Democracy And The Good Life In a Company Town

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Muck Raker

Calhoun City, MS

#1 Jan 17, 2011
You want to know just how corrupt St Marys is and has been. Must reading: "Democracy and The Good Life In a Company Town," by Peter Schuck and Harrison Wellford, Harpers 1972, Google www.harpers.org/archive/1972/05/0022467 . This is neither the beginning nor the end. Lots more buried bodies in St Marys; some lying on top of the ground. Look around and educate yourselve.

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sucks2bJ

Madison, WI

#2 Jan 17, 2011
Muck Raker wrote:
You want to know just how corrupt St Marys is and has been. Must reading: "Democracy and The Good Life In a Company Town," by Peter Schuck and Harrison Wellford, Harpers 1972, Google www.harpers.org/archive/1972/05/0022467 . This is neither the beginning nor the end. Lots more buried bodies in St Marys; some lying on top of the ground. Look around and educate yourselve.
Linkie no workie for me.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#3 Jan 17, 2011
Someone gave me a hard copy about a year after I moved here. Must reading for anyone who wants to understand the true depth of the darkness of Camden GOB politics.

My guess is the St. Marys library would have a copy.
anon

Calhoun City, MS

#4 Jan 17, 2011
sucks2bJ wrote:
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Linkie no workie for me.
I see your problem, you're stupid.
Harpers Helper

Calhoun City, MS

#5 Jan 17, 2011
St Marys is an intricate web of economic and financial relationships where political loyalty is the sine qua nom. The main tool of the "ruling elites" and special interest are ignored conflicts of interest. In order to preserve its monopoly on political power the "elites" actively discourages new employers from location into the area. Yet St Marys boasts a municipal airport that would be the envy of many larger towns. The St Marys Chamber of Commerce is completely inactive.

St Marys citizens are it's indentured servants fleeced and controlled by high and unequal property tax and high water and sewer fees. St Marys citizens live under a government where checks and balances vital to democracy havae been overwhelmed by centralized economic power. The local political machine maintains power via its agents in govenment and via tax agreements between the city and the political machine.

Agents of the ploitical machine may include members of Council or tax assessors who "serve" without a conscience. Taxation policy and politics run hand in hand. Special tax breaks for the "politically powerful" are the rule rather than the exception.
"Elites" under no uncertian terms will let you know that it's no body else's business how they run "their " town.

The financial power has shifted its focus from the mill culture but the political machine remains intact. The financial focus is now on the newly annexed sub-divisions where the sheep, "financial targets of oportunity," are sheared via high property tax and high water and sewer fees. Note - the special tax breaks for the wealthy large land owners and protected special interest remain intact.

To live in St Marys one must give up cherished political and legal freedoms. The city is run on civic pride born of paternalism.

The results are demoralized citizaens ruled by mistrust, fear dispair and resignation. Why fight when the game is rigged.

Read the article the above is just a summary.

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Just So You Know

Saint Marys, GA

#6 Jan 17, 2011
Just clicked on the link, got the error message "The page you requested could not be found on our server. An email has been sent to the webmaster regarding the problem."

Rats ! I really wanted to read the entire article !
anon

Norridgewock, ME

#7 Jan 17, 2011
Harpers Helper wrote:
St Marys is an intricate web of economic and financial relationships where political loyalty is the sine qua nom. The main tool of the "ruling elites" and special interest are ignored conflicts of interest. In order to preserve its monopoly on political power the "elites" actively discourages new employers from location into the area. Yet St Marys boasts a municipal airport that would be the envy of many larger towns. The St Marys Chamber of Commerce is completely inactive.
St Marys citizens are it's indentured servants fleeced and controlled by high and unequal property tax and high water and sewer fees. St Marys citizens live under a government where checks and balances vital to democracy havae been overwhelmed by centralized economic power. The local political machine maintains power via its agents in govenment and via tax agreements between the city and the political machine.
Agents of the ploitical machine may include members of Council or tax assessors who "serve" without a conscience. Taxation policy and politics run hand in hand. Special tax breaks for the "politically powerful" are the rule rather than the exception.
"Elites" under no uncertian terms will let you know that it's no body else's business how they run "their " town.
The financial power has shifted its focus from the mill culture but the political machine remains intact. The financial focus is now on the newly annexed sub-divisions where the sheep, "financial targets of oportunity," are sheared via high property tax and high water and sewer fees. Note - the special tax breaks for the wealthy large land owners and protected special interest remain intact.
To live in St Marys one must give up cherished political and legal freedoms. The city is run on civic pride born of paternalism.
The results are demoralized citizaens ruled by mistrust, fear dispair and resignation. Why fight when the game is rigged.
Read the article the above is just a summary.
Another SSS.
Watching and Smiling

San Francisco, CA

#8 Jan 17, 2011
Harpers Helper wrote:
St Marys is an intricate web of economic and financial relationships where political loyalty is the sine qua nom. The main tool of the "ruling elites" and special interest are ignored conflicts of interest. In order to preserve its monopoly on political power the "elites" actively discourages new employers from location into the area. Yet St Marys boasts a municipal airport that would be the envy of many larger towns. The St Marys Chamber of Commerce is completely inactive.
St Marys citizens are it's indentured servants fleeced and controlled by high and unequal property tax and high water and sewer fees. St Marys citizens live under a government where checks and balances vital to democracy havae been overwhelmed by centralized economic power. The local political machine maintains power via its agents in govenment and via tax agreements between the city and the political machine.
Agents of the ploitical machine may include members of Council or tax assessors who "serve" without a conscience. Taxation policy and politics run hand in hand. Special tax breaks for the "politically powerful" are the rule rather than the exception.
"Elites" under no uncertian terms will let you know that it's no body else's business how they run "their " town.
The financial power has shifted its focus from the mill culture but the political machine remains intact. The financial focus is now on the newly annexed sub-divisions where the sheep, "financial targets of oportunity," are sheared via high property tax and high water and sewer fees. Note - the special tax breaks for the wealthy large land owners and protected special interest remain intact.
To live in St Marys one must give up cherished political and legal freedoms. The city is run on civic pride born of paternalism.
The results are demoralized citizaens ruled by mistrust, fear dispair and resignation. Why fight when the game is rigged.
Read the article the above is just a summary.
Interesting. Who, exactly, do you consider "the elites"?
Sissy

Calhoun City, MS

#9 Jan 17, 2011
Just So You Know wrote:
Just clicked on the link, got the error message "The page you requested could not be found on our server. An email has been sent to the webmaster regarding the problem."
Rats ! I really wanted to read the entire article !
Google: Harpers Magazine, archives. You can suscribe to the magazine and have access to their monthly copies all the way back to 1849!!! Quite a bargain. After you become a member it is easy
to navigate to the May, 1972 edition.
Woodworm

Calhoun City, MS

#10 Jan 17, 2011
Watching and Smiling wrote:
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Interesting. Who, exactly, do you consider "the elites"?
Better question: who are their agents, moles and lackeys holding elected and appointed key jobs. Read the article, it will answer a lot of your questions. Then do your own research to bring yourself up to date. Big clue: follow the money.
Native Born

Calhoun City, MS

#11 Jan 19, 2011
Harpers Helper wrote:
St Marys is an intricate web of economic and financial relationships where political loyalty is the sine qua nom. The main tool of the "ruling elites" and special interest are ignored conflicts of interest. In order to preserve its monopoly on political power the "elites" actively discourages new employers from location into the area. Yet St Marys boasts a municipal airport that would be the envy of many larger towns. The St Marys Chamber of Commerce is completely inactive.
St Marys citizens are it's indentured servants fleeced and controlled by high and unequal property tax and high water and sewer fees. St Marys citizens live under a government where checks and balances vital to democracy havae been overwhelmed by centralized economic power. The local political machine maintains power via its agents in govenment and via tax agreements between the city and the political machine.
Agents of the ploitical machine may include members of Council or tax assessors who "serve" without a conscience. Taxation policy and politics run hand in hand. Special tax breaks for the "politically powerful" are the rule rather than the exception.
"Elites" under no uncertian terms will let you know that it's no body else's business how they run "their " town.
The financial power has shifted its focus from the mill culture but the political machine remains intact. The financial focus is now on the newly annexed sub-divisions where the sheep, "financial targets of oportunity," are sheared via high property tax and high water and sewer fees. Note - the special tax breaks for the wealthy large land owners and protected special interest remain intact.
To live in St Marys one must give up cherished political and legal freedoms. The city is run on civic pride born of paternalism.
The results are demoralized citizaens ruled by mistrust, fear dispair and resignation. Why fight when the game is rigged.
Read the article the above is just a summary.
If you don't like it, I95 runs both ways.
Marie A

Calhoun City, MS

#12 Jan 19, 2011
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Old Timer

Kingsland, GA

#13 Jan 29, 2013
This is for you Jethro. Goggle Hapers Magazine, 1972, "Democracy and the good life in a company town"

Read that and then tell me that corruption in Camden County is new and brought by the newcomer yankees. Chuck Trader raised no ones water and sewer rates. St Marys' high water/sewer rates today are the result of decisions made during the 1980's and 1990's.

The City Councils from late 1970's to mid/late 1990's doomed this town by allowing themselves to be dominated by the real estate cartel. During this periods most elected officials were nothing more than ignorant boobs doing the bidding of the corrupt political machine. The fools over extended and over annexed then they ran water and sewer lines to every ill concieved sub division the land speculators and crooked developers could dream up. The foolish City Councils borrowed tens of millions of dollars and financed their folly with bonds issued by Wall Street banks in New York.

St Marys's current problems were caused directy by ill concieved over development by greedy, foolish and ignorant local officials and their partners in crime: land speculators and devolopers. The entire south end of the county was raped by these people. Chuck Trader and the present St Marys city council had nothing to do with the cause or the result.

Look around you. Many of these locals are still here slapping you on the back at the meet, eat and greet clubs around town. Many of the developers and land speculators have move on to other ignorant little towns to rape. Some are back in Atlanta, Orlando or prison.
Old Timer

Kingsland, GA

#14 Jan 29, 2013
That should read Harpers.
Educated Yankee

Kingsland, GA

#15 Jan 29, 2013
Native Born wrote:
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If you don't like it, I95 runs both ways.
Pick your direction, there is nothing for you here now. A high school education is required to get a job on base.
wow

Kingsland, GA

#16 Jan 29, 2013
I think I might be a part of the Cartel and didn't even know it. Come to think of it, I don't think most of my friends know it either. Scary.
Really

United States

#17 Jan 30, 2013
Harpers Helper wrote:
St Marys is an intricate web of economic and financial relationships where political loyalty is the sine qua nom. The main tool of the "ruling elites" and special interest are ignored conflicts of interest. In order to preserve its monopoly on political power the "elites" actively discourages new employers from location into the area. Yet St Marys boasts a municipal airport that would be the envy of many larger towns. The St Marys Chamber of Commerce is completely inactive.
St Marys citizens are it's indentured servants fleeced and controlled by high and unequal property tax and high water and sewer fees. St Marys citizens live under a government where checks and balances vital to democracy havae been overwhelmed by centralized economic power. The local political machine maintains power via its agents in govenment and via tax agreements between the city and the political machine.
Agents of the ploitical machine may include members of Council or tax assessors who "serve" without a conscience. Taxation policy and politics run hand in hand. Special tax breaks for the "politically powerful" are the rule rather than the exception.
"Elites" under no uncertian terms will let you know that it's no body else's business how they run "their " town.
The financial power has shifted its focus from the mill culture but the political machine remains intact. The financial focus is now on the newly annexed sub-divisions where the sheep, "financial targets of oportunity," are sheared via high property tax and high water and sewer fees. Note - the special tax breaks for the wealthy large land owners and protected special interest remain intact.
To live in St Marys one must give up cherished political and legal freedoms. The city is run on civic pride born of paternalism.
The results are demoralized citizaens ruled by mistrust, fear dispair and resignation. Why fight when the game is rigged.
Read the article the above is just a summary.
You are so right!!! But how do we stop them? How do we get the family inheritance trend to stop in elections?
Clean Government

Kingsland, GA

#18 Jan 30, 2013
Really wrote:
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You are so right!!! But how do we stop them? How do we get the family inheritance trend to stop in elections?
Never vote for the crooked and uneducated candidate. There is nothing worse than a crook or an ignorant fool in public elected office.

The crooks and ignorant slobs in public elected office must be voted out, and encouraged not to run for public office.
bad idea

Savannah, GA

#19 Jan 30, 2013
Old Timer, too bad you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to high water rates. The city did not have to spend $40 million to increase its capacity so high. It was like them buying a Rolls Royce when they only needed an economy car. They made the decision based on the delusion that the city would have astronomical growth that the outsiders moving into town would pay for. This was done under the watch of Deborah Hase, Trader, Deloughy and company. We'll be paying for this for years to come thanks to their bad decisions.
Really

Kingsland, GA

#20 Jan 30, 2013
bad idea wrote:
Old Timer, too bad you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to high water rates. The city did not have to spend $40 million to increase its capacity so high. It was like them buying a Rolls Royce when they only needed an economy car. They made the decision based on the delusion that the city would have astronomical growth that the outsiders moving into town would pay for. This was done under the watch of Deborah Hase, Trader, Deloughy and company. We'll be paying for this for years to come thanks to their bad decisions.
Exactly Right

We had stand-up citizens that voiced their opposition to that expansion. After many cocktail
evenings with real estate cartel members the city council made up their minds and the door was shut.

Gambling on speculation with tax payers money was our new path.

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