my water bill in st marys
anon

Herndon, PA

#21 Jan 2, 2013
Look it is this simple , you have a Vote , use it VOTE NO to anything that is connected to a tax

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#22 Jan 3, 2013
on the take wrote:
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JAY,you a F@!$ing idiot I sat in the meeting where chuck trader said the increase was to restructure a bond and keep AAA credit rate with Bank of America. but before they would the city needed to show more income.
After it was raised the loan app was resubmitted and it freed up
1 million dollars that was put in general fund 9 days later the gilman property was bought.
So dont sit and say im a liar. you tell me where the money came from. Every council member but bird voted in favor of buying it in a so called excutive meeting. yes even sydney howell.
AND NO im not running for any office im to honest for that crap.
I was in retail with 50-100 people under me for 26 years. and every year they got atleast a cost of living raise. how many has city workers got in last 5 years. I take better care of my dog than the city takes care of their workers
How about reposting this under your real name so that we can all assess your penchant for honesty and how you claim to have this knowledge of where the money came from to buy the Gilman property.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#23 Jan 3, 2013
anon wrote:
Look it is this simple , you have a Vote , use it VOTE NO to anything that is connected to a tax
Thus spake an irresponsible simpleton.

Not only should we vote in the next SPLOST but I would like to see the water bills have a place in the amount paid area to record monthly voluntary bond reduction contributions of say $1.00 to $5.00.

I'm in.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#24 Jan 3, 2013
on the take wrote:
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Jay how can you always say you are always say goverment needs to be conservative yet you a;ways preach for tax increase E-SPLOST and all other SPLOST passing. If they were grown up they would of cut back spending years ago.
you may need to stay with giving with the food
There is way more to effective,conservative, governance than an idiotic pledge to NEVER raise taxes. Tea Partiers, especially local ones,are long on mouth but short on knowledge of practical governance.

By the way, you obviously missed my prior announcement that I am not running for any office in 2013. Y'all can check me off of your pre-emptive,scurrilous attack list - or not.
Shirley

Dornsife, PA

#25 Jan 3, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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There is way more to effective,conservative, governance than an idiotic pledge to NEVER raise taxes. Tea Partiers, especially local ones,are long on mouth but short on knowledge of practical governance.
By the way, you obviously missed my prior announcement that I am not running for any office in 2013. Y'all can check me off of your pre-emptive,scurrilous attack list - or not.
.......you know by now that you cannot get more than 18% of the vote. The more people that know who you are, the more votes you won't get. You are a vile, angry man.
Say what

Saint Marys, GA

#26 Jan 3, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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There is way more to effective,conservative, governance than an idiotic pledge to NEVER raise taxes. Tea Partiers, especially local ones,are long on mouth but short on knowledge of practical governance.
By the way, you obviously missed my prior announcement that I am not running for any office in 2013. Y'all can check me off of your pre-emptive,scurrilous attack list - or not.
I can sleep well tonight you non -electable idiot.
on the take

Herndon, PA

#27 Jan 3, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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How about repositing this under your real name so that we can all assess your penchant for honesty and how you claim to have this knowledge of where the money came from to buy the Gilman property.
If I repost Bill,Debra,Chuck,Thornhill,Syd ney or any other name you would not change or mind.If you were at any of the meetings you would recall the council saying they were to broke to give pay raises but when that property came up all of a sudden 1.3 million showed up in general fund to buy it.
2 weeks earlier they went to BOA and found out how to free up some security money on that bond.
Trader used the excuse of saving our credit was BS.
9 days before the auction the money was put into account.

If you think im wrong ask for the same open records i did.
Then call Sydney Howell ask how the closed door vote went down.

on the take

Herndon, PA

#28 Jan 3, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Thus spake an irresponsible simpleton.
Not only should we vote in the next SPLOST but I would like to see the water bills have a place in the amount paid area to record monthly voluntary bond reduction contributions of say $1.00 to $5.00.
I'm in.
I would like to see people can get only the amount of money out of SS that they put in. If worker only put in 10,000 over his/her working days thats all they get out. but the can voluntary put in up to 5 million
I'm in. that all these so called disable freeloaders would get a job.
Thats smart to give the goverment more than they ask for.
UNLESS THE CITY SAYS 100% OF SPLOST GOES TO WATER BOND WE SHOULD VOTE !!!!!NO!!!!
cut back on public works and all those office workers.

KEEP our police and fire if you need to cut back do that.

we need to fight for our police dept
Real Tax Payer

Saint Marys, GA

#29 Jan 3, 2013
I believe the final Splost 7 list has already been submitted with several million allocated in general terms for more B/S projects. I am willing to pay higher water/sewer rates just for the opportunity to hear the city council (five in the middle) tell me my mill rate is going up to pay for a new downtown tourist trolley and other B/S projects that Splost would have automatically taken care of. If Splost 7 was 100% for paying off the w/s debt I would have voted yes. Vote No!!
on the take

Herndon, PA

#30 Jan 3, 2013
Jay do youself a favor go back and read the june 14,2010 meeting
in the same meeting trader said to refinace a bond to free up money for future purchases that may come up.He also said that the city needed to stop matching employees retirement for 1 year because of buget problems.
Please tell me how you see that is truthful when same person (TRADER) 2 weeks later in a closed door meeting voted to buy gilman house.
now jay im giving you all the places to go and read up on it to prove im not a lier

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#31 Jan 3, 2013
on the take wrote:
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If I repost Bill,Debra,Chuck,Thornhill,Syd ney or any other name you would not change or mind.If you were at any of the meetings you would recall the council saying they were to broke to give pay raises but when that property came up all of a sudden 1.3 million showed up in general fund to buy it.
2 weeks earlier they went to BOA and found out how to free up some security money on that bond.
Trader used the excuse of saving our credit was BS.
9 days before the auction the money was put into account.
If you think im wrong ask for the same open records i did.
Then call Sydney Howell ask how the closed door vote went down.
Okay, scan and post the results of your FOIR that proves you are not full of crap.

Temporal proximity does not equal causality - except in your fevered, conspiracist mind.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#32 Jan 3, 2013
on the take wrote:
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I would like to see people can get only the amount of money out of SS that they put in. If worker only put in 10,000 over his/her working days thats all they get out. but the can voluntary put in up to 5 million
I'm in. that all these so called disable freeloaders would get a job.
Thats smart to give the goverment more than they ask for.
UNLESS THE CITY SAYS 100% OF SPLOST GOES TO WATER BOND WE SHOULD VOTE !!!!!NO!!!!
cut back on public works and all those office workers.
KEEP our police and fire if you need to cut back do that.
we need to fight for our police dept
You do realize that you are under no legal obligation to ever claim any Soical Security benefits, right? Could those of us who need them have your pledge at this time to never do so no matter what the future holds for you?

If you are stupid enough to vote against your own self-ijnterest on SPLOST, then surely forfeiting your SS benefits should pose no problem.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#33 Jan 3, 2013
By the way, you will surely be interested in that new line of insurnce products just announced by Mutual of Morons.

They offer all ines of insurance at unbeatable rates.

That is made possible by the fact that whenever you suffer an insured casualty, you or your heirs receive an amout equal to the sum total of all premiums paid to date for that policy, but no more. That should be right up your alley.
on the take

Herndon, PA

#34 Jan 3, 2013
JAY,so out of all that bullcrap you just said you must of already overdrew your investment in SS.
And if it goes the way I plan Ill do the same as my dad and will not have to worry about SS after I retire. my kids will send me a check just as I did for him.So he worked for 45 years turned it over to us and he kept getting a paycheck as if he was there.When he passed we did not ask for the 425.00 from SS.its only bums and theifs that take whats not theirs.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#35 Jan 3, 2013
And only fools turn down the social insurance benefits they have paid for when the need arises.

As to whehter I'm overdrawn, I have no clue. But if not, I certainly hope to if only to shove my longevity up your hateful arsse.
J is full of crap

Herndon, PA

#36 Jan 3, 2013
I went and looked at citys website and its all there what on the take said. Jay you are the master at copy and paste.I dont ever do that so do you mind doing it. and lets let everyone read it.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#37 Jan 3, 2013
Bye-Bye wrote:
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How the hell can yours be that cheap???
I pay $89 a mo. & don't even use that much water. I can't stand to drink that foul smelling sewer water that we are over charged for and buy bottled.
I even have a filtration system & it still smells.
I'm moving to Kingsland away from this mess.
Well, let's see. I bathe daily. C.J. gets a bath every other Friday. Sarah washes dishes and clothes on MWF. I have 4 cups of coffee per day (2 large mugs). I have a couple of glasses of water every day (after it passes through my whole house filter.) C.J. drinks maybe a gallon per week. I flush after every use. Then there's tooth brushing and medicine taking. That's about it.

It used to be $90.00 to $100.00 higher when I was watering my lawn with city water. Even at current rates, I'll recover 100% of my well cost in 36 months. Even sooner if rates go up. You can't get a better return on $3,000 than you can on a well in St. Marys.
Say what

Saint Marys, GA

#38 Jan 3, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Well, let's see. I bathe daily. C.J. gets a bath every other Friday. Sarah washes dishes and clothes on MWF. I have 4 cups of coffee per day (2 large mugs). I have a couple of glasses of water every day (after it passes through my whole house filter.) C.J. drinks maybe a gallon per week. I flush after every use. Then there's tooth brushing and medicine taking. That's about it.
It used to be $90.00 to $100.00 higher when I was watering my lawn with city water. Even at current rates, I'll recover 100% of my well cost in 36 months. Even sooner if rates go up. You can't get a better return on $3,000 than you can on a well in St. Marys.
Whoa buddy!! I recall you spouting about saving tremendous amounts of water by using your little water heater system.

“Master o Public Administration”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#39 Jan 3, 2013
My hot water heater uses city water, idiot.

However, I have instant hot water all over the house due to my gadget I had installed.

Given that I don't have to waste water waiting for it to run hot, that probably does save on my water bill, but not much.

Incidentally, after August of 2014, my well will start paying me $100.00 per month in water savings above the recovered cost of the well.

My new (a year ago) front load washer is also incredibly efficient on both water and electricity.

Oh, and I take Navy showers.
lou lou

Woodbine, GA

#40 Jan 3, 2013
I live in the county. I try to shop exclusively in Camden County. Why should mt tax dollars (SPLOST 7) go to supplement St Marys and their poor planning?

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