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Anon

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Why all the focus on St Marys. You want to see wrong doing in government focus on the Camden County Commission. Also pay attention on how real estate is assessed for property tax purposes.

You should be able to find, with little effort, certain peoples property is assessed below fair market value and certain peoples property is assessed above fair market value.

If you don't think this is corruption of the worse sort then you are stupid and deserve to be ripped off by illegal and excessive property tax.

St Marys' problem is ignorance, the county government problem is mush worse.

Checked you property tax bill lately?
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This has been going on for YEARS!!! That's why the "insiders" must always select who will be Tax COmmissioner, Tax Assessor and Probate Judge. No democracy here folks!
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Why not name names if you know this is in fact going on.
Mammy

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Feb 27, 2013
 
Truth is wrote:
This has been going on for YEARS!!! That's why the "insiders" must always select who will be Tax COmmissioner, Tax Assessor and Probate Judge. No democracy here folks!
You remind me of the covites trying to take the senior tax deduction away.
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Mammy wrote:
<quoted text>You remind me of the covites trying to take the senior tax deduction away.
This has nothing to do with senior tax deductions. This is about unequal taxation by assessing property above and below fair market value to financially help or hurt certain individuals.

This is in your face local government corruption by smug local officials who are above the law.

Checked your property tax bills lately?

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Annie wrote:
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This has nothing to do with senior tax deductions. This is about unequal taxation by assessing property above and below fair market value to financially help or hurt certain individuals.
This is in your face local government corruption by smug local officials who are above the law.
Checked your property tax bills lately?
Someone already asked for names. Are you blowing smoke, or do you have names?
Inside Information

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Someone already asked for names. Are you blowing smoke, or do you have names?
No smoke being blown, and why name names on this site. All anyone has to do to discover the fraud and corrumption is take a look at the property tax records that are on line. Compare assessment values of local connected GOB's property with assessment values of property of unconnected, newcomer or absentee property owners.

Those whose property is assessed far below market value know who they are. Public officials who make sure certain property is assessed below market value know who they are. This corrupt scheme has been playing out for decades in Camden County

The problem is most of the ignorant or absentee property tax payers don't even know their property is being taxed far above market value. This gives corrupt officials cover to get away with the illegal and unequal taxation or property.
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Feb 27, 2013
 
Inside Information wrote:
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No smoke being blown, and why name names on this site. All anyone has to do to discover the fraud and corrumption is take a look at the property tax records that are on line. Compare assessment values of local connected GOB's property with assessment values of property of unconnected, newcomer or absentee property owners.
I'm not in the loop to know who is/is not connected but I have used the assessor website info to successfully appeal my property assessment. I may have just stumbled on GOBs.
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Inside Information wrote:
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No smoke being blown, and why name names on this site. All anyone has to do to discover the fraud and corrumption is take a look at the property tax records that are on line. Compare assessment values of local connected GOB's property with assessment values of property of unconnected, newcomer or absentee property owners.
Those whose property is assessed far below market value know who they are. Public officials who make sure certain property is assessed below market value know who they are. This corrupt scheme has been playing out for decades in Camden County
The problem is most of the ignorant or absentee property tax payers don't even know their property is being taxed far above market value. This gives corrupt officials cover to get away with the illegal and unequal taxation or property.
if your not happy with your tax bill then get off your as! an prove them wrong!!!this is what most of your so called gobs did!!!!!most gobs were replaced long ago ,the ones in there now are there because there replacments were just as bad as so called gobs!!!!!!
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Inside Information wrote:
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No smoke being blown, and why name names on this site. All anyone has to do to discover the fraud and corrumption is take a look at the property tax records that are on line. Compare assessment values of local connected GOB's property with assessment values of property of unconnected, newcomer or absentee property owners.
Those whose property is assessed far below market value know who they are. Public officials who make sure certain property is assessed below market value know who they are. This corrupt scheme has been playing out for decades in Camden County
The problem is most of the ignorant or absentee property tax payers don't even know their property is being taxed far above market value. This gives corrupt officials cover to get away with the illegal and unequal taxation or property.
There are thousands of tax parcels in Camden County. You can't name even one GOB that is getting special treatment. You are a BSer.
wheres the beef

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Feb 28, 2013
 
There is a way to lower your taxes IF you meet all the requirements. However most outsiders do not meet these requirements.
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gossip person wrote:
<quoted text>There are thousands of tax parcels in Camden County. You can't name even one GOB that is getting special treatment. You are a BSer.
I'll bite! Go look up David Rainer. Then for ha ha's look up Charlie Smith property in Osprey Cove and Bailey Mill. Followed that with Cecily Hill waterfront property in St. Mary's.
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A little bit of corruption is good for the system. Don't knock it if you aint never tried it. Traditions are important. I know my family likes it the way it is and always has been.

I remember the good ole days when Daddy could pick up the phone and get us kids out of trouble with the law. Daddy was a big wig at the mill and the law knew to leave us alone. We grew up ok and now many of us have high paying positions of responsibility in the local governments and are church leaders. Many of us have been to the Georgia state leadership conferences in Atlanta. We are approved by the Georgia Municipal association. We are certified local leaders who help direct the day to day activities of local governments.
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I'll bite! Go look up David Rainer. Then for ha ha's look up Charlie Smith property in Osprey Cove and Bailey Mill. Followed that with Cecily Hill waterfront property in St. Mary's.
David Rainer's house is valued simular to other houses in the area. His lot is valued at 32k the same as the other lots . His house is valued at $40/ft (built in 1921). Other houses are valued from $30 to $50/ft. The Charlie Smith house is valued at $90/ft the same as other Osprey houses. His lot is 101k same as other lots. Cecily's property is valued at $564,408. The lot is valued the same as other lots on the river. The house is the same as other houses.

Do you have more GOB house values you would like looked-up?
local man

Saint Marys, GA

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Feb 28, 2013
 
It's interesting when there is no gob corruption all the loudmouths shut up.
Really

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Mar 1, 2013
 
this is very interesting, could just be coincidental. In the private Moeckel Place you have amazing land values for riverfront property.

0. acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 315,250
0.84 acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 150,000
29.67 acres land value 121,891.00
27.16 acres land value 166,445

All next door neighbors.

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Mar 1, 2013
 
And the neighborhood property tax consultant is Bob Nutter.
wheres the beef

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Mar 1, 2013
 
Really wrote:
this is very interesting, could just be coincidental. In the private Moeckel Place you have amazing land values for riverfront property.
0. acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 315,250
0.84 acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 150,000
29.67 acres land value 121,891.00
27.16 acres land value 166,445
All next door neighbors.
The zero acres is not correct. The more water frontage the higher the value. Most of the 29 & 27 acre parcels are marsh.
Jorge

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Mar 1, 2013
 
Really wrote:
this is very interesting, could just be coincidental. In the private Moeckel Place you have amazing land values for riverfront property.
0. acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 315,250
0.84 acres land value 315,250
0. acres land value 150,000
29.67 acres land value 121,891.00
27.16 acres land value 166,445
All next door neighbors.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but not all land is equal esp waterfront. How much of the lot/acreage is high land? Must be > 4 ft to build. How much is marsh? Will it perk in absence of sewer? Tax assessor web data is raw and in some cases incomplete.
tax man

Saint Marys, GA

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Mar 1, 2013
 
Several of the lots there are "King's Grant Land". The property line goes to the middle of the St Marys river which gives the lot several acres under water. The underwater land is not taxed.

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