It is very clear that you have researched this subject at great length, and I will vouch that you know it far more than I. I just diddle around quoting the KJV of the Bible, to shoot Norton down. And -- yes -- sometimes I am ashamed to make such sport of him, but perhaps the "Debbil makes me do it"?Yellow Dog,
We have proven that politics and religion do not mix. I think we have scard all the political posters of the original thread away.
There is nothing Norton can say that I cannot rebutt. What can he tell an ex well-versed christian like myself about Jesus and the New Testament that I do not already know.
I wonder if he has figured out that we are using him for sport? He seems to be taking the bait hook and sinker.
We should be ashamed of ourselves. But he just ain't smart enough to let it go. So I guess this entertainment shall continue by us experienced debaters.
Don't you just love it when christians get so mad that they start calling us enlightened ones misled satanists. If he knew a tidbit of what he believes he knows, he would almost be a genious. lol
I have posed numerous Bible questions to Norton, and he has never answered any of them, primarily because he knows that, if he were to do so, it would reveal various of the flaws of the Bible, which he maintains that he believes in its entirety -- all 14 (or more) versions of it, I suppose.
Having been a ("southern") Baptist for many years, I know that I understand the "Plan of Salvation" as well as Norton. I am very surprised at the re-wording of John 3:16 in the NIV (New and Improved?) version of the Bible - which Norton uses. The "improved" verse removes the word "begotten" which casts doubt on the entire human "birth" of Jesus.
I generally do not lay this on Norton, but Jesus was, presumably, sent to earth as a human, and NOT as a "god." If Jesus WERE a god on earth, then he could not have been crucified as a perfect sinless human for OUR sins. But the Bible clearly tells us of several "miracles" which the HUMAN Jesus presumably performed.
HUMANS do not perform miracles. Only GODS do that. Thus, Jesus was a GOD while here on earth, and could not die as a sinless HUMAN for our sins.
Sorry, Norton! Jesus blew it when he performed all those parlor tricks to impress the people.