O-E to vote on merger again

O-E to vote on merger again

There are 141 comments on the Gloversville Leader-Herald story from Nov 24, 2012, titled O-E to vote on merger again. In it, Gloversville Leader-Herald reports that:

Voters in the Oppenheim-Ephratah Central School District will go to the polls Dec.

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whatever

Fort Plain, NY

#21 Nov 28, 2012
Thank god my last child will graduate in 4 yrs..then all this BS will stop that i need to deal with..soo tired of the back and forth BS about this topic..
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#22 Nov 29, 2012
Dan wrote:
This sounds a lot like jealousy, with who may get raises, and I'm mad they make more than poor me.


JEALOUSY, you really got that from my post hahahahahaha. look at it this way. The average income for the area is between 28-32K per family of 4. Teachers in the area make an average of 50K (lets not even add the 95% family coverage insurance). That's all fine and dandy, but what happens when the $$$ demand goes way above what the communities can handle? BINGO the crap we are talking about now, and quess what, merging is only going to make that demand even higher! Jealousy h377 no, wanting to see a realization of how the communities can survive YES! So again how does a merge fix or equal out the demand on the very community that is trying to support it, and NO the merge is not the correct answer. If the merge were the correct answer then allmost no school would be in trouble, after all these lame excuse of problem fixers(aka mergers) have been going on strong since the 40's. If they are so great then why does the problem just keep escalating?

Is it not the supt job to be involved with all school matters, and in these cases of herkimer and OE, that would be a merge potential. DR is working on merge things. Is that not the job of a supt? You feel he is pushing the merge, is it not the supt. job to do what is best for the district?

His JOB, as you say, is to INFORM THE DISTRICT! Not push for a yes or a no, nor should he use school property to campaign(and yes he did and was caught).

These people are educated to make these decision, and we all put him there to take care of us. So if he gives information on something you have a disagreement with, then all of a sudden that person is no good and wants a raise.[/QUOTE}

Nice try to twist what I have posted(try harder next time). He is there to provide unbiased information, not push the community to do what he wants. Providing info and pushing for something are two compleletly different things. IT IS UP TO THE DISTRICT TO DECIDE! It is not up to him to try and force is opinion, especially when he doesn't even live in the district!

[QUOTE]Do the nothing to offer other merge schools you speak of currently offer more than OE?

???CONFUSED???

[QUOTE]Does OE have a trust fund to fall on in hard times like ODY? Do the other merge schools wish they could go back and could they afford it? Would they have less to offer than they already dont offer as you say? Again, facts, not hearsay stuff.
Still a lot of "I heard" or " I think" stuff.
Just saying

Same can be applied to your posts
a lot of , "I heard" or I think" stuff
. I'll also add, "believe in dreams not guarantees". Or believe in a department that has a track record of screwing things up.
Dan

Saratoga Springs, NY

#23 Nov 29, 2012
Cant reason with a closed mine like yours zing. Everything is negative and someone else is to blame. I dont see you stepping up with any answers, only complaints and how things are screwed up since long ago and continue to be and who has caused it.
Step up zing, tells us all how to fix it, since anything that is being tried is not the right way, in your opinion.
Tell us all how YOU would send things in the right direction and save OE. Tell us all how YOU would stop the downhill spiral that is going on. We have all let you be the "Master Debater" and give all your excuses and blame and information, not followed by any facts other than, I heard or I think.
11 days to go ZING, what are YOUR ways to make this all better.
I dont have an answer, other than lets maybe try the merge, that is why I am asking.
What ever happened with you giving all your magic information to the Leader Herald for them to do another follow up story of all the BOE wrong doings?
Dan

Saratoga Springs, NY

#24 Nov 29, 2012
Sorry spelling error, that would be closed MIND.
Might just as well keep going since I started another post.
Zing, why are you not on the BOE? Why are you not the Superintendent? During those informtaion meetings, why were you in the group, whispering with your own side bar discussions amongst yourself and not giving out your magic fix all to everyone then?
Also forgot
Just saying
No monster

Schenectady, NY

#25 Nov 29, 2012
Zing wrote:
<quoted text>
JEALOUSY, you really got that from my post hahahahahaha. look at it this way. The average income for the area is between 28-32K per family of 4.
We need to show our children that there is more than just this out there and give them chances to obtain it. 32k family of 4? I guess if thats your end goal for your children, your right not to merge!
Willie Wanka

Saint Johnsville, NY

#26 Nov 29, 2012
Well when the merge gets voted down again,get ready to send all the kids to Johnstown with in the next 24 months .If you think I'm BSing call the OE school and ask them about it. There has already been talks between OE and Johnstown reguarding a no vote. So get up there and vote no,because then your kids can go to Johnstown next year... While the OE school sits empty. Then every one loses except Johnstown.
oddasheck

Saint Johnsville, NY

#27 Nov 29, 2012
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT Willie Wanka yet again posted, of course there is absolutely NO TRUTH to his post as usual. You're the tops Chile Willie.

No Monster your posts make absolutley no sense, giving a statistic and achieving a goal are two different things you small minded dork. If the community can't support it then I quess nothing will happen daaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Dan

Oneonta, NY

#28 Nov 29, 2012
Who do we talk to at the school when we call? The receptionist knows nothing about it when I called.
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#29 Nov 29, 2012
Well Dan thanks for the insults, my time is done with you. I have given places to check etc..., might I add much more then you've supplied. As usual you have nothing of importance to add so now it's time to sling pooo. Have a good one and for your sake(StJ) hope you win this so OE can drag your sorry arses out of the sling you've put them in!!!!!!!!!!
oddasheck

Saint Johnsville, NY

#30 Nov 29, 2012
Dan wrote:
Who do we talk to at the school when we call? The receptionist knows nothing about it when I called.

Finally getting the picture are we? This is typical of what is/has/will happen. If you think Willie Nilly has given an honest post you are in worse shape then I ever thought.
Foot toot

Canajoharie, NY

#31 Nov 29, 2012
Zing wrote:
<quoted text>
JEALOUSY, you really got that from my post hahahahahaha. look at it this way. The average income for the area is between 28-32K per family of 4. Teachers in the area make an average of 50K (lets not even add the 95% family coverage insurance). That's all fine and dandy, but what happens when the $$$ demand goes way above what the communities can handle? BINGO the crap we are talking about now, and quess what, merging is only going to make that demand even higher! Jealousy h377 no, wanting to see a realization of how the communities can survive YES! So again how does a merge fix or equal out the demand on the very community that is trying to support it, and NO the merge is not the correct answer. If the merge were the correct answer then allmost no school would be in trouble, after all these lame excuse of problem fixers(aka mergers) have been going on strong since the 40's. If they are so great then why does the problem just keep escalating?
<quoted text>
His JOB, as you say, is to INFORM THE DISTRICT! Not push for a yes or a no, nor should he use school property to campaign(and yes he did and was caught).
<quoted text>
Same can be applied to your posts <quoted text>. I'll also add, "believe in dreams not guarantees". Or believe in a department that has a track record of screwing things up.
So, according to your philosophy, since many people in the O-E area only make around $32K, people who went to college to earn a career in Education shouldn't be allowed to make the going rate of salary for performing that job? Well, then I'll be damned... My doctor should only make $32K, my lawyer should only make $32K, my Veterinarian should only make $32K, etc. It's your typical wah, wah, wah, woe is me garbage. I agree with Dan... No solutions ever, just sour grapes over EVERYTHING. Sad life you choose to live, but you shouldn't let your own disappointments with life affect a chance to make things better for the next generation.
where

Little Falls, NY

#32 Nov 29, 2012
I was on seethough ny.com and did not see in the oe contract that teachers only pay 5% of benefits. Might want to check on that again. I also see starting salary is 30k. At 10 year's it's around 40k at 16 year's it's at 50k and at 22 its 60k. That's pretty low considering they have master's degrees and about 6 years of college.
Dan

Fort Plain, NY

#33 Nov 29, 2012
Hold on zing, you said those places hard mergers that did not work. Not for me or us to go check. YOU were supposed to give facts not hearsay and homework for us. YOU had the answers we were waiting for. I have nothing to add because I do not have the answers like you seem to have. I am asking you. But feel free to run and hide.
Willie Wanka

Saint Johnsville, NY

#34 Nov 29, 2012
oddasheck wrote:
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT Willie Wanka yet again posted, of course there is absolutely NO TRUTH to his post as usual. You're the tops Chile Willie.
No Monster your posts make absolutley no sense, giving a statistic and achieving a goal are two different things you small minded dork. If the community can't support it then I quess nothing will happen daaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
As always you don't know what your talking about. I was told about sending the kids to johnstown from someone at the school. call THE SCHOOL AND ASK THEM IF YOU DON"T WANT TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. You always post crap about things you don't know crap about. All you have to do is call the school and ask them moron..If you don't want to call ,if you did you'd hsve to admit your wrong .dadadada
Willie Wanka

Saint Johnsville, NY

#35 Nov 29, 2012
oddasheck wrote:
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT Willie Wanka yet again posted, of course there is absolutely NO TRUTH to his post as usual. You're the tops Chile Willie.
No Monster your posts make absolutley no sense, giving a statistic and achieving a goal are two different things you small minded dork. If the community can't support it then I quess nothing will happen daaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
ODD BALL why don't you just admit that,your one of the Frasiers. No one else would say the things you put on this site.
Oddasheck

Saint Johnsville, NY

#36 Nov 29, 2012
Hey every one I'm one of the Fraiser's so watch what you talk about on my site, or I'll have it removed. And the next person that throws eggs at my house is in for trouble.
truth finder

Johnsburg, NY

#37 Nov 30, 2012
Zing wrote:
<quoted text>
JEALOUSY, you really got that from my post hahahahahaha. look at it this way. The average income for the area is between 28-32K per family of 4. Teachers in the area make an average of 50K (lets not even add the 95% family coverage insurance). That's all fine and dandy, but what happens when the $$$ demand goes way above what the communities can handle? BINGO the crap we are talking about now, and quess what, merging is only going to make that demand even higher! Jealousy h377 no, wanting to see a realization of how the communities can survive YES! So again how does a merge fix or equal out the demand on the very community that is trying to support it, and NO the merge is not the correct answer. If the merge were the correct answer then allmost no school would be in trouble, after all these lame excuse of problem fixers(aka mergers) have been going on strong since the 40's. If they are so great then why does the problem just keep escalating?
<quoted text>
His JOB, as you say, is to INFORM THE DISTRICT! Not push for a yes or a no, nor should he use school property to campaign(and yes he did and was caught).
<quoted text>
Same can be applied to your posts <quoted text>. I'll also add, "believe in dreams not guarantees". Or believe in a department that has a track record of screwing things up.
I think your numbers are way off, not everyone works at Lexington.
Oddasheck

Saint Johnsville, NY

#38 Nov 30, 2012
Dan wrote:
Who do we talk to at the school when we call? The receptionist knows nothing about it when I called.
You have to call a board member ,doesn't matter which one.. I talked to mrs Hayes
Zing

Saint Johnsville, NY

#39 Nov 30, 2012
Foot toot wrote:
<quoted text> So, according to your philosophy, since many people in the O-E area only make around $32K, people who went to college to earn a career in Education shouldn't be allowed to make the going rate of salary for performing that job?

NOT AT ALL WHAT I SAID! Nice try though, I wrote exactly what I meant to write. You can twist it all you want, your only making yourself look foolish.
Well, then I'll be damned... My doctor should only make $32K, my lawyer should only make $32K, my Veterinarian should only make $32K, etc. It's your typical wah, wah, wah, woe is me garbage. I agree with Dan... No solutions ever, just sour grapes over EVERYTHING. Sad life you choose to live, but you shouldn't let your own disappointments with life affect a chance to make things better for the next generation.

Can I ask, how dopey are you? You are comparing private business to state run jobs, sorry but your example doesn't hold squat. Why is it that a lot of state jobs had to take freezes, cut backs on pay or even worse lost jobs, but some how the ed dept says it's okay to give raises all the while saying "there aint no money". Now maybe you'll understand(?), how does a community afford the cost when the cost keeps growing out of control? I am not against the teachers making a solid living but when the demand has exceeded the actual $$$$$ cap what happens? You say that the area teachers should get the same pay as a teacher in the big city but you forget the cost of living is completely different so again your NUTZ! I did not hold a gun to anyones head and tell them "YOU HAVE TO TEACH HERE." I highly doubt anyone else has either. If they want big city pay then there is a simple solution, MOVE TO THE BIG CITY! There are plenty of teachers that would love to work in this area and yes for a lot less then some of the ones now that are protected to high stink by tenure! I really do wonder whats the difference between the ed dept and polticains, they love to waste, say there is nothing left, then turn around and give themselves a pay raise. Just maybe do you think the problem is not the communties/districts but maybe those running the cat and pony show?
oddasheck

Saint Johnsville, NY

#40 Nov 30, 2012
Oddasheck wrote:
Hey every one I'm one of the Fraiser's so watch what you talk about on my site, or I'll have it removed. And the next person that throws eggs at my house is in for trouble.

Nice try, oh not so smart one, take a look at your stupitidy/post then look at this one. Can ya see the difference..........I'll give you a hint..........location, you troll. I'm just wondering if you could grow up long enough to atleast try and act some what human. Your continued bashing of a family is getting real old and just flat out STUPID, especially when your flinging insults at me, I AM NOT A FRAISER! Of course maybe this is the best you can come up with to support your side of the depate, which in all honesty does not surprise me.

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