Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#201 Feb 26, 2013
Edna wrote:
Only in St. Marys do people advocate tearing down a landmark and destroying what has been the picture post card face of our city to adhere to a Tea Party covenant. This should prove to residents these people care nothing for our community or its history or heritage. Small town terrorists. Is this really who we want to entrust the future of our city to. I would hope that our problems could be solved by intelligent solutions and fiscal conservative individuals who have a sensable approach to move our city into the future.
I've got a couple of problems with your argument.

1. Other than Jay Moreno, I haven't seen anyone advocate tearing down Orange Hall.

2. Looking at the list of proposed projects, I don't see any funding for Orange Hall restoration. I have seen estimates that it would require $5 million or more to do what the foundation wants done. If St. Marys is planning on spending that much on Orange Hall restoration with SPLOST 7 funds, that should be disclosed, and let the voters decide.

3. SPLOST is not a slush fund. The original intent was to fund infrastructure improvements like courthouses, jails, roads, etc. with a temporary tax that would not burden taxpayers in the future with bond indebtedness. We've got some big infrastructure improvements looming on the horizon at the county level, and if we agree to the current method of dividing up the revenue from the tax, we'll be locked in for the next 6 years, at least.
Hold On

Kingsland, GA

#202 Feb 26, 2013
Informed Voter wrote:
It's NOT a "new tax." SPLOSTs have been in effect in Camden for almost 30 years!
It is a new tax. Splost Seven is a completly different animal than Splost One. Jay Moreno warned you when the City Council took excess funds to build the park "Thing". That was not a listed pre-approved Capital Improvement Project. Once they got away with that the door was open for the wasteful self-interest slush fund.
Oxboe

Woodbine, GA

#203 Feb 26, 2013
Get rid of half of these desk jocky's working for the govt. We could save millions. Just keep the workers.
Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#204 Feb 26, 2013
Smart Voter wrote:
There are 68 members of my extended family and we all will vote against SPLOSTVII.
We will vote our pocketbook. We prefer to spend our own money and do not like our money spent preserving rotting buildings like Orange Hall.
Only God and the archives of the Bryan-Lang Library (thanks cousin Bebe!) know how many members there are in my extended family, and I wouldn't presume to speak for all of them. That's just on Dad's side.
Truth

Kingsland, GA

#205 Feb 26, 2013
Hold On wrote:
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It is a new tax. Splost Seven is a completly different animal than Splost One. Jay Moreno warned you when the City Council took excess funds to build the park "Thing". That was not a listed pre-approved Capital Improvement Project. Once they got away with that the door was open for the wasteful self-interest slush fund.
The City should hire Jay Moreno as the SPLOST Czar.
WTF

Saint Marys, GA

#206 Feb 26, 2013
I live in the county and the county,kingsland,and woodbine spent the SPLOST the way they said we have 1 city thats a total screw up and cant keep their word.I'm voting no on it because I dont feel like the rest of us should bail out St.Marys.
History tells us that let them fail. Taxes are going to go up no matter what
My Opinion

Herndon, PA

#207 Feb 26, 2013
Less Tea Party we will all be better off.
Informed Voter

Saint Marys, GA

#208 Feb 27, 2013
My Opinion wrote:
Less Tea Party we will all be better off.
I agree. So far we've heard nothing from any of them but conspiracy theories, bizarre "take back America" rhetoric, empty ideas with no plans of rational action and tantrums. They seem to hope that America will fail so that they, the anointed, can recreate it in their image. They do it on the national stage and here in St. Marys with their anti-SPLOST garbage. It's all based on promoting misinformation and paranoia.
Oxboe

Woodbine, GA

#209 Feb 27, 2013
St Marys Voter wrote:
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There's a well laid-out case against SPLOST VII. Come on, Bob. Share your logical reasons....if you can.
Pay the tax yourself, let Bob alone.
VoteNo

Woodbine, GA

#210 Feb 27, 2013
Informed Voter wrote:
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I agree. So far we've heard nothing from any of them but conspiracy theories, bizarre "take back America" rhetoric, empty ideas with no plans of rational action and tantrums. They seem to hope that America will fail so that they, the anointed, can recreate it in their image. They do it on the national stage and here in St. Marys with their anti-SPLOST garbage. It's all based on promoting misinformation and paranoia.
I would rather throw my money down the drain then to give one penny to St, Marys..

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#211 Feb 27, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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Only God and the archives of the Bryan-Lang Library (thanks cousin Bebe!) know how many members there are in my extended family, and I wouldn't presume to speak for all of them. That's just on Dad's side.
Are there ANY native Camdenians who do not share some genes with ALL of the other ones? Observation would suggest maybe not.
Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#212 Feb 27, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Are there ANY native Camdenians who do not share some genes with ALL of the other ones? Observation would suggest maybe not.
Plenty. For starters, there wasn't a lot of interracial DNA exchange. Among whites, some families didn't get along with other families. And the north end of the county and the south end of the county didn't much like each other. That rivalry had a lot to do with moving the courthouse to Woodbine. It was neutral territory.
WTF

Saint Marys, GA

#213 Feb 27, 2013
Informed Voter wrote:
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I agree. So far we've heard nothing from any of them but conspiracy theories, bizarre "take back America" rhetoric, empty ideas with no plans of rational action and tantrums. They seem to hope that America will fail so that they, the anointed, can recreate it in their image. They do it on the national stage and here in St. Marys with their anti-SPLOST garbage. It's all based on promoting misinformation and paranoia.
You are so informed go write them a blank check and watch what they spend it on. Jay told them a year or so back it could be spent on sewer bond and it did not happen instead they voted to pay the city lawer to check into it.Why did they hier a manager I'll never understand if they just hire firms and lawers to do it .
As crazy as jay sounds at times he had that nailed.

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Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#214 Feb 27, 2013
Why thank you - I think.
Really

Kingsland, GA

#215 Feb 27, 2013
Truth wrote:
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The City should hire Jay Moreno as the SPLOST Czar.
Go Jay Go!!!
Bob

Saint Marys, GA

#216 Feb 27, 2013
I'm still voting NO!!!
Larry

Herndon, PA

#217 Feb 28, 2013
I will vote YES for the future of our community.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#218 Feb 28, 2013
1. Other than Jay Moreno, I haven't seen anyone advocate tearing down Orange Hall.

Not true. I would not even advocate spending taxpayer money to demolish it.

I said I hoped lightning would take it out or a Class 5 downtown renewal would do the job.

However, if we consolidate fire service with the county, setting it alight as a training exercise could be a bonding experience for the county and city firefighters.

Before the firemen move in, Cecil and Delta Dawn could get some stock shots and video for the use of future movie producers flocking to St.Marys.

Royal could invite paranormalsots to town to see if their instrumentatrion could pick up images of fleeing, or burning, ghosts.

DMA could sponsor a marshmallow roast over the embers.
Reasonable Solution

Kingsland, GA

#219 Feb 28, 2013
As a long time resident of St Marys; I believe Orange Hall and several other building in the downtown area should be demolished.

They are rotting eye sores and prevent the city going forward. Orange Hall is not the best and highest use of the property on which it sits. At best, Orange Hall should be sold to a private interest with permission to demolish it. The lot on which it sits should be added back on the tax rolls. Currently Orange Hall is a sink hole for tax revenue. It is allowed to exist only to satisfy the warped desires of a few old mentally unstable individuals who live in the outdated downtown area.
Really

Kingsland, GA

#220 Feb 28, 2013
Orange Hall is exactly why Splost exists. A backdoor usage of tax money to fund a special interest project. Orange Hall should exist solely on donations and committee projects.

Our elected leaders would never suggest raising the Mill Rate to pay for a paint job or replacing a leaking liner at the aquatic park.

Yet with the new Splost we can spend millions on these projects instead of Capitol Improvement Projects, for those projects, they will now raise our Mill Rate.

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