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Blaming Israel for carnage

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May 14, 2008
 
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

view the first chart on this homepage for details:
http://www.ifamericansknew.com/

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May 15, 2008
 
Boy Scout wrote:
Thanks Healing time, I have always thought in positive terms, such as, my daughter despite her sometimes ignorance was taught to be a decent human being as a child and as she grows, she will be that person, even if she forgets for a time.
I always knew she had a good heart, even when she did wrong things and I have always believed she is ok.
I will trust in your words, because my heart seems weak and I am lost. I will pray you are right and thanks healing time, thanks.
It will be, as you will it to be. And now as you wait, all you can do is strengthen yourself.
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May 15, 2008
 
I know my daughter and she has never done such as this. Thanks to you Healing Time, I will remain committed to her being ok.

I've not told any of the others in my family or friends that she's been missing. Do'nt know what or how to tell them I don't know where my daughter is.

I appreciate your help.

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May 16, 2008
 
Scout, that's a helluva burden to be carrying by yourself. I don't know how strong your family is and if it is capable of absorbing such a shock. But if you feel that it can, then by sharing the truth as you know it will lighten your load.

In a situation like this there are limits to how much anyone can take. If I was in your position I would be extremely shocked, and probably do what you are doing, and that is to keep it to myself. But that does weaken the body, unless you can convert that internal tension to positive action. Sharing that load is often the best way of summoning extra energy and extra help.

It's a family problem, and that should be your first port of call. People like us underestimate the energy that comes from within a group. I hope that will help you, because by getting stronger you are more able to think straight and act straight, and act positively in bringing her back.

Another way of thinking may be to calm your mind, and hope that she can pick up your positive thoughts and come back to them as a homing signal. Whether that works or not, a calmed and peaceful mind will be useful for when she does come back. You obviously have one or two things to fix between you.

Anyways, we're with you and willing you on. It's not much but if you can draw on it then it's all for the good.
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May 17, 2008
 
HealingTime wrote:
Scout, that's a helluva burden to be carrying by yourself. I don't know how strong your family is and if it is capable of absorbing such a shock. But if you feel that it can, then by sharing the truth as you know it will lighten your load.
In a situation like this there are limits to how much anyone can take. If I was in your position I would be extremely shocked, and probably do what you are doing, and that is to keep it to myself. But that does weaken the body, unless you can convert that internal tension to positive action. Sharing that load is often the best way of summoning extra energy and extra help.
It's a family problem, and that should be your first port of call. People like us underestimate the energy that comes from within a group. I hope that will help you, because by getting stronger you are more able to think straight and act straight, and act positively in bringing her back.
Another way of thinking may be to calm your mind, and hope that she can pick up your positive thoughts and come back to them as a homing signal. Whether that works or not, a calmed and peaceful mind will be useful for when she does come back. You obviously have one or two things to fix between you.
Anyways, we're with you and willing you on. It's not much but if you can draw on it then it's all for the good.
They say there's a first time for everything. When my mom died, I tried to give a Eulogy for her. My trembling body denied me such, and while I tried, I did share some of what I felt in those few seconds and my words--as another finished them.

With my daughter, this is different and probably because like you say, things between us. I feel guilty I did not do enough and I should have been a much better dad, that I am embarrassed to go to my family.

Sometimes I watch tv and something makes me start laughing only to hear my laugh turn in the opposite direction.

I can only say thank you for your thoughts, as they help. I can only believe the best for you and yours.

Sincerely,

Jim Ryan
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May 17, 2008
 
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famou...

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Moshe Dayan stated in an oration at the funeral of an Israeli farmer killed by a Palestinian Arab in April 1956:
"... Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived.
We should demand his blood not from the [Palestinian] Arabs of Gaza but from ourselves.... Let us make our reckoning today. We are a generation of settlers, and without the steel helmet and gun barrel, we shall not be able to plant a tree or build a house.... Let us not be afraid to see the hatred that accompanies and consumes the lives of hundreds of thousands of [Palestinian] Arabs who sit all around us and wait for the moment when their hands will be able to reach our blood." (Iron Wall, p. 101) "

God shall uproot israel… no army can stop Him!.

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May 18, 2008
 
Boy Scout wrote:
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They say there's a first time for everything. When my mom died, I tried to give a Eulogy for her. My trembling body denied me such, and while I tried, I did share some of what I felt in those few seconds and my words--as another finished them.
With my daughter, this is different and probably because like you say, things between us. I feel guilty I did not do enough and I should have been a much better dad, that I am embarrassed to go to my family.
Sometimes I watch tv and something makes me start laughing only to hear my laugh turn in the opposite direction.
I can only say thank you for your thoughts, as they help. I can only believe the best for you and yours.
Sincerely,
Jim Ryan
Don't let embarrassment stop you doing what you feel is right. Also remember that everyone is in the same boat as you are. Me, the suckers that write in here, your family, my family ... as the old saying goes, let the one who is totally innocent, cast the first stone. When put in that situation, everyone must accept their share of the collective responsibility.

We're with you Jim, we understand you and we're there all the way until your kid comes back to where she belongs. And when that happens, part of our collective weight will also be lifted.

Best regards, A.
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May 21, 2008
 
israel shall be uprooted by the Lord God Almighty
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When I was twelve years of age, I took a cigar box and I thought of no day time no night time, no air, no vacuum, no atoms, nothing inside the box,not even a blank void, nothing......Then you know what I did, I've try as hard as I could to think of something being created from nothing...Then What conclusion did you think I came too
You got a boner from just thinking about big boobs?
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israel shall be uprooted by the Lord God Almighty
Don't hold your breath, buddy. If you do waiting for this to happen, you will smother. You people are pretty stupid. You have been trying to wipe Israel out for over 3000 years. Hasn't the idea ever entered your heads that the reason you haven't wiped them out is because you are wrong? Wake up! You will never susceed in wiping Israel out. The Lord God Almighty doesn't want Israel wiped out. Only a fanatic would fail to see this.
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<quoted text>Don't hold your breath, buddy. If you do waiting for this to happen, you will smother. You people are pretty stupid. You have been trying to wipe Israel out for over 3000 years.
You might want to consider buying a calendar. Israel has only existed for 60 years!
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mohamed lion of God wrote:
israel shall be uprooted by the Lord God Almighty
Blah.. blah.. Kuwait expelled 400,000 Palestinians for siding with Iraq during the Gulf War.

You are not even a country, more like a family run business since independence in 1961
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#20329
May 29, 2008
 
You anti-Semites need to get a life. israel will be around long after they kick every Arab butt in the Middle East!
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May 30, 2008
 
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You might want to consider buying a calendar. Israel has only existed for 60 years!
Wrong! Israel has only been reinstated as a free nation for 60 years. Israel has existed from back in the BC history. You might want to consider boneing up on your history of the world.
You might want to see if you can find out a little more of the history of Israel on the internet.
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May 31, 2008
 
Ghost Rider wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong! Israel has only been reinstated as a free nation for 60 years. Israel has existed from back in the BC history. You might want to consider boneing up on your history of the world.
You might want to see if you can find out a little more of the history of Israel on the internet.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.

There was no Israel prior to the UN Partition Plan.
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#20334
May 31, 2008
 
The only solution to the problem would be for the Israelis to produce a Moses to lead them into the Red Sea without ofcourse, parting it.
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If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.
There was no Israel prior to the UN Partition Plan.
Hey Mr. Truthiness...great response! I can't say that I have always agreed with your posts or responses but this one is right on!!!
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<quoted text>Wrong! Israel has only been reinstated as a free nation for 60 years. Israel has existed from back in the BC history. You might want to consider boneing up on your history of the world.
You might want to see if you can find out a little more of the history of Israel on the internet.
Wanna go back to school?
Israel is based on mythology man, myth you know. If you ever prove to be a let or hindrance to the United States of America's oil supply instead of being its gendarme that you are now, your country (I'm assuming you are Israeli) will cease to exist before this generation ceases to exist
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May 31, 2008
 
mohamed lion of God wrote:
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
view the first chart on this homepage for details:
http://www.ifamericansknew.com/
Mohamed...excellent post. I have found this website to be an awesome resource too. What is amazing too is that when you look at the data invloving these innocent children (yes...INNOCENT) you will see that most of them were shot in the head by Israeli soldiers. So when people defend Israeli Jews by saying they don't participate in suicide bombings...I argue...they don't have to...they have a government who does it for them...and it gets away with it on the world stage.
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