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West Fel Proud

Denham Springs, LA

#1 Aug 18, 2011
SAM LEBLANC, SAMMY BOUGEUS, JACK HANEMANN, WALTER OLIVEAUX.
In the most recent Letter to the Editor these Foolish Foursome continue to express their childish temper tantrums because they did not get their way. These four have been put on every board that Ken Dawson and Ambrose Sims have controlled. To suggest that our own business owners and citizens do not have the best interest of this parish at heart is ridiculous. These 4 continue to try to spout their gloom and doom and put negative spin on what has made this parish great. How funny that these 4 paid Thomas Keene thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to create a "Mission Statement" for their little Study Commission. They just keep giving the very limited parish money away.
Their attacks on the St. Francisville Chamber and Tourist Commission is mean spirited and unwarranted. They would rather give our Economic Development money to the Baton Rouge Chamber and condemn our own volunteer SF Chamber members.
Jack Hanneman has been one of the forces steady spending the ED money -- he's the chairman of the Port Commission, you know. He does not want our own smart business leaders taking control of the parish's development dollars.
Ken and Sims and their chosen 4 commission members
Skid Pan Sammy (Bougeus), Slick Lawyer Sam LeBlanc,
Lowlobbyist Jack Hanemann and Charlie Brown Walter Oliveaux are the same ones who are in the process of creating our new form of government. Do you really want these 4 creating our parish government???? I am very concerned about the power repeatedly bestowed on them by Dawson, Shoemake and Sims.
These are the same 4 who are members of the Home Rule Charter commission. Pay close attention. Just because these 4 present it to the voters does not mean it is the right choice for our parish. Does anyone really know anything about these guys? What makes them the authority on what is best for our Parish???
New Guy in SF

French Settlement, LA

#2 Aug 18, 2011
From my understanding and reading of the minutes in the Democrat they are not the only ones on the HRC commission. Are they all corrupt as you believe these four are?
curious

Denham Springs, LA

#3 Aug 18, 2011
West Fel Proud wrote:
SAM LEBLANC, SAMMY BOUGEUS, JACK HANEMANN, WALTER OLIVEAUX.
In the most recent Letter to the Editor these Foolish Foursome continue to express their childish temper tantrums because they did not get their way. These four have been put on every board that Ken Dawson and Ambrose Sims have controlled. To suggest that our own business owners and citizens do not have the best interest of this parish at heart is ridiculous. These 4 continue to try to spout their gloom and doom and put negative spin on what has made this parish great. How funny that these 4 paid Thomas Keene thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to create a "Mission Statement" for their little Study Commission. They just keep giving the very limited parish money away.
Their attacks on the St. Francisville Chamber and Tourist Commission is mean spirited and unwarranted. They would rather give our Economic Development money to the Baton Rouge Chamber and condemn our own volunteer SF Chamber members.
Jack Hanneman has been one of the forces steady spending the ED money -- he's the chairman of the Port Commission, you know. He does not want our own smart business leaders taking control of the parish's development dollars.
Ken and Sims and their chosen 4 commission members
Skid Pan Sammy (Bougeus), Slick Lawyer Sam LeBlanc,
Lowlobbyist Jack Hanemann and Charlie Brown Walter Oliveaux are the same ones who are in the process of creating our new form of government. Do you really want these 4 creating our parish government???? I am very concerned about the power repeatedly bestowed on them by Dawson, Shoemake and Sims.
These are the same 4 who are members of the Home Rule Charter commission. Pay close attention. Just because these 4 present it to the voters does not mean it is the right choice for our parish. Does anyone really know anything about these guys? What makes them the authority on what is best for our Parish???
Is this the same Hanemann previously employed by the Port of New Orleans? If so did no one think to investigate his history there before appointing him to his current position??
Old Guy in SF

New Iberia, LA

#4 Aug 19, 2011
New Guy in SF wrote:
From my understanding and reading of the minutes in the Democrat they are not the only ones on the HRC commission. Are they all corrupt as you believe these four are?
Yes! They are all corrupt! If they are elected, serve on a board, volunteer, or think we need jobs and growth, they are obviously corrupt!
The big test, and by far most important, is that if they don't agree with me they are obviously corrupt, because I am an Old Guy in SF and I obviously know what should be done and not done for MY Town.
New Guy in SF

French Settlement, LA

#5 Aug 19, 2011
Old Guy in SF wrote:
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Yes! They are all corrupt! If they are elected, serve on a board, volunteer, or think we need jobs and growth, they are obviously corrupt!
The big test, and by far most important, is that if they don't agree with me they are obviously corrupt, because I am an Old Guy in SF and I obviously know what should be done and not done for MY Town.
I am assuming sarcasm Old Guy but really it would appear (and this is from someone who has only been here a short while) that from comments and articles in both the Democrat, the Advocate and here that the current governing body in the parish is broke and that a new form is desired how else do we fix it?
Concerned

Breaux Bridge, LA

#6 Aug 19, 2011
Old Guy in SF wrote:
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Yes! They are all corrupt! If they are elected, serve on a board, volunteer, or think we need jobs and growth, they are obviously corrupt!
The big test, and by far most important, is that if they don't agree with me they are obviously corrupt, because I am an Old Guy in SF and I obviously know what should be done and not done for MY Town.
And aren't we lucky to have the same bunch of loud-mouthed opinionated bullies and displaced urbanites who know so much better than we do how we should be living and progressing here?
West Fel Proud

Denham Springs, LA

#7 Aug 19, 2011
curious wrote:
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Is this the same Hanemann previously employed by the Port of New Orleans? If so did no one think to investigate his history there before appointing him to his current position??
Please share more information his involvment with Port of New Orleans. If you can not say, can you at least lead us in the right direction. I have googled Hanemann and New Orleans port commission but nothing comes up. Can you give us a little clue.
Keeping it Real

Denham Springs, LA

#8 Aug 19, 2011
Just so everyone can actually READ what was written instead of someone INSINUATING something...

http://www.felicianatoday.com/...

My two cents:
I think the study committee's survey results were on the money. I do not think it was biased. I think a lot of folks in this parish are fed up with the decline in the economy both nationally and locally. Our parish officials do not have that much to do with the national scene but they had better get off their fat bottoms and find a way to stimulate growth in our neck of the woods. I think the former CDF was a waste of time and more importantly, money. However, I think it can be done if done correctly and with the right people involved.

I think that the study committee's recommendation to the jury was appropriate. The group wanted people with "skin in the game" and that's why they recommended appointing representatives from the taxing bodies. Who else wants growth more than the people who benefit from the growth?

I disagree with the police jury's decision to appoint a representative from the chamber and the tourist commission. In my eyes, anyone who receives funding from the ED taxes should not have a say so on how those funds are allocated. Maybe I'm wrong but that's kinda like putting the fox in the hen house. No I am not accusing anyone of stealing. I am leary of the funds being allocated for the wrong things though.

I guess I should prepare myself for the onslaught of name-calling and ridicule for having stated my opinion but I really don't care. I'll just sit back and watch as you play your grade-school games and continue to bully people.
WEParish Tax Payer

United States

#9 Aug 19, 2011
Keeping it Real wrote:
Just so everyone can actually READ what was written instead of someone INSINUATING something...
http://www.felicianatoday.com/...
My two cents:
I think the study committee's survey results were on the money. I do not think it was biased. I think a lot of folks in this parish are fed up with the decline in the economy both nationally and locally. Our parish officials do not have that much to do with the national scene but they had better get off their fat bottoms and find a way to stimulate growth in our neck of the woods. I think the former CDF was a waste of time and more importantly, money. However, I think it can be done if done correctly and with the right people involved.
I think that the study committee's recommendation to the jury was appropriate. The group wanted people with "skin in the game" and that's why they recommended appointing representatives from the taxing bodies. Who else wants growth more than the people who benefit from the growth?
I disagree with the police jury's decision to appoint a representative from the chamber and the tourist commission. In my eyes, anyone who receives funding from the ED taxes should not have a say so on how those funds are allocated. Maybe I'm wrong but that's kinda like putting the fox in the hen house. No I am not accusing anyone of stealing. I am leary of the funds being allocated for the wrong things though.
I guess I should prepare myself for the onslaught of name-calling and ridicule for having stated my opinion but I really don't care. I'll just sit back and watch as you play your grade-school games and continue to bully people.
I agree with you completely. Appointing members to the committee from the C of C and the tourist commission is the same as Ken Dawson being paid by RBS. Good Lord, will we ever learn? I guess I, too, will be attacked and I really don't give a damn. Ever notice that Bill Depew refused to answer what Ken Dawson did to EARN his salary from RBS? And now we're expected to sit back and await the in-put from the self-serving individuals in the tourist commission and the C of C. All you have to do is look at their past track records (C of C and tourist commission). Notice I didn't mention anything about RBS/Bill Depew/ Ken Dawson. This is the classic West Feliciana public screwing we've come to expect, and honestly deserve.
Concerned

Breaux Bridge, LA

#10 Aug 19, 2011
And you think representatives from the sheriff's dept., hospital board, school board, etc., are experts on economic development? They may be very good at what they do, I'm not saying they're not, but they may not know beans about running businesses or attracting growth, and why should they? The people who have investments in the area are the ones who have the most to gain from attracting other businesses; they do not see growth as competition but as an incentive to grow ALL of the business community. There's no need to put the present businesses out of business, and there's no need to be suspicious of business owners and investors in the community who might actually know what they're doing. It is ludicrous to exclude the business community from development planning.
Shameful Foolish Four

United States

#11 Aug 19, 2011
Keeping it Real wrote:
Just so everyone can actually READ what was written instead of someone INSINUATING something...
http://www.felicianatoday.com/...
My two cents:
I think the study committee's survey results were on the money. I do not think it was biased. I think a lot of folks in this parish are fed up with the decline in the economy both nationally and locally. Our parish officials do not have that much to do with the national scene but they had better get off their fat bottoms and find a way to stimulate growth in our neck of the woods. I think the former CDF was a waste of time and more importantly, money. However, I think it can be done if done correctly and with the right people involved.
I think that the study committee's recommendation to the jury was appropriate. The group wanted people with "skin in the game" and that's why they recommended appointing representatives from the taxing bodies. Who else wants growth more than the people who benefit from the growth?
I disagree with the police jury's decision to appoint a representative from the chamber and the tourist commission. In my eyes, anyone who receives funding from the ED taxes should not have a say so on how those funds are allocated. Maybe I'm wrong but that's kinda like putting the fox in the hen house. No I am not accusing anyone of stealing. I am leary of the funds being allocated for the wrong things though.
I guess I should prepare myself for the onslaught of name-calling and ridicule for having stated my opinion but I really don't care. I'll just sit back and watch as you play your grade-school games and continue to bully people.
This tax was voted on by the people of this parish to give to the Tourist Commission to PROMOTE TOURISM. It is not a grand prize for some high school talent show. It was for MARKETING by the Tourist Commission and for the MARKETING of this Parish. It is a small amount of money Less than $300,000. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE PREMISE OF A DEDICATED TAX????
$85,000 was dedicated to the Tourist Commission.
A tiny group of parish politicians with the CDF director have been using the money to take trips to Las Vegas and Beau Rivage Biloxi saying they needed the Tourism money to attend Shopping Center Conventions (ISCS).. Don't be fooled.
To now suggest that we need the Sheriff and Fire Chief to tell the Tourist Commission whether or not they need marketing dollars to promote tourism is Foolish... FOOLISH FOOLISH FOUR...

This would be no different than taking the Fire Boards' tax money and allowoing the Tourism Board to determine if they should be allowed to purchase a firetruck. Now that makes perfect sense to me. Now there's an educated decision: Allow the Tourist Commission to control the funds for the Sheriff and the Fire Department... Why would we let the Sheriff department determine how to use the Sheriff's tax money - it would be more logical to develop a Tourism board to determine that use of Sheriff's money.

After this Econ Deve. Study Board spent almost all of the Tourist commission's little $85,000 doing their studies ($35,000 for Thomas Keene, the Study board's facilitator,$10,0000 for Survey,$8,000 for who knows what,$7,000 for graphic designs and videos) they have now determined they do not want the tourist commission involved in their own decision making... Come on people... are ya'll falling asleep at the wheel. We better start standing up for our own.

You just as easily could have said "anyone who receives funding from the SHERIFF'S taxes should not have a say so on how those funds are allocated. Maybe I'm wrong but that's kinda like putting the fox in the hen house."
New Guy in SF

French Settlement, LA

#12 Aug 19, 2011
Interesting perspectives from all. I tell you Louisiana politics are interesting to say the least. I have never been exposed to the "Police Jury" form of local governing. Having an avid interest in government I am trying to absorb all the differences in Louisiana politics vice say,,,the rest of the free world. It does seem like the Police Jury system is antiquated and needs updating. My hope is that the HRC is not composed of the same type individuals. In reference to the current discussion my 2 cents, for what it is worth, I agree with many on here on the composition of the current EDC. I would have suggested business leaders and voters (who own real estate)in the area. Everyone who owns property in the borders of this Parish has a stake in this because economic development means higher land value or at least retaining land value. I say this as I am currently looking for a home to buy and am waiting to see if values stabilize or go down.
More Info Please

United States

#13 Aug 19, 2011
curious wrote:
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Is this the same Hanemann previously employed by the Port of New Orleans? If so did no one think to investigate his history there before appointing him to his current position??
I would like some more information on this Jack Henemann. What is his history with the New Orleans Port Commission. He was a board member of this Port Commission.

He is the Chairman of the WF Port Commission Board
He is the Chairman of the Economic Devel Study Board
He is the Chairman of the Home Rule Charter Board
He is advisor to Ambrose Sims at Executive Committee Meetings
Did I miss any boards that he is appointed to?

He has a strong dislike for the Tourist Commission. He has a strong dislike of the St. Francisville Chamber

He was a strong supporter of Steve Jones but an staunch critic of the CDF Board for firing Steve Jones.
Old Guy in SF

Saint Francisville, LA

#14 Aug 19, 2011
New Guy in SF wrote:
Interesting perspectives from all. I tell you Louisiana politics are interesting to say the least. I have never been exposed to the "Police Jury" form of local governing. Having an avid interest in government I am trying to absorb all the differences in Louisiana politics vice say,,,the rest of the free world. It does seem like the Police Jury system is antiquated and needs updating. My hope is that the HRC is not composed of the same type individuals. In reference to the current discussion my 2 cents, for what it is worth, I agree with many on here on the composition of the current EDC. I would have suggested business leaders and voters (who own real estate)in the area. Everyone who owns property in the borders of this Parish has a stake in this because economic development means higher land value or at least retaining land value. I say this as I am currently looking for a home to buy and am waiting to see if values stabilize or go down.
Good post! In my opinion the PJ system is part of the problem, however the major problem is the pool of public officials, There are very few if any, competent people who are available to run, and hold office. If your livelihood depends on citizens in the community for sales or support, it is a death blow to your business to run, much less hold office. So what do you end up with? Old retired natives, or people who are in office for the base salary and what they can generate financially for their influence. Even if their heart is in the right place and their intentions are good, their entire life experience is obtained within the boarders of West Feliciana. There is a discussion on another thread about how to spend the ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT millage, if your a native, Economic Development in this parish has always and forever and should remain tourism. That worked for the past 25 tears, because there was a cash cow, called River Bend. That cow has gone and the old school is not willing to accept new direction for revenue and jobs. A lot of funerals and some new young talented people will eventually make adjustments, it may however br too late.
New Old Guy in SF

Denham Springs, LA

#15 Aug 19, 2011
I'm beginning to think you two may be one in the same or 2 peas in a pod.
Perhaps you are even the part of the Negative Foolish Foursome who are trying to push your agenda to change everything in this parish and small town.
You put down the Chmber, put down the Tourist Commission, put down our hard work -
Now we hear your repeated benders on River Bend -- sounds just like the good ole Ambrose Sims crowd to me....
Doom and gloom - it's going to be too late for this parish. Blah, Blah, Blah.
What you don't know is that this place was great before the Nuclear Plant. It is great with the Nuclear plant. It's just a great place.
WF will be great without the negative talk from the likes of Hanneman, Boegus and LeBlanc. Sims is almost gone. Just a few more months of Shoemake, Roach and Dawson and we can "move" him on down the road.
Oliveaux is just a foolish bafoon who has been given a megaphone by Dawson and Sims. The "old school folks" around here take care of our village idiots like him.
Hopefully the other 3 fools will move on down the road to bring their negative talk to some other unwitting town.
New Guy in SF

French Settlement, LA

#16 Aug 19, 2011
New Old Guy in SF wrote:
I'm beginning to think you two may be one in the same or 2 peas in a pod.
Perhaps you are even the part of the Negative Foolish Foursome who are trying to push your agenda to change everything in this parish and small town.
You put down the Chmber, put down the Tourist Commission, put down our hard work -
Now we hear your repeated benders on River Bend -- sounds just like the good ole Ambrose Sims crowd to me....
Doom and gloom - it's going to be too late for this parish. Blah, Blah, Blah.
What you don't know is that this place was great before the Nuclear Plant. It is great with the Nuclear plant. It's just a great place.
WF will be great without the negative talk from the likes of Hanneman, Boegus and LeBlanc. Sims is almost gone. Just a few more months of Shoemake, Roach and Dawson and we can "move" him on down the road.
Oliveaux is just a foolish bafoon who has been given a megaphone by Dawson and Sims. The "old school folks" around here take care of our village idiots like him.
Hopefully the other 3 fools will move on down the road to bring their negative talk to some other unwitting town.
Are you including me in this,,,look I am just trying to get perspective and never was trying to insinuate anything nor trying to start a fight. I am a new guy just trying to get the lay of the land here in. Really just trying to have a civilized discussion and I apoligize for upsetting you.

Since: Aug 11

Saint Francisville, LA

#17 Aug 20, 2011
New Guy in SF wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you including me in this,,,look I am just trying to get perspective and never was trying to insinuate anything nor trying to start a fight. I am a new guy just trying to get the lay of the land here in. Really just trying to have a civilized discussion and I apoligize for upsetting you.
Good luck with that!
Alex

Denham Springs, LA

#18 Aug 20, 2011
Bottom line, we need industry growth in this parish. This will create good jobs with benefits that will in turn bring middle class families increasing our tax base. In time retail growth will follow. There are numerous state incentives to attract industry to Louisiana, and with our location on the river WF should be an attractive option. If we continue to put our faith in the likes of Jones, Dawson, Oliveaux, etc. we will never see any of this growth. Hopefully we will elect a State Representative who will be capable of bringing corporations to this area and when they get here they donít turn and run when they meet or local governing body; whatever it may be.
american

United States

#19 Aug 20, 2011
West Fel Proud wrote:
SAM LEBLANC, SAMMY BOUGEUS, JACK HANEMANN, WALTER OLIVEAUX.
In the most recent Letter to the Editor these Foolish Foursome continue to express their childish temper tantrums because they did not get their way. These four have been put on every board that Ken Dawson and Ambrose Sims have controlled. To suggest that our own business owners and citizens do not have the best interest of this parish at heart is ridiculous. These 4 continue to try to spout their gloom and doom and put negative spin on what has made this parish great. How funny that these 4 paid Thomas Keene thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to create a "Mission Statement" for their little Study Commission. They just keep giving the very limited parish money away.
Their attacks on the St. Francisville Chamber and Tourist Commission is mean spirited and unwarranted. They would rather give our Economic Development money to the Baton Rouge Chamber and condemn our own volunteer SF Chamber members.
Jack Hanneman has been one of the forces steady spending the ED money -- he's the chairman of the Port Commission, you know. He does not want our own smart business leaders taking control of the parish's development dollars.
Ken and Sims and their chosen 4 commission members
Skid Pan Sammy (Bougeus), Slick Lawyer Sam LeBlanc,
Lowlobbyist Jack Hanemann and Charlie Brown Walter Oliveaux are the same ones who are in the process of creating our new form of government. Do you really want these 4 creating our parish government???? I am very concerned about the power repeatedly bestowed on them by Dawson, Shoemake and Sims.
These are the same 4 who are members of the Home Rule Charter commission. Pay close attention. Just because these 4 present it to the voters does not mean it is the right choice for our parish. Does anyone really know anything about these guys? What makes them the authority on what is best for our Parish???
I give it 1 year West Feliciana Parish will be No Horse Parrish Greed is the Problem
Lady wondering

Haughton, LA

#20 Aug 20, 2011
Shameful Foolish Four:
Actually no, the tax we are referring to is an ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TAX and the last time I checked it was not dedicated to tourism. Although I will agree that tourism is a vital part of the economy of West Feliciana Parish, there are a great number of other viable businesses that could locate to the town or the parish. If we sit back on our duffs and wait for them to come to us, we'll die in our own excretions. Business has to be courted. We have to make our parish attractive to business so that they want to locate here. In order to do that, the EDC has to decide if an individual or group should be hired to do the job.

Let there be no mistake, West Feliciana needs economic growth to maintain what we have now. Say what you will but River Bend provided the parish with funds to improve infrastructure and the way of life for it's residents. Those funds are slowly slipping down the drain. NEW development is needed to take up the slack. New business does not have to be directly related to tourism. Retail would be a good start and could be attractive to both residents and tourists.

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