Sure, more guns. What could go wrong?

Sure, more guns. What could go wrong?

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NFL Guy

Woodbine, GA

#1 Mar 5, 2013
What could possibly go wrong with more and more people getting more and more guns? Situations like described below:

"The scene happened Monday in the Panhandle community of Crawfordville, FL. 61-year-old Mary Frances Alday brought an internet coupon to her local Walmart. The one dollar coupon was rejected. The angry Alday responded by calling the assistant manager, Tracy Stockslager, 48,“a bitch and other foul names.”

Alday was kicked out of the store where she reportedly warned Stockslager not to follow her. The employee says she “was going to get her vehicle license plate number.”

lday replied (from The Smoking Gun),“If you follow me, I have something in my car for you,” Alday warned. The Smoking Gun continues:

As several Walmart employees watched from the store’s entrance, Alday appeared outside her car “waving the gun in the holster,” reported investigators. Alday then removed the weapon–a loaded Smith & Wesson .38 Special–from the holster and pointed it “at all the store employees and stated ‘I have something for Y’all.’” The Walmart workers “retreated back inside the building due to being in fear for their lives.”

Alday, who fled the Walmart parking lot in a 2011 Ford Escape, was subsequently pulled over by a sheriff’s deputy who asked if there was a firearm in the SUV.“Yes, I have a concealed weapons permit, and you are not taking my gun.” Asked about the gun’s location, Alday replied,“You’re not taking my gun.”

Alday twice refused the deputy’s request to exit the auto, and was tasered when she “reached over the console for something in the passenger seat.” Alday was then dragged from the car and handcuffed. The gun was found in the vehicle’s center console.

Alday was taken into police custody and charged with four counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and one count of battery. She hasn’t yet appeared in court and there’s no indication as to whether she will claim the Stand Your Ground Law as defense against the store employees who were following her to her car.

While it’s easy for us to laugh at the situation, guns are a real concern to service employees. As more and more people carry concealed weapons, gun owners are beginning to see guns not as a Second Amendment right, but almost as a First Amendment right."

Despite Republican and NRA pleading, more guns are not the answer. Tougher restrictions and laws are the answer.

Whole story here: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/05/respo...
NFL Guy

Dornsife, PA

#2 Mar 5, 2013
I would like to ask my Topix readers for a moment of silence in remembrance of Hugo Chavez, one of the greatest leaders of our time.
Orion

Blue Ridge, GA

#3 Mar 5, 2013
alternate universe
ye herd

Herndon, PA

#4 Mar 5, 2013
NFL Guy wrote:
I would like to ask my Topix readers for a moment of silence in remembrance of Hugo Chavez, one of the greatest leaders of our time.
you must have got your head bashed to many times, ye herd???

“Post 6, 2017 thru 2020 ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#5 Mar 6, 2013
Condolences to Comrade Kearns.

I wonder if her flags in her park are at half mast today?
Anon

Kingsland, GA

#7 Mar 6, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
Condolences to Comrade Kearns.
I wonder if her flags in her park are at half mast today?
I don't believe that the US will fly the flag at half mast for Chavez. You can lower your flag or fly the Venezuelan flag if you are such a great fan of Chavez. I always did suspect that your allegiance was somewhere other than here.
Really

Saint Marys, GA

#8 Mar 6, 2013
NFL Guy wrote:
What could possibly go wrong with more and more people getting more and more guns? Situations like described below:
"The scene happened Monday in the Panhandle community of Crawfordville, FL. 61-year-old Mary Frances Alday brought an internet coupon to her local Walmart. The one dollar coupon was rejected. The angry Alday responded by calling the assistant manager, Tracy Stockslager, 48,“a bitch and other foul names.”
Alday was kicked out of the store where she reportedly warned Stockslager not to follow her. The employee says she “was going to get her vehicle license plate number.”
lday replied (from The Smoking Gun),“If you follow me, I have something in my car for you,” Alday warned. The Smoking Gun continues:
As several Walmart employees watched from the store’s entrance, Alday appeared outside her car “waving the gun in the holster,” reported investigators. Alday then removed the weapon–a loaded Smith & Wesson .38 Special–from the holster and pointed it “at all the store employees and stated ‘I have something for Y’all.’” The Walmart workers “retreated back inside the building due to being in fear for their lives.”
Alday, who fled the Walmart parking lot in a 2011 Ford Escape, was subsequently pulled over by a sheriff’s deputy who asked if there was a firearm in the SUV.“Yes, I have a concealed weapons permit, and you are not taking my gun.” Asked about the gun’s location, Alday replied,“You’re not taking my gun.”
Alday twice refused the deputy’s request to exit the auto, and was tasered when she “reached over the console for something in the passenger seat.” Alday was then dragged from the car and handcuffed. The gun was found in the vehicle’s center console.
Alday was taken into police custody and charged with four counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and one count of battery. She hasn’t yet appeared in court and there’s no indication as to whether she will claim the Stand Your Ground Law as defense against the store employees who were following her to her car.
While it’s easy for us to laugh at the situation, guns are a real concern to service employees. As more and more people carry concealed weapons, gun owners are beginning to see guns not as a Second Amendment right, but almost as a First Amendment right."
Despite Republican and NRA pleading, more guns are not the answer. Tougher restrictions and laws are the answer.
Whole story here: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/05/respo...
To cite one story and say that the answer is tougher laws and restictions is the answer is crazy. If tougher laws and restrictions work so well then why does the federal government have a proclaimed "WAR ON DRUGS". Last time I looked those were illegal. It just goes to show you that people that want something will get it no matter the cost. In your story above it is evident that this woman had no business possesing a firearm but to generalize a stance is not fair or constituional for the rest of us law abiding citizens that far out number those that break the law. Just saying.
CheersForKyle

Apopka, FL

#9 Mar 6, 2013
Gonna need them to keep us safe from the drones! Is this Star Wars?
NFL Guy

Woodbine, GA

#10 Mar 8, 2013
Sure, guns in school, another dumbsh*t Republican/NRA/Teapublican idea. More guns IS NOT THE ANSWER!

From yesterday: "A New York town that began assigning an armed police officer to guard a high school in the wake of the Connecticut massacre has suspended the program after an officer accidentally discharged his pistol in a hallway while classes were in session.

Lt. James Janso of the Lloyd police department tells media outlets Officer Sean McCutcheon will be suspended while an investigation continues."
Nutso

Saint Marys, GA

#11 Mar 8, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe that the US will fly the flag at half mast for Chavez. You can lower your flag or fly the Venezuelan flag if you are such a great fan of Chavez. I always did suspect that your allegiance was somewhere other than here.
Stop by the post office and look.
CheersForKyle

Apopka, FL

#12 Mar 8, 2013
SEIU in New York is holding a gathering in his honor. What the hell is happening to this Country?
CheersForKyle

Apopka, FL

#13 Mar 8, 2013
Above post was in reference to post by Anon re Chavez.

“Post 6, 2017 thru 2020 ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#14 Mar 8, 2013
Way to go, South Dakota.Now your teachers can protect your kids with something besides their bodies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/08/sd...
NFL Guy

Saint Marys, GA

#15 Mar 14, 2013
"BELLEVUE, Wash.- A 50-year-old man shot and killed himself during a gun-safety class at a Bellevue gun range.

Brian J. Parry is believed to have shot himself in the head with a pistol Sunday during a class at West Coat Armory, a gun range and dealer with outlets in Bellevue and Issaquah.

Bellevue police spokeswoman Carla Iafrate confirmed that police are investigating the shooting but refused to release details. She said the investigation into Parry’s death is ongoing.

The King County Medical Examiner’s Office earlier this week ruled Parry’s death a suicide. He died of a contact gunshot wound to the head.

In an email, a man describing himself as a witness to the shooting said the dead man – identified by the Medical Examiner’s Office as Parry – stood in front of more than a dozen people participating in the class and ended his life.

Several children saw the shooting, which occurred at West Coast Armory’s indoor range at 13216 S.E. 32nd St. in Bellevue."

Bet his family is sooooo happy he decided to get a gun! Yea, more guns for more people, what could possibly go wrong? Besides more deaths I mean.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-kills-...
hayneedle

Saint Marys, GA

#16 Mar 14, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
Way to go, South Dakota.Now your teachers can protect your kids with something besides their bodies.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/08/sd...
I taught school once upon a time and firmly support 2nd amendment rights...especially in today's world. Some of Georgia's schools are warzones. The "bad guys" will always have access to deadly weapons and use them without compunction. Restricting gun ownership only works on the law abiding element of society...they become easier marks. If I were teaching today, I would be carrying.
hayneedle

Saint Marys, GA

#17 Mar 14, 2013
NFL Guy wrote:
"BELLEVUE, Wash.- A 50-year-old man shot and killed himself during a gun-safety class at a Bellevue gun range.
Brian J. Parry is believed to have shot himself in the head with a pistol Sunday during a class at West Coat Armory, a gun range and dealer with outlets in Bellevue and Issaquah.
Bellevue police spokeswoman Carla Iafrate confirmed that police are investigating the shooting but refused to release details. She said the investigation into Parry’s death is ongoing.
The King County Medical Examiner’s Office earlier this week ruled Parry’s death a suicide. He died of a contact gunshot wound to the head.
In an email, a man describing himself as a witness to the shooting said the dead man – identified by the Medical Examiner’s Office as Parry – stood in front of more than a dozen people participating in the class and ended his life.
Several children saw the shooting, which occurred at West Coast Armory’s indoor range at 13216 S.E. 32nd St. in Bellevue."
Bet his family is sooooo happy he decided to get a gun! Yea, more guns for more people, what could possibly go wrong? Besides more deaths I mean.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-kills-...
You know, the guy would probably have overdosed on aspirin if he hadn't had a firearm, or crashed his vehicle into a tree. His gun wasn't the problem...he was. Guns don't kill people..people kill people. And they have for thousands of years. First with rocks, then spears, then arrows, etc., etc. Anyone wanting to kill themself or someone else will find a weapon.

I have close friends who moved from Camden to a smaller, more rural Georgia county (and more peaceful, they thought) where they have family...it's smaller than Woodbine. They had a man come to their house after arriving home from church on a rainy night demanding entry. The sheriff came and left without doing anything. The man claimed that he was scared of the weather and was looking for a safe haven. The next day they found where that man had almost successfully forced entry into their home before the arrival of the sheriff. There is an all night truck stop 1200 feet down the road. Luckily they have firearms.

About eighteen months ago in northern Camden three men tried unsuccessfully in broad daylight to force entry into two homes in a nice area where only a teen girl was home at one house and a teen boy at the other. The girl called her mother who called 911. The boy, who hunted with his family, armed himself with a shotgun.

They fled the girl's home only after they heard the sirens approaching. Thank the Lord the law arrived before it was too late!

They fled the boy's home when they heard him chamber a shell into his shotgun.

Their method is to distract the victim at the main entry while a partner forces entry at secondary doors. I haven't heard of them being apprehended as yet.

There are many instances of self defense by gunowners which the media NEVER mention. They aren't exciting enough for them unless the gunowner kills or is killed. Instances of deterrence aren't newsworthy!
Gun Owner

Kingsland, GA

#18 Mar 15, 2013
This country and this sick society has produced the most phycotic and phycopatic violent killers ever in the history of man.

Only the threat of being killed by a gun owning homeowner keep violent deadly home invaders at bay. If guns are outlawed, your home will be invaded, your wife and daughter will be raped in front of your eyes and then you will be killed.

The police, your relatives or friends will arrive in time to find your decaying bodies.

Any stupid lawmaker who advocates changing the 2nd Amendment should be forced to live in Uganda, The Congo or Samalia where they are subject to being raped and abused by violent mobs.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#19 Mar 15, 2013
We need crime control, not gun control. Passing gun control laws only work on those who obay the laws.... get it?

The criminal element in our country don't care about the laws.... that's why they are called criminals.... get it.

'We', the law abiding, tax paying gun owners are NOT the problem. Why take our guns, and our freedom of choice of WHAT GUNS we can have.....'We' are NOT the problem...get it ?!?

Every idiot inside the 'Beltway' has already acknowledged the gun control measures they're pushing won't do any good.... except to disarm the law-abiding.

Why not work to solve the crime problem?
Wrong again

Saint Marys, GA

#20 Mar 15, 2013
hayneedle wrote:
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Guns don't kill people..people kill people.
Wrong. If this guy did not have a gun in his hands he would not have a bullet in his head. Period. Guns do kill people ALL THE TIME!
Bernie Getz

Kingsland, GA

#21 Mar 15, 2013
The next time one of these liberal hugged thugs are shot, all the shooter has to claim as a defense: "it wasn't me, your honor, the gun did it."

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