Montague County Sheriff Pay Raises

Montague County Sheriff Pay Raises

There are 36 comments on the KFDX-TV Wichita Falls story from Aug 8, 2006, titled Montague County Sheriff Pay Raises. In it, KFDX-TV Wichita Falls reports that:

Montague County Sheriff`s officials say they are losing qualified candidates to neighboring departments because the county just is not paying enough.

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CONCERNEDCITIZEN 76251

Ponca City, OK

#1 Aug 18, 2006
In regards to the Montague County Sheriff Pay Raises, I feel that the following issues need to be addressed:
During Mr. Keating's campaign, he stated that he would be able to run the department on its current budget or less while offering the citizens of Montague County 24 hour patrol. So, why is Sheriff Keating already in need of a 50% budget increase for his second year in office? Will he start the 24 hour patrol when he gets his budget increase? The citizens thought he would be able to offer that at the beginning of his term in January of 2005.
Sheriff Keating also asked for money for new vehicles and gas allowance. He might be able to pay his staff better if he was not allowing them to drive county vehicles to their homes outside of the County, some as far as the Hurst, Euless, Bedford area of Tarrant County. Citizens have spotted these vehicles being driven on I-35 South in Fort Worth on numerous occasions. Since gas prices are at 2.90 a gallon, I am sure that this kind of mileage is taking a toll on the budget, not including the wear and tear on the vehicles. The Sheriff might also need to be questioned about how many county vehicles have been wrecked during his term and that no other county employess are allowed to smoke in their county vehicles, but Sheriff office employees can.
I believe that on last night's newcast, Deputy Lance Provost and Sheriff Keating both said that a 5 percent raise was not enough to pay for gas to drive to work. Well, the county furnishes the gas for the county vehicles which they drive to home and to work, so 5 percent should be plenty for them.
Yes, Montague County Sheriff's Office has had a large turn over of staff since Sheriff Keating took office, however it is really due to pay or due to working conditions? The citizens of Montague County saw staff turn over during Chris Hamilton's term as Sheriff, but not at this rate! It would be interesting to see exactly how many employees have come and gone.
Can Sheriff Keating justify his own pay raise of 15%? Citizens of Montague would also like to know just how many drug busts or any arrests has the Sheriff's office made since January of 2005?
I feel that the news needs to check on these facts.... not just listen to our promise breaking Sheriff!
liveshere76270

Muenster, TX

#2 Aug 24, 2006
well he certainly busted the county judge's son for cooking meth earlier this year. it never happened before with sheriff hamilton. that's why judge kittrell is running a personal agenda at the commissioner's court.
CONCERNEDCITIZEN 76251

Ponca City, OK

#3 Aug 24, 2006
I am sorry to say that your information is wrong.... The North Texas Drug Task Force made that bust and the Montague S.O. was called out to assist. Obviously the voters of Montague County did not hold Judge Kittrell responsible for his GROWN son's actions since he did win the election against Patti Poe.
liveshere76270

Muenster, TX

#4 Aug 24, 2006
I will hold him responsible for his GROWN son's actions in November. The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
CONCERNEDCITIZEN 76251

Tyler, TX

#5 Aug 26, 2006
liveshere76270 wrote:
I will hold him responsible for his GROWN son's actions in November. The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
So, you are saying that no matter how old a child is 20's , 30's even 40's and 50's the parent is responsible for his actions? Murder's parents are the reason that they murder.... Drug User's parents are the reason they use drugs.....Thieves parents are the reason they steal.... hmmm interesting!
liveshere76270

Muenster, TX

#6 Aug 27, 2006
Did I mention he has multiple GROWN children involved in this ILLEGAL activity living in Montague county. Why do you suppose that is? The rest of us would have been in jail years ago.
It has been going on for 7 years that I know of. Does he have any responsibilty for his grandchildren? His GROWN son was cooking meth across the hall from his grandchildren's bedroom.
Now, the taxpayer gets to foot the bill to clean up this GROWN son's mess, his prison time and to raise his three very young children.
I am so very glad that things are finally changing in this county. We finally have a sheriff that is tough on drugs. Regardless how it happened we're getting a new D.A. and we'll see about what happens in November.
CONCERNEDCITIZEN 76251

Ponca City, OK

#7 Aug 28, 2006
I am sorry who is this sheriff that is tough on drugs you keep mentioning? I know it can not be Bill Keating....as I said before maybe you better check with DA's office and see exactly how many drug cases have been filed by the Montague County Sheriff's office since the beginning of Sheriff Keating's term...his record does not show that he is TOUGH on drugs...
Oh and just for the record the state is not paying for any of the Kittrell's grandchildren... All have been placed with family members who are raising them.
liveshere76270

Muenster, TX

#8 Aug 28, 2006
No SSI payments? Yeah, right!

As far as sheriff Keating, he has kept his promises.
I have seen the inmates pick up trash on at least 5 different occassions. I now see sheriff's patrol cars somewhere other than Nocona and Bowie where they have police depts and Dairy Queens. I have also seen known drug houses being watched by sheriff's patrol on two different occasions and I know that a certain meth house was busted back in June 2006 and the sheriff was the first one I saw there. I never saw it in the paper, but I could smell the meth being cooked.
As far as cases that have been filed. I do know that evidence has to be sent off to labs and that it is very costly and backlogged. They can't file a case until the evidence has been tested. The P.A.I.N. meetings are very informative on this kind of info.
I do hope our NEW D.A.is TOUGH on drugs and drunks because the one we have isn't.
citizen

United States

#9 Sep 26, 2006
Its nice to know that you have a perfect sheriff and apparently a perfect family at home. Must be nice.
gonerural

Muenster, TX

#10 Sep 27, 2006
citizen wrote:
Its nice to know that you have a perfect sheriff and apparently a perfect family at home. Must be nice.
If 'perfect' is not cooking/selling drugs and teaching your kids that education, hard work and personal responsibility are not options, okay.
Roxy

Garland, TX

#11 Sep 30, 2006
I live in Montague Co. How about you All?
Drugs are taking over the entire N TX.counties.
This county is full of do nothing druggies. We need the draft back and put these California transplant Gangs on a bus home and off the streets of St Jo.
We have sorry people worring about the Wind Mills while the important things go uncared for.
I wish they would open their eyes and see what is only a few blocks away from them. Sex, Drugs and theft! Thst is ehst we reslly need need more new people here in town. We need people who work at real jobs. Not ssi checks going for drugs.
Roxy
gonerural

Muenster, TX

#12 Sep 30, 2006
I live here too, but don't put all the blame on the CA transplants alot of these druggies are homegrown and get away with it because of their relatives.
As far as the windmills, it is their land let them do what they want. I don't care for the pump jacks, mud farming, drilling, tanker trucks, and saltwater injection sights but the people collecting royalties off oil and gas don't seem to mind too much.
Roxy

Arlington, TX

#13 Oct 1, 2006
I know not all their fault but when the dunder heads follow them instead of getting a life of their own and Our transplanted new students tell the school officials their rules are to hard on the first day of school to try to insite others, We have a proublem.
Muenster takes care of these things better. Tey stick with each other better and inforce rules cshool and town better than Saint Jo. They have their share of Drug parties but you have to be in the click for them.
Not Saint Jo and Montague Co. Those end of school parties are never policed.
The Families of the 2007 grads are really working to try something else next yr.
I wish them luck.
We need better deputies !
Roxy
citizen

United States

#14 Oct 11, 2006
We do need better deputies, and a drug rehab program for our young and perhaps adult citizens. Throwing them in jail and sending them to prisons does not seem to do anything but make them better crooks. Perhaps we need a program where they could get rehab. learn to work at a steady job and be responsible for themselves and their familes. In jail they get 3 free meals, free bed, and offers to join gangs for free
gonerural

Muenster, TX

#15 Oct 12, 2006
They do have drug rehab for these people. The ones that I personally know got rehab and probation on their first offense.
That program your talking about is called the MILITARY.
citizen

United States

#16 Oct 16, 2006
gonerural wrote:
They do have drug rehab for these people. The ones that I personally know got rehab and probation on their first offense.
That program your talking about is called the MILITARY.
You almost have to have a college degree to get in the military, unlike the so call terrorists, they take anyone. You have to be educated, good young healthy body, no handicaps. The greatest weapon is truth, and we all know weapons are not allowed in government building.
Citizen

United States

#17 Nov 6, 2006
There have only been two felony cases filed by the Sheriff since he took office in 2005. If you could get the Captain out from behind his desk maybe we could get more cases filed. Why does the sheriff keep him in a Captains position with the limited knowledge of law enforcement he has and only patrol experience from another agency? You would assume that the sheriff would want someone in that position with knowledge of various law enforcement positions, i.e. crime scene, criminal investigations, warrants ect. Hard to supervise when you have not done the job yourself. I do not agree that officers/staff should use county owned vehicles to use off duty. Does county insurance cover these vehicles if they are out of count NOT on official duty? If so, would the insurance be cheaper for the county if there were written regulations from the Sheriffs office specifically outlining the use of county owned vehicles for on duty sheriff office use?
concernedcitizen 76251

Ponca City, OK

#18 Nov 8, 2006
Finally someone who sees that there is a serious problem at the Montague County S.O.!! Besides the vehicle problem and the captain who will not get out from behind the desk except to smoke .... let's talk about staff who have arrest records! This is the same staff that is allowed in the secure areas of the jail and has acess to confidential information. Where is the 24 hour patrol? The only time I see our deputies out in the community is going to their shift, going to lunch, and going home from their shift. They also drive those county vehicles like they are NASCAR vehicles!! Everytime I drive by the jail, county vehicles are in driveway with the hood up! All that extra wear and tear from the commute to the Metroplex, plus all the deer that the deputies seem to hitting!
Citizen wrote:
There have only been two felony cases filed by the Sheriff since he took officen 2005. If you could get the Captain out from behind his desk maybe we could get more cases filed. Why does the sheriff keep him in a Captains position with the limited knowledge of law enforcement he has and only patrol experience from another agency? You would assume that the sheriff would want someone in that position with knowledge of various law enforcement positions, i.e. crime scene, criminal investigations, warrants ect. Hard to supervise when you have not done the job yourself. I do not agree that officers/staff should use county owned vehicles to use off duty. Does county insurance cover these vehicles if they are out of count NOT on official duty? If so, would the insurance be cheaper for the county if there were written regulations from the Sheriffs office specifically outlining the use of county owned vehicles for on duty sheriff office use?
gonerural

Muenster, TX

#19 Nov 8, 2006
citizen wrote:
<quoted text>You almost have to have a college degree to get in the military, unlike the so call terrorists, they take anyone. You have to be educated, good young healthy body, no handicaps. The greatest weapon is truth, and we all know weapons are not allowed in government building.
college degree? i think not! a ged is all you need.
gonerural

Muenster, TX

#20 Nov 8, 2006
concernedcitizen76251 wrote:
Finally someone who sees that there is a serious problem at the Montague County S.O.!! Besides the vehicle problem and the captain who will not get out from behind the desk except to smoke .... let's talk about staff who have arrest records! This is the same staff that is allowed in the secure areas of the jail and has acess to confidential information. Where is the 24 hour patrol? The only time I see our deputies out in the community is going to their shift, going to lunch, and going home from their shift. They also drive those county vehicles like they are NASCAR vehicles!! Everytime I drive by the jail, county vehicles are in driveway with the hood up! All that extra wear and tear from the commute to the Metroplex, plus all the deer that the deputies seem to hitting!
<quoted text>
you seem to be spending some serious time in montague. county employee or visiting relatives in jail? or both?

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