Gay sailor gets support on Youtube, F...

Gay sailor gets support on Youtube, Facebook

There are 21 comments on the FOX30Online story from Aug 16, 2010, titled Gay sailor gets support on Youtube, Facebook. In it, FOX30Online reports that:

ST. MARYS, Ga. -- A sailor from Kings Bay who was let go after racy photos of his boyfriend were found on his cell phone camera says he's getting support from his co-workers and friends who want him back on the submarine despite him being openly gay.

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rodney

United States

#1 Aug 17, 2010
yeah right there is a reason what there are signs posted on lower base that say no cell phones with cameras allowed..you broke the rules your phone was conficated and the guards were checking to see if you took pictures of the sub/components you were not openly gay you were caught i as a submariner don't feel you should be allowed to come back.
anon

Inola, OK

#2 Aug 17, 2010
He got it where he wanted it.

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#3 Sep 1, 2010
I support this SOLDIER who has served our country. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! We owe him the utmost respect.

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#4 Sep 1, 2010
Jarod is handsome!
Getflushed

San Jose, CA

#5 Sep 1, 2010
Traitorous sleepers intent on disclosing Navy secrets, or impeding the military in any way should be handled more roughly than this guy was. It's instructive to recall another queer intentionally undermining the military in his handing secrets over to obvious enemies of America and putting the lives of many at risk, who is now being prosecuted. There will be increased anti-America activity specifically by queers invading the military and they should be squashed as the perverts they are.

Since: Aug 10

Kingsland, GA

#6 Sep 1, 2010
Getflushed wrote:
Traitorous sleepers intent on disclosing Navy secrets, or impeding the military in any way should be handled more roughly than this guy was. It's instructive to recall another queer intentionally undermining the military in his handing secrets over to obvious enemies of America and putting the lives of many at risk, who is now being prosecuted. There will be increased anti-America activity specifically by queers invading the military and they should be squashed as the perverts they are.
do you really think that it makes you feel like a better person by using the word "queer".
i do believe that that sailor do deserve to be put out of the military for being open about his sexuality, but i do not feel he should be persecuted for what he believes in. i am a combat vet and do believe that he should be treated with the respect for serving in the armed forces and having to hide who he is. i personally do not agree with some postions for military personal to be in if they are gay. but other i feel should be just fine.

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#7 Sep 1, 2010
soenkcin wrote:
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do you really think that it makes you feel like a better person by using the word "queer".
i do believe that that sailor do deserve to be put out of the military for being open about his sexuality, but i do not feel he should be persecuted for what he believes in. i am a combat vet and do believe that he should be treated with the respect for serving in the armed forces and having to hide who he is. i personally do not agree with some postions for military personal to be in if they are gay. but other i feel should be just fine.
The sailor originally was not open about his sexuality. They didn't ask and he didn't tell. They kicked him out because of the images of him and his boyfriend on the phone. They felt it was a violation of Don't Ask, Don't Tell despite him never telling. He never took nor had any intention of taking photos with his phone on the base. He stated in his YouTube video that the phone issue would not have been grounds for dismissal but being gay is. If they found naked pictures of him and a woman instead of another man there would have been no issue made.

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#8 Sep 1, 2010
Getflushed wrote:
Traitorous sleepers intent on disclosing Navy secrets, or impeding the military in any way should be handled more roughly than this guy was. It's instructive to recall another queer intentionally undermining the military in his handing secrets over to obvious enemies of America and putting the lives of many at risk, who is now being prosecuted. There will be increased anti-America activity specifically by queers invading the military and they should be squashed as the perverts they are.
It sounds to me like you are very ignorant on the subject of homosexuality and civil rights and have a deep hatred for them simply because they are different from you.
Snookynooky

Saint Marys, GA

#9 Sep 1, 2010
equalityboy81 wrote:
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It sounds to me like you are very ignorant on the subject of homosexuality and civil rights and have a deep hatred for them simply because they are different from you.
Take your perverted pandering somewhere else. Martin and Mitchell, two queers with secret clearances,sold out our country to the USSR in 1958/1959. Queers are a security risk because they can be blackmailed.

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#10 Sep 1, 2010
Snookynooky wrote:
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Take your perverted pandering somewhere else. Martin and Mitchell, two queers with secret clearances,sold out our country to the USSR in 1958/1959. Queers are a security risk because they can be blackmailed.
You are ignorant and bigoted. I consider the source. Prove the allegations. You stereotype people man. It's no different than racism or saying all black people like watermelon and fried chicken. I like adults, not children, so therefore I am not a pervert.
na-nu-na-nu

United States

#11 Sep 2, 2010
all of you are missing the point..he took the camera into an area that HE knew no photographic equipment was allowed..he knew if he brought it down and got caught with it it would be searched..now..there are some crazy things that go on at sea i for one am very herosexual and would like for the person bunking next to me or waiting for his turn at the shower to not "meat gaze" while i'm doing so..

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#12 Sep 2, 2010
na-nu-na-nu wrote:
all of you are missing the point..he took the camera into an area that HE knew no photographic equipment was allowed..he knew if he brought it down and got caught with it it would be searched..now..there are some crazy things that go on at sea i for one am very herosexual and would like for the person bunking next to me or waiting for his turn at the shower to not "meat gaze" while i'm doing so..
Well I'm gay and if a girl checked me out I wouldn't let it bother me. I don't let such trivial matters in life concern me. Looking and touching are different things. People in the military have to deal with some vicious people. They seem pretty wimpy if they get all upset over gay people being near them. Gays exist in the military and people know it. People know for a fact some are gay even though they don't confirm it so I don't see how finding the pictures is going to make soldiers uncomfortable if they didn't care that he was gay to begin with. If you are very heterosexual as you say then you should be secure in your sexuality. Those who have no insecurities about their sexuality don't feel the need to prove their masculinity or heterosexuality. Thanks for telling us all you are straight. I don't feel the need to go around telling everyone I'm gay, if they ask I won't lie, but bringing my sexuality up now is relevant to the subject. I don't see what you being straight really has to do with anything. Being gay doesn't make one a rapist so I don't think you'd have to worry about a gay person making the moves on you. I don't think gay people are that desperate. We like guys who reciprocate. We don't chase after straight guys we can't have.

No one is saying the dude was right to carry the cellphone camera but in regular circumstances it would not justify a discharge especially when he had not taken any photos of the submarine nor had any intention to do so. He admitted his mistake but speaks the truth when he said he is being accused of violating Don't Ask, Don't Tell. They didn't ask and he didn't tell. I don't see how he violated anything. It's not like he went around showing a gay porn of him and his boyfriend to everyone on base. If the cellphone pics were of him and a naked woman nothing would have been said.

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#13 Sep 2, 2010
He is being discharged for being gay, NOT for bringing the cellphone on base. That can be backed up by the news. It seems people on here are spreading lies trying to cover up the truth because they don't want it to be a gay rights issue.
na-nu-na-nu

United States

#14 Sep 3, 2010
i work there and IF the camera phone wasn't brought down there it would not have been conficated..he know this would happen if caught if he's stupid enough to pull an unauthorized phone out in full view of security than he deserves the punishment..durning the investigation of the offense the pictures were found..so DADT does apply taking the pic's and keeping them on the phone is just like marching in a rainbow parade and being captured on television. get to know the rules before you comment about some thing and this is not from the news, hersay this is how the events happened and no amount of publicity he it trying to drum up will change it... get over it

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#15 Sep 3, 2010
I would think you should be more tolerate of your fellow American citizens if you are in the military. Aren't we all supposed to be equal? Apparently all Americans aren't treated that way. People are singled out and discriminated against because they were born gay.

Like I said in the related thread:

It a shame we still live in a society that blatantly discriminates against those who are different/a minority. Does being gay make one less of a human being or inferior to straight people in the same manner that whites were once considered superior to blacks? It's 2010, not 1910!

If the cellphone pics were of a naked woman nothing would have been said. It's biased and double standard, legal or not, there is no way of rebutting that fact.
KJV

Norridgewock, ME

#16 Sep 6, 2010
for all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose. Romans 8;28

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#17 Sep 6, 2010
KJV wrote:
for all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose. Romans 8;28
I don't think God would be calling for his discharge from the Navy. If He would would he also apply the same judgement to a man who had naked pictures of his wife on his cellphone or is it just homosexuals that get judged by God more harshly in everything they do?
Broke Rule

AOL

#18 Sep 7, 2010
Regards of his sexual preference, he broke a rule on the base. A rule for security of all on base, not just him. Who cares if he is gay? I am sick of the gays blaming their problems on the fact they are gay and not acting like an adult and expecting responsibility for his actions. I respect everyone who has served our country, but he voliated a security issue. Stop trying to convince everyone that it was because he is gay. Also, Equalityboy, get over yourself. Sounds like you are having issues with your own sexuality....oh yeah...I AM STRAIGHT>>>yes, big deal I know, but tired of people proclaiming their color, race, or sexuality to make a point or to sway the reader to their way of thinking. God Bless America!

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#19 Sep 7, 2010
Broke Rule wrote:
Regards of his sexual preference, he broke a rule on the base. A rule for security of all on base, not just him. Who cares if he is gay? I am sick of the gays blaming their problems on the fact they are gay and not acting like an adult and expecting responsibility for his actions. I respect everyone who has served our country, but he voliated a security issue. Stop trying to convince everyone that it was because he is gay. Also, Equalityboy, get over yourself. Sounds like you are having issues with your own sexuality....oh yeah...I AM STRAIGHT>>>yes, big deal I know, but tired of people proclaiming their color, race, or sexuality to make a point or to sway the reader to their way of thinking. God Bless America!
I don't have any issues with my sexuality. I'm completely secure in mine unlike the straight guys who worry sick that some gay guy might be checking him out in the shower. I'm certain a straight man is completely capable of defending himself against unwanted sexual advances that are extremely rare. Straight men proclaim they sexual orientation (I don't use the word preference) all the time. I think even more so than gay people since gays are forced to remain closeted in many areas of their life due to bigotry.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm going by what was in the news and what the sailor said. He is being discharged for violatinng Don't Ask, Don't Tell. They said he would not have been discharged for the cellphone issue. I'm stating the facts not making this a gay issue but of course you are going to think I am wrong in everything I say because I support his side of the issue.
swisher sweet

United States

#20 Sep 7, 2010
NSA. I will decorate your bunk room in exchange for a pearl neckless.

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