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So what are you implying Jay?

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It is of my opinion that NO Presidential Executive Order can force a state to do anything.
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Feb 14, 2013
 
The only entity that can rule that any federal law is unconstitutional is the US Supreme Court. Spencer is, once again, running his mouth on total BS.
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Senora de la Iglesia wrote:
It is of my opinion that NO Presidential Executive Order can force a state to do anything.
Hell our local and federal governments do not follow or enforce the law. Why should the state be too concerned about trying to follow the law?

We are long past being a nation ruled by laws. We are now a nation ruled at the whim of greedy corrupted men. Call it crony capitalism or socialism; it is all the same.
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The only entity that can rule that any federal law is unconstitutional is the US Supreme Court. Spencer is, once again, running his mouth on total BS.
No, It sounds to me as if your don't have any idea what you are talking about. Why don't you just shut the hell up and let the grown folks discuss this.

Sounds to me you are still a little pissed off that Adam lost.

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The only entity that can rule that any federal law is unconstitutional is the US Supreme Court. Spencer is, once again, running his mouth on total BS.
Spencer is standing up for you. He is also following suit to what other states are doing.
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Spencer is a consistent Cervantes character, tilting at windmills, or for you Steel Away folks: urinating on the non-lee.
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No, It sounds to me as if your don't have any idea what you are talking about. Why don't you just shut the hell up and let the grown folks discuss this.
Sounds to me you are still a little pissed off that Adam lost.
I know that a federal law trumps state and local laws. I know that if a state refuses to recognize federal law and encourages its citizens to violate federal law, the US Dept. of Justice may take legal action against the state. I know that the only way to ultimately challenge the constitutionality of a federal law is before the US Supreme Court. I know that the Second Amendment of the Constitution, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in 1911, allows for regulation, but not banning, ownership of firearms.

In my opinion, Spencer seems to have a proclivity for off-the-wall ideas. Even he admits that this proposal has no chance of passing. It is just more grand-standing BS.

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I know that a federal law trumps state and local laws. I know that if a state refuses to recognize federal law and encourages its citizens to violate federal law, the US Dept. of Justice may take legal action against the state. I know that the only way to ultimately challenge the constitutionality of a federal law is before the US Supreme Court. I know that the Second Amendment of the Constitution, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in 1911, allows for regulation, but not banning, ownership of firearms.
In my opinion, Spencer seems to have a proclivity for off-the-wall ideas. Even he admits that this proposal has no chance of passing. It is just more grand-standing BS.
Executive Orders are not federal law. In order for something to be a federal law it would have had to be passed by both houses of congress and signed by the president.

In my opinion Obama is using executive orders to get things done using a passed law. Problem is what the executive order pertains to is something that's on the periphery of the actual law.
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Feb 15, 2013
 
I ask this question pertaining to federal law. Does it violate the constitution. Example would be laws pertaing to states rights.
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Executive Orders are not federal law. In order for something to be a federal law it would have had to be passed by both houses of congress and signed by the president.
In my opinion Obama is using executive orders to get things done using a passed law. Problem is what the executive order pertains to is something that's on the periphery of the actual law.
True, but President Obama has not issued any executive order that in any way limits the Second Amendment so this is a moot point.
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Tom wrote:
I ask this question pertaining to federal law. Does it violate the constitution. Example would be laws pertaing to states rights.
Does what specific law violate the constitution? In this case, the Constitution does not grant states the right to ignore a federal law nor does it grant states the right to arbitrarily judge the constitutionality of a federal law. That right is granted only to the US Supreme Court.

There is a view, widely held by some ultra conservative groups, that a state may nullify a federal law that it feels is unconstitutional. This has been repeatedly rejected by the US Supreme Court and by lower courts, so we must accept that states do not have such rights.
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True, but President Obama has not issued any executive order that in any way limits the Second Amendment so this is a moot point.
For now.
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Anon wrote:
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I know that a federal law trumps state and local laws. I know that if a state refuses to recognize federal law and encourages its citizens to violate federal law, the US Dept. of Justice may take legal action against the state. I know that the only way to ultimately challenge the constitutionality of a federal law is before the US Supreme Court. I know that the Second Amendment of the Constitution, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in 1911, allows for regulation, but not banning, ownership of firearms.
In my opinion, Spencer seems to have a proclivity for off-the-wall ideas. Even he admits that this proposal has no chance of passing. It is just more grand-standing BS.
OH Please!! Have you heard him admit this? You sound an awful like Jacobson. I just think you are still pissed off that he won when you thought you had it in the bag. Your ranting almost sounds verbatim to the ranting when you called Spencer after you lost. Then you got your ass told off then as well. Go back to selling lemon cars and phones up there at Verizon and figure out new ways to scam folks and just shut the hell up. You have a new baby on the way, so I think you better turn your attention to your family. You had your chance with politics and you blew it...even with the help of your ole Buddy Ralston.

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Spencer is a consistent Cervantes character, tilting at windmills, or for you Steel Away folks: urinating on the non-lee.
The answer, my friend, is he's pissin' into the wind.
Yes, Jason is pissin' into the wind.
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The answer, my friend, is he's pissin' into the wind.
Yes, Jason is pissin' into the wind.
You do that often don't you Jay? You know,pissing on yourself.
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OH Please!! Have you heard him admit this? You sound an awful like Jacobson. I just think you are still pissed off that he won when you thought you had it in the bag. Your ranting almost sounds verbatim to the ranting when you called Spencer after you lost. Then you got your ass told off then as well. Go back to selling lemon cars and phones up there at Verizon and figure out new ways to scam folks and just shut the hell up. You have a new baby on the way, so I think you better turn your attention to your family. You had your chance with politics and you blew it...even with the help of your ole Buddy Ralston.
I don't even know Jacobson. Please, at least try to discuss the subject. I think that Spencer's proposed law is just plain foolish grand-standing. I would think it was foolish if Jacobson had won and had subsequently made the same proposal. Do you have anything to contribute that would support this proposal? Do you think it will pass? Do you think it is legal? Do you think that states have the right to nullify federal law if they (the state) believes it to be unconstitutional? Do you have any real facts or thoughts to contribute?
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Do you think that states have the right to nullify federal law if they (the state) believes it to be unconstitutional? YES

Do you think it will pass? With the right people in his corner,YES

Do you think it is legal? YES

Do you have any real facts or thoughts to contribute? YES, you're a complete ass wipe.
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Tom wrote:
I ask this question pertaining to federal law. Does it violate the constitution. Example would be laws pertaing to states rights.
Does it (any federal law)violate the constitution?

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