Man pleads not guilty in stabbing of ...

Man pleads not guilty in stabbing of top cop's son

There are 46 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 21, 2009, titled Man pleads not guilty in stabbing of top cop's son. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Selden man accused of stabbing Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer's son pleaded not guilty Saturday morning in a Central Islip courtroom as the suspect's three uncles looked on.

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just wondering

Bronx, NY

#1 Mar 21, 2009
I've been to this bar before. The fact that 75% of the crowd is underage and should not be there leads to this unfortunate outcome. Why hasn't anyone brought to light the fact that two of the individuals involved in this fight were underage and should not have been allowed in this bar? Ultimately, that's the key issue here. Revoke the liquor licenses of these bars who serve adolescents and fuel their unnecessary drunken rages. Believe it or not, this is not the only local establishment that caters to 18-20 year old children. It's ridiculous...
wow

South Salem, NY

#2 Mar 21, 2009
Crime is down..
RRR

Bronx, NY

#4 Mar 21, 2009
Amazing. This useless judge and these useless laws that we have may get an animal like Kiernan out on bail when he could have killed two people. The stupid overpaid judge should have set no bail and let the dirtbag remain in jail while he thinks of what he did while he awaits sentencing. There's blood on his hands.
Hugh G Rection

Peekskill, NY

#5 Mar 21, 2009
RRR wrote:
Amazing. This useless judge and these useless laws that we have may get an animal like Kiernan out on bail when he could have killed two people. The stupid overpaid judge should have set no bail and let the dirtbag remain in jail while he thinks of what he did while he awaits sentencing. There's blood on his hands.
And of course the big shot cop's son is totally innocent, like all the other drunken hoodlums hanging out in the wee hours of the night just minding their own business except this one kid who you accuse the judge going soft on without knowing at all what REALLY happened.

Are you this stupid every day?

No chance this kid will get a fair trial with the entire PD all ready to convict him.

And the cop's son is totally innocent, yea right.
WHT

Baldwin, NY

#6 Mar 21, 2009
That area of St James south of 25A is ghetto.....add in some Selden Sludge and this is what you get.
Reality

Old Bridge, NJ

#7 Mar 21, 2009
They said his hands were bandaged in court, not to mention being chased down by onlookers. They must be framing him.

Prince Charming

Charlotte, NC

#8 Mar 21, 2009
He says he didn't do it, so I guess he is innocent
Trxaveling

Parsippany, NJ

#9 Mar 21, 2009
What does daddy's job have to do with the situation? I'm not seeing what makes Junior the innocent here. Hanging out late at night (a work night I must add) up to no good, in a place he shouldn't be and bad things happen? Oh, what a surprise, but it's not his fault. He's a police cheif's kid. Puleeze!!!

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#10 Mar 21, 2009
BRING BACK THE ST. JAMES PUBERY!!!
KirkHere

Elmont, NY

#11 Mar 21, 2009
Newsday is not allowing comments on the Arson/Murder arrest alleging the Lawrence "volunteer firemen" with premeditation and knowi8ng the bhuildiung was occupied set the fire that killed that Mother and 3 children. Therefore I will post this here!

Caleb Lacey, 19, of 212 Mill St. Lawrence, New York.

MURDERER!
MURDERER!
MURDERER!
MURDERER!
KirkHere

Elmont, NY

#12 Mar 21, 2009
The Suffolk Police Commissioner's son hangs out in bars that cater to underage clients?

Doesn't say much for the son or the father.

A father is supposed to teach his child the only thing to be found in a bar is trouble and troublemakers. LOSERS hang out in bars!

Dad didn't teach the lesson and his kid had to learn from experience.
Honch

Nesconset, NY

#13 Mar 21, 2009
Yo, that's like he stabbed Andy Griffith's son Opie. Aunt Bea would be totally P.O.'ed and that's Fo Sho!
Gotta get Fife on this case...
Serena

Chengdu, China

#14 Mar 21, 2009
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PETEF

AOL

#15 Mar 21, 2009
The problem with this case is not whether or not the police commissioner's son contributed to his own stabbing, the problem is that many folks just don't have the confidence that this matter will be handled in a fair and impartial way. That is the way I see it.

The fact that this young man was out drinking in a bar that allegedly caters to underaged drinkers is not relevant to the case at hand. Many of our young people engage in such activity since the time I was a teenager. I can tell you one thing: They (PD) better be telling the truth that this young man is 21, or the sky is going to fall in on them.

What I believe I witnessed by the early reports of this incident is a lack of information. That could only be because there wasn't yet enough time to gather the information.

When more information became available we saw one of those classic photographs of a young man in his best form: A photograph that appears to be that of his Prom Night. I like to call it his 'communion' picture, a kind of photograph newspapers like to use to show the public that the victim was nothing more than a sweet child that was killed by the cops. It makes for more controversy. What I do know that if this was my son I wouldn't provide the Press with his photograph so it could be plastered all over the Media. I wouldn't oblige even if I was The President of the United States. Fathers just don't do that, at least in my part of the world they don't.

What also troubled me was that the PD appeared to withold the name of the assailant until they had to. It makes me thing they were circling the wagons until they could get their stories straight.

What also troubled me that the PD was quick to say that the young man was not part of the fight that resulted in his stabbing. He was painted as a good citizen that came to the aid of his friend, not a participant.

Maybe that is exactly what happened, that is to say, Young Dormer was a sort of hero that came to his friend's aid and not to overpower the alleged stabber as an act in good faith.

This brings me back to the opening statement: The people, or at least some of them have no confidence that this matter will get a fair and full hearing as to what the role of the police commissioner's son played in this.

Is this fair to Young Mr.Dormer, his father, and the police department? Perhaps not, but I didn't create this situation, the police department and the police commissioner did by their long track record of covering up when it suits their needs.

What this case needs is a truly independant prosecutor to investigate. Not one appointed by DA Tom Spota, but a lawyer of impeccable credentials from way outside of the influence of Suffolk County. Anything less than that will cause great distrust of the people.

We have a track record of the prosecutor now involved in this case when he hired on Leonard Lato, and Spota's old crony from the SCPD homicide squad to oversee the Tankleff Case. It was an out and out sham of an investigation that was created to cover the many conflicts of Spota in that case.

That is my opinion.
Pete FF

Gardiner, NY

#16 Mar 21, 2009
Yo, Pete. Nobody gets past your second sentence, bro. Post your War and Peace somewhere else.
wow

South Salem, NY

#17 Mar 21, 2009
What ever happened to a good clean bar fight. Everyone wants to pull a knife or a gun these days. Regardless of who was fighting who started it once you pull a weapon and stab/shoot some one you deserve what ever comes to you. A fight is one thing a stabbing is another...
PAS

Yonkers, NY

#18 Mar 21, 2009
WHT wrote:
That area of St James south of 25A is ghetto.....add in some Selden Sludge and this is what you get.
You live in Lake Grove and talk about St. James being Ghetto?
Jim

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Mar 21, 2009
Trxaveling wrote:
What does daddy's job have to do with the situation? I'm not seeing what makes Junior the innocent here. Hanging out late at night (a work night I must add) up to no good, in a place he shouldn't be and bad things happen? Oh, what a surprise, but it's not his fault. He's a police cheif's kid. Puleeze!!!
He's not a chiefs kid, he's the commissioners kid-and a very very unpopular commissioner at that!
sad

Amityville, NY

#20 Mar 21, 2009
I don't care who his father is. He's 21, entitled to be at a bar at any time of the day or night, and did nothing wrong. He is the victim! Kudos to him for coming to his friend's defense.
I for one am glad both young man are likely to recover without permanent injury.
Jim

Phoenix, AZ

#21 Mar 21, 2009
Oh my, another VOLLIE makes the news!!!!!

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