$21,750 for a demographer?!
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CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#1 Feb 7, 2013
Well, they're at it again folks. The police jurors are spending money they really don't need to be spending nor do they have those funds.

The jurors voted in favor of paying $21,750 to Cedric Floyd, a demographer who will be tasked with creating four districts for the new Home Rule Charter from the current seven of the police jury system. Now that price might not seem so significant if you didnt know that in his original presentation to the police jury, Mr. Floyd stated that the cost for his services PLUS the cost of an attorney his company associates with would be approx.$24,000 if I remember correctly. That same night, the jurors voted to hire a DIFFERENT attorney to handle the legalities and move forward with Mr. Floyd as the demographer. Now, it stands to reason that Mr. Floyd's fee should be significantly reduced since the jury elected NOT to use his attorney friend, right? But no. These concerns were brought up in the last police jury meeting. The jurors voted to table the issue until the district attorney could work out some details with Mr. Floyd.

And let's chat a little about Mr. Floyd. He has stated in public meetings that he doesn't think the current seven districts can be condensed to four. He has stated this in correspondence as well. He has already made up his mind that it can't be done. And guess what? He will tell us he cannot do it, waste valuable time, AND the parish will have to pay him 30 percent of the $21,750, which is $6,525. That has to be paid when the contract is signed. The district attorney even had concerns about the contract, stating that Mr. Floyd could do nothing and the jury would STILL have paid him $6,525! Jurors Percy and Lambert were the only two who had a problem with this issue.

In Sept. 2005, an Associated Press article alleges that Mr. Floyd, acting as the chief administrative office of the suburb of Kenner, had stockpiled hurricane relief supplies at his home following Hurricane Katrina. The supplies were supposed to be distributed to victims of the storm but instead city workers were helping themselves to the supplies. The article states that the stockpile of supplies filled a truck four times before it was all transported to be logged as evidence. Charges of committing an illegal act as a public official were expected to be filed but there were no further articles found. The evidence did exist according to then-attorney general Charles Foti.

I believe there is a reason that jurors Wilson, Young, Kean and Williams are in favor of hiring Mr. Floyd, someone who doesn't even believe the districts can be drawn. These four have been AGAINST the HRC from the beginning. Im not sure what Ms. Howle's reasons are other than voting with her Aunt Lea. If you are going to waste time, take that time to write a request for proposals and hire from a POOL of qualified applicants? This is just a tactic to nullify the HRC by hiring a so-called qualified professional to do a job but sitting back and laughing as that professional tells them it can't be done. "See, we tried to get the districts drawn!" And they're spending OUR money folks!
Crazy

Saint Francisville, LA

#2 Feb 7, 2013
When was this police jury meeting? Why do they need a demographer? Isn't that something that the Home Rule Charter already did before presenting this for a vote to the people?
I would think that the 3 or 4 attorneys on the Home Rule Charter commission would already know the laws about changing the government of this parish. Why do we need to spend more money on more attorneys?
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#3 Feb 8, 2013
The meeting was yesterday at 5:30.

A demographer has to condense the current seven districts down to four as called for by the new HRC.

The HRC Commission is not tasked with creating the districts. They did not have the budget to do this nor did they have the authority.

The attorneys are hired to do the legal work in presenting the plan to the justice department. Again, not something the volunteers, some of which were attorneys, could or should be doing.

I'm not so concerned that the money must be spent, I fully expected it. I'm concerned that the police jury is paying someone to do a job that HE doesn't believe he can do. If I had cancer, I would be a fool to hire a doctor who didn't believe he could cure or at least help me.

The men and women who wrote the HRC document did their level best to create a fair and better form of government. Now members of the police jury want to drown out the people's voice. The voters of West Feliciana spoke clearly and loudly when they passed the HRC. It was passed in October. Get the job done but do it wisely and legally.
Old news

Saint Francisville, LA

#4 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccountability wrote:
The meeting was yesterday at 5:30.
A demographer has to condense the current seven districts down to four as called for by the new HRC.
The HRC Commission is not tasked with creating the districts. They did not have the budget to do this nor did they have the authority.
The attorneys are hired to do the legal work in presenting the plan to the justice department. Again, not something the volunteers, some of which were attorneys, could or should be doing.
I'm not so concerned that the money must be spent, I fully expected it. I'm concerned that the police jury is paying someone to do a job that HE doesn't believe he can do. If I had cancer, I would be a fool to hire a doctor who didn't believe he could cure or at least help me.
The men and women who wrote the HRC document did their level best to create a fair and better form of government. Now members of the police jury want to drown out the people's voice. The voters of West Feliciana spoke clearly and loudly when they passed the HRC. It was passed in October. Get the job done but do it wisely and legally.
Was not a parish president to be elected 90 days after the election?
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#5 Feb 8, 2013
There is some confusion there. I thought that was the case but it turns out that the election cannot be held until the HRC, including the redistricting plan, has been approved by the DOJ. At least that's the way I'm understanding it.
What Meeting

United States

#6 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccountability wrote:
The meeting was yesterday at 5:30.
A demographer has to condense the current seven districts down to four as called for by the new HRC.
The HRC Commission is not tasked with creating the districts. They did not have the budget to do this nor did they have the authority.
The attorneys are hired to do the legal work in presenting the plan to the justice department. Again, not something the volunteers, some of which were attorneys, could or should be doing.
I'm not so concerned that the money must be spent, I fully expected it. I'm concerned that the police jury is paying someone to do a job that HE doesn't believe he can do. If I had cancer, I would be a fool to hire a doctor who didn't believe he could cure or at least help me.
The men and women who wrote the HRC document did their level best to create a fair and better form of government. Now members of the police jury want to drown out the people's voice. The voters of West Feliciana spoke clearly and loudly when they passed the HRC. It was passed in October. Get the job done but do it wisely and legally.
Who was at this meeting? It seems as if you just want to put another delay on the movement of this matter to the Justice system. You said that Mel Percy and Ricky Lambert voted to delay this matter for another month. You appear to have infinite knowledge on this issue. Who is the demographer that you feel can some now change the numbers around to make this plan fit. There are an exact set number of black voters in this parish. The plan will either work in the parish or it won't. It is just a matter of numbers.
It appeared from you original post that you wanted to get a different demographer because the jurors were wasting my money. Now it appears that you just wanted a different demographer because you just don't like Mr. Floyd.
Old Gator

United States

#7 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccountability wrote:
There is some confusion there. I thought that was the case but it turns out that the election cannot be held until the HRC, including the redistricting plan, has been approved by the DOJ. At least that's the way I'm understanding it.


Correct, the election of a PP 90 days after the elections results were certified was a bit overly advantageous. They were advised to get the redistricting done first to prevent further complications.

They shuold probably just wait and hold all elections at the end of the current jurors terms. Which would be what? 2015?
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#8 Feb 8, 2013
What Meeting wrote:
<quoted text>
Who was at this meeting? It seems as if you just want to put another delay on the movement of this matter to the Justice system. You said that Mel Percy and Ricky Lambert voted to delay this matter for another month. You appear to have infinite knowledge on this issue. Who is the demographer that you feel can some now change the numbers around to make this plan fit. There are an exact set number of black voters in this parish. The plan will either work in the parish or it won't. It is just a matter of numbers.
It appeared from you original post that you wanted to get a different demographer because the jurors were wasting my money. Now it appears that you just wanted a different demographer because you just don't like Mr. Floyd.
I definitely DO NOT want to delay any longer than necessary. My problem is with hiring someone who has stated on more than one occasion that he doesn't think the redistricting can be done. I think the fee is a little high as well although I'll admit I have no expertise in this arena.

In my opinion, a request for proposals should have been written for an attorney and a demographer as soon as the elections results were complete. At least we would have had more than one person applying for the job. I understand the money has to be spent. It seems high and I don't have faith that he will provide what he is being hired to do. I hope I am wrong.
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#9 Feb 8, 2013
Old Gator wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, the election of a PP 90 days after the elections results were certified was a bit overly advantageous. They were advised to get the redistricting done first to prevent further complications.
They shuold probably just wait and hold all elections at the end of the current jurors terms. Which would be what? 2015?
I do not agree with waiting until the current terms are expired to hold an election for PP. The quicker we get this HRC off the ground the better off our parish will be.
Half Truths

United States

#10 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccountability wrote:
Well, they're at it again folks. The police jurors are spending money they really don't need to be spending nor do they have those funds.
The jurors voted in favor of paying $21,750 to Cedric Floyd, a demographer who will be tasked with creating four districts for the new Home Rule Charter from the current seven of the police jury system. Now that price might not seem so significant if you didnt know that in his original presentation to the police jury, Mr. Floyd stated that the cost for his services PLUS the cost of an attorney his company associates with would be approx.$24,000 if I remember correctly. That same night, the jurors voted to hire a DIFFERENT attorney to handle the legalities and move forward with Mr. Floyd as the demographer. Now, it stands to reason that Mr. Floyd's fee should be significantly reduced since the jury elected NOT to use his attorney friend, right? But no. These concerns were brought up in the last police jury meeting. The jurors voted to table the issue until the district attorney could work out some details with Mr. Floyd.
And let's chat a little about Mr. Floyd. He has stated in public meetings that he doesn't think the current seven districts can be condensed to four. He has stated this in correspondence as well. He has already made up his mind that it can't be done. And guess what? He will tell us he cannot do it, waste valuable time, AND the parish will have to pay him 30 percent of the $21,750, which is $6,525. That has to be paid when the contract is signed. The district attorney even had concerns about the contract, stating that Mr. Floyd could do nothing and the jury would STILL have paid him $6,525! Jurors Percy and Lambert were the only two who had a problem with this issue.
In Sept. 2005, an Associated Press article alleges that Mr. Floyd, acting as the chief administrative office of the suburb of Kenner, had stockpiled hurricane relief supplies at his home following Hurricane Katrina. The supplies were supposed to be distributed to victims of the storm but instead city workers were helping themselves to the supplies. The article states that the stockpile of supplies filled a truck four times before it was all transported to be logged as evidence. Charges of committing an illegal act as a public official were expected to be filed but there were no further articles found. The evidence did exist according to then-attorney general Charles Foti.
I believe there is a reason that jurors Wilson, Young, Kean and Williams are in favor of hiring Mr. Floyd, someone who doesn't even believe the districts can be drawn. These four have been AGAINST the HRC from the beginning. Im not sure what Ms. Howle's reasons are other than voting with her Aunt Lea. If you are going to waste time, take that time to write a request for proposals and hire from a POOL of qualified applicants? This is just a tactic to nullify the HRC by hiring a so-called qualified professional to do a job but sitting back and laughing as that professional tells them it can't be done. "See, we tried to get the districts drawn!" And they're spending OUR money folks!
Google: Cederick Floyd sues Kenner police.
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#11 Feb 8, 2013
Here ya go...

http://blog.nola.com/kenner/2006/10/floyd_sue...

The supplies were to go to a church just down the road from him.
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#12 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#13 Feb 8, 2013

“Fresh Air”

Since: Jan 11

Saint Francisville

#14 Feb 8, 2013
If half the stuff on here is true, it is a travesty. The HRC passed the election. Everything possible to implement it a soon as possible should have been done. Whether or not the sitting jurors were is favor of it does not matter. The people have spoken. Have their voices fallen on deaf ears - again?
Old Gator

Lafayette, LA

#15 Feb 8, 2013
CitizenForAccountability wrote:
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I do not agree with waiting until the current terms are expired to hold an election for PP. The quicker we get this HRC off the ground the better off our parish will be.
Just curious, what do you think the benifit would be by having a PP before the first council election? I would just think it would cause more confusion than it's worth. Not trying to argue , honestly curious
WF Citizen

United States

#16 Feb 8, 2013
Old Gator wrote:
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Just curious, what do you think the benifit would be by having a PP before the first council election? I would just think it would cause more confusion than it's worth. Not trying to argue , honestly curious
Call me crazy but I want the HEC rules in place NOW! That includes the PP. Just my preference. I am so weary of this police jury. They all claimed they would be better than the last but I see them doing the same things.
Confused

Breaux Bridge, LA

#17 Feb 8, 2013
Don't district lines have to be continuous and insure that both majority/ minority are equally represented?
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#18 Feb 8, 2013
Old Gator wrote:
<quoted text>
Just curious, what do you think the benifit would be by having a PP before the first council election? I would just think it would cause more confusion than it's worth. Not trying to argue , honestly curious
The PP position is an integral part of the HRC working in my opinion. He/she will be responsible for a lot but with oversight from the Parish Council (PJ until the new elections). Better to get the kinks worked out in the PP before more develop with a new parish council. Just my views.
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#19 Feb 8, 2013
Confused wrote:
Don't district lines have to be continuous and insure that both majority/ minority are equally represented?
Your questions is more of a statement so I assume you know quite a bit about the HRC. What is your opinion...one way or another? My opinion is that it CAN be done. It won't be easy but it can be done.
CitizenForAccoun tability

Saint Francisville, LA

#20 Feb 8, 2013
WF Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Call me crazy but I want the HEC rules in place NOW! That includes the PP. Just my preference. I am so weary of this police jury. They all claimed they would be better than the last but I see them doing the same things.
I agree with you. I too am tired of the shanigans of this police jury.

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