN. 26 YO dad shoots 13 month old girl while cleaning 9mm.
Albuquerque, NM. "Responsible gun owner" shoots into the air. Bullet finds 74 YO woman on her way to church. She lived.
Wilkes-Barre, PA. 3 YO shot in hand. No "responsible gun owners" fessing up - yet.
Santa Rosa, CA. 27 YO shoots 25 YO brother in the leg and unloads rest of clip into the air.
Charleston, WV. 13 YO boy shot at home. Police lied to about location of shooting.
Jupiter, FL. Male patriot concealed carry nut shoots self while bowling. Yea, that's what we need, more guns.
Aurora, CO. Student riding home with off-duty security guard shot when driver placed gun in glove box.
Lehigh, IA. 33 YO man unloading gun shoots self in hand.
Beaverton, OR. Neighbor calls police re bullet hole in wall and loud bang. Neighbor (i.e., responsible gun owner) says did not know gun actually fired.
Stanley, WI. 42 YO man shoots self in neck. Another "accidental" discharge.
Houston, TX. 15 YO teen shot dead while out driving with four other teens.
Gravette, AR. Man shoots self while trying to hide stolen gun. Blames home invasion. SWAT called out, schools locked down, etc.
Simpsonville, SC. 24 YO "responsible gun owner" male "accidentally" fires round into neighbor's apartment. Since the neighbor did not complain, shooter went off to work.
Bossier City, LA. 13-year-old finds the patriot's family gun, accidentally shoots 11-year-old.
Roseburg, OR. 20 YO takes 49 YO uncle to the range. Shoots uncle in stomach.
Charlotte, NC. Off-duty police detective shoots himself at the movie theater. Trained. Educated.
Tuscon, AZ. Two 16 YO's out with a gun for a walk. One teen shoots other in the head.
Memphis, TN. TSA finds two loaded guns in carry-on's. Ten so far this year found in "responsible gun owners" bags.
Pontiac, MI. Teen shoots 17 YO girlfriend with a headshot.
Federal Heights, CO. Young patriot wife buys assault rifle, couple day's later trips and kills herself with a headshot. Buy more guns they say.
I guess the second amendment means nothing to you. Really to satisfy that, we should be able to have all the fancy stuff. The second amendment was included to protect the people against a tyrannical government. I really do not care about your graphical justification. Why not move to a more socialistic country? Every time you get on your soapbox, I am more inclined to believe that you are just a liberal with a fear of getting your ass shot because you are on the dole.
really

Morganton, GA

#9 May 20, 2013
Anon

Kingsland, GA

#10 May 20, 2013
GreyWolf676 wrote:
I notice you used the term "responsible gun owner" numerous times. Tell us, was that a direct quote, or did you insert the term?
I ask this because, by virtue of their actions, none of those listed would meet the definition of a responsible gun owner.
See, that's the problem with "responsible gun owners". You rarely read about them. They don't shoot their neighbors, kids, co-workers, relatives, or themselves. Why, you ask? Simple...they are responsible gun owners.
You don't read about them because they understand the enormous responsibility that comes with possessing a firearm. Whether it's for hunting, sport, or self-defense, they understand what it takes to be a "responsible gun owner". Thus, you very rarely read about them.
When you do, it is almost inevitably a situation where, but for the presence of that responsible gun owner, serious harm or death would have resulted to an innocent party, or parties.
Obviously, I own guns. I have no issue with strict purchase requirements. I support long-term mandatory, no parole, prison sentences for any crime commited by use of a firearm. I support a mandatory death penalty for any violent crime in which a firearm was used.
I am, you see, a responsible gun owner, and unlike some, I am well aware of the fact that it is the individual...not the gun...that results in the carnage you use as your argument against guns.
God forbid, but if you ever do read about me, it will be because some thug who preys on the innocent did not realize I was a "responsible gun owner"...until it was too late to do them any good.
By your logic, cars would have been outlawed years ago. If it's "senseless deaths at the hand of irresponsible owners" that troubles you, then by all means, run the numbers on automotive fatalities where one or more drivers were clearly at fault.
Your argument is fundamentally flawed in that you choose to attack the instrument rather then the intent and/or behavior of the individual behind it.
Let's put the blame squarely where it lies, huh?
Hey, Grey, you have some very good points. Irresponsible gun owners are the problem. How do we keep guns out of their hands while respecting the right of us who are responsible to own them?
That, it seems to me, is the question that divides us.
Jill

Kingsland, GA

#11 May 21, 2013
GreyWolf676 wrote:
I am, you see, a responsible gun owner, and unlike some, I am well aware of the fact that it is the individual...not the gun...that results in the carnage you use as your argument against guns.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed in that you choose to attack the instrument rather then the intent and/or behavior of the individual behind it.

Let's put the blame squarely where it lies, huh?
Greywolf: I've cut your argument down to three points, the rest was rambling.

First of all, you are NOT a responsible gun owner or good citizen if you do not stand up and demand guns be locked in homes with children living or visiting. Everyone of the children above would be alive if we had that one single law.

Second, that's bull about "attacking the instrument" not the individual behind it. It was GUNS AND BULLETS in every case that killed. Had they not be around and/or available, those people would still be alive.

Third, assigning blame. See above. GUNS AND BULLETS KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. No guns, no deaths, it's not a hard concept. You can't shoot yourself without a gun in your hands. Like Vet says, too many guns in homes and our communities. They get misused, found, stolen, lost and end up KILLING people. Period. Wake up. Help out. You and those like you are the problem. I'd say the NRA is the problem too. The Republican Party is the problem also. Eliminate those three (or have them act like adults) and we could pass some reasonable gun laws to make sure these things don't keep on happening week after week after week.

And what's with "GreyWolf", really, really? Tom or Dick or Larry just wasn't good enough? Please.
Cluck Trent

Kingsland, GA

#12 May 21, 2013
Jill wrote:
<quoted text>
Greywolf: I've cut your argument down to three points, the rest was rambling.
First of all, you are NOT a responsible gun owner or good citizen if you do not stand up and demand guns be locked in homes with children living or visiting. Everyone of the children above would be alive if we had that one single law.
Second, that's bull about "attacking the instrument" not the individual behind it. It was GUNS AND BULLETS in every case that killed. Had they not be around and/or available, those people would still be alive.
Third, assigning blame. See above. GUNS AND BULLETS KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. No guns, no deaths, it's not a hard concept. You can't shoot yourself without a gun in your hands. Like Vet says, too many guns in homes and our communities. They get misused, found, stolen, lost and end up KILLING people. Period. Wake up. Help out. You and those like you are the problem. I'd say the NRA is the problem too. The Republican Party is the problem also. Eliminate those three (or have them act like adults) and we could pass some reasonable gun laws to make sure these things don't keep on happening week after week after week.
And what's with "GreyWolf", really, really? Tom or Dick or Larry just wasn't good enough? Please.
Are normal children in normal families the exception or the rule?
Cluck Trent

Kingsland, GA

#13 May 21, 2013
Jill wrote:
<quoted text>
Greywolf:.........he children above would be alive if we had that one single law.
Isn't that a little naive considering the laws we have?
Cluck Trent

Kingsland, GA

#14 May 21, 2013
Jill wrote:
<quoted text>
Greywolf: I've cut your argument down to three points, the rest was rambling.
Your opinion
Cluck Trent

Kingsland, GA

#15 May 21, 2013
Jill wrote:
<quoted text>
Greywolf: I've cut your argument down to three points, the rest was rambling.
First of all, you are NOT a responsible gun owner or good citizen if you do not stand up and demand guns be locked in homes with children living or visiting. Everyone of the children above would be alive if we had that one single law.
Second, that's bull about "attacking the instrument" not the individual behind it. It was GUNS AND BULLETS in every case that killed. Had they not be around and/or available, those people would still be alive.
Third, assigning blame. See above. GUNS AND BULLETS KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. No guns, no deaths, it's not a hard concept. You can't shoot yourself without a gun in your hands. Like Vet says, too many guns in homes and our communities. They get misused, found, stolen, lost and end up KILLING people. Period. Wake up. Help out. You and those like you are the problem. I'd say the NRA is the problem too. The Republican Party is the problem also. Eliminate those three (or have them act like adults) and we could pass some reasonable gun laws to make sure these things don't keep on happening week after week after week.
And what's with "GreyWolf", really, really? Tom or Dick or Larry just wasn't good enough? Please.
I've cut your argument down to one point. There needs to be another law.
Cluck Trent

Kingsland, GA

#16 May 21, 2013
Jill wrote:
<quoted text>
Greywolf: I've cut your argument down to three points, the rest was rambling.
First of all, you are NOT a responsible gun owner or good citizen if you do not stand up and demand guns be locked in homes with children living or visiting. Everyone of the children above would be alive if we had that one single law.
Second, that's bull about "attacking the instrument" not the individual behind it. It was GUNS AND BULLETS in every case that killed. Had they not be around and/or available, those people would still be alive.
Third, assigning blame. See above. GUNS AND BULLETS KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. No guns, no deaths, it's not a hard concept. You can't shoot yourself without a gun in your hands. Like Vet says, too many guns in homes and our communities. They get misused, found, stolen, lost and end up KILLING people. Period. Wake up. Help out. You and those like you are the problem. I'd say the NRA is the problem too. The Republican Party is the problem also. Eliminate those three (or have them act like adults) and we could pass some reasonable gun laws to make sure these things don't keep on happening week after week after week.
And what's with "GreyWolf", really, really? Tom or Dick or Larry just wasn't good enough? Please.
Here is my opinion: Take responsibility for yourself and your children.
Anon

Fpo, AP

#17 May 21, 2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

"Violent gun crime has dropped dramatically in the past two decades, but the majority of Americans think it's more of a problem now than ever, according to a Pew Research Center study released Tuesday."
really

Morganton, GA

#18 May 21, 2013
Everystate that has enacted a concealed carry law has had violent crime decrease.

Wonder why?
Notanon

Kingsland, GA

#19 May 21, 2013
My grandpa always said, guns are for men with substandard personal equipment packages (i.e., small penises).

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#20 May 21, 2013
Was that when he gave you an elephant gun as a high school graduation present?
Jack

Kingsland, GA

#21 May 21, 2013
Cluck Trent wrote:
<quoted text>Are normal children in normal families the exception or the rule?
"Normal children" - whatever they are - are just as curious as all other children. Kids are fascinated with guns. Parents should be required by law to keep secure, strong gun locks on every gun. Just look at all the kids killed this week alone - one darn week! Locked trigger guards would have kept everyone alive. As someone else said, it's not a hard concept to grasp. Lock up your guns.

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