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School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#1 Mar 16, 2010
Please VOTE YES on March 27th for BOTH of the proposed school taxes! The school system desperately needs these funds to continue being one of the best in the state. And the parish desperately needs the school system to succeed. Thanks!
Louise

United States

#2 Mar 16, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
Please VOTE YES on March 27th for BOTH of the proposed school taxes! The school system desperately needs these funds to continue being one of the best in the state. And the parish desperately needs the school system to succeed. Thanks!
How in the hell can you ask us to vote for two propositions to justify the manner in which the school board has recently squanded away a very large amount of money. I will welcome your response and am prepared to ask numerous questions backed by public information facts to which you had best be prepared to respond. Yes/Yes...my God, my friends...No/No!!!!!
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#3 Mar 17, 2010
Please provide YOUR facts on what money was squandered away.

This is NOT a tax to increase funds in the school system. It is simply to keep it where it is at now. If it does not pass, I can guarantee that the entire parish will suffer. If you have to lay off as many as 50 people they will have to seek jobs elswere. The money they spend with local business owners will go with them. You will also see an large increase in classroom sizes, which WILL lead to a lower performing school district. That means less money from grants and special projects. Which will lead to more layoffs. A lower performing school will mean that there will be no new families moving in, and more current residents moving out. Again, less money supporting your local business owners. So, these business owners will be forced to shutdown leaving old abandoned buildings with weeds growing all around them. This will lead to less sales tax revenue for the parish to pay for any types of improvements. This will bring down the property value of every land/home owner in the parish.

People move to the area for 2 reasons:#1 to send their children to one of the top school districts in the state and #2 to retire. If you compare the amount of money spent on the school system in this parish(from tax revenue) to others, you will see there is a big difference. It truly is amazing what the school leaders and educators have been able to do with the amount of funds they receive.

Without a top notch school system, this parish will turn into a wasteland! Do you really want to drive around town looking at ruined businesses and homes that aren't being kept up? The future of the parish is in the hands and minds of the children coming through the school system. If you care about these kids, and the parish, it should be easy to see that everyone MUST support the system. Please feel free to contact a teacher at a low performing school and ask them what their lives are like. Ask a parent that has a child in a classroom with 35 students if they enjoy sending them to that type of environment. Look at the graduation rates of these schools. Look at the areas that surround these schools. Then decide if you want to be like them.
Louise

United States

#4 Mar 17, 2010
Your response is so off point that I will not pose the numerous questions we have in that you will not be able to respond responsibly; but, let's test the waters:

1. Who has paid for the 4 color direct mail piece many of us recently received, the newspaper ads, the yard signs. Name names and amounts paid for the above. This is public information, you know. Don't know, then find out before you respond.

2. Numerous posters have asked re. the atheletic director as to what he directs and his total salary package. If you don't know then you need to find out about this before asking us to vote for a sales tax and property tax increase.

3. Pay raises...this also should be public information. What raises were given, the date of the raises and the dollar amounts.

4. The direct mail piece stated that an increase in sales tax and property taxes are needed because of reduced income from Entergy, Timbec and because of the current economic situation. When did this come as a surprise to the school board? Everyone else knew for years that this day was forthcoming. Why didn't the school board hang onto some of the surplus funds?

There are many, MANY more serious financial question that I could pose, and I will, if you or someone else will answer the above questions without any name-calling or other stuff like..."if you really care our kids...or do you want to see the parish turned into a wasteland...etc.

I truly love West Feliciana Parish but I'll be damned if I will sit back and not oppose two propositions which are financially unfounded. The school board had ample surplus money but squandered it away and are now coming to us with thinly veiled financial threats about a future doomsday prediction unless we vote to bail-out their dumb asses.

Here's a unique idea, publish a financial statement for the past two years and be sure to indicate what each line item entailed. Bet you won't because it would blow your shallow arguement right out of the bucket.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#5 Mar 17, 2010
From: "Louise"
Your response is so off point that I will not pose the numerous questions we have in that you will not be able to respond responsibly; but, let's test the waters:
1. Who has paid for the 4 color direct mail piece many of us recently received, the newspaper ads, the yard signs. Name names and amounts paid for the above. This is public information, you know. Don't know, then find out before you respond.

The yard signs are being sold to anyone that wants one, not being handed out for free. They are either $5 or $10 each, but I don't remember the exact amount. Donations were collected from anyone willing to give it to pay for the mailings and ads. I have my own personal money invested in it, so I know that is what is happening.
2. Numerous posters have asked re. the atheletic director as to what he directs and his total salary package. If you don't know then you need to find out about this before asking us to vote for a sales tax and property tax increase.

This tax has NOTHING to do with paying salaries. The only affect it has on salaries is for those people that would lose their jobs without it. It is also not being asked for to buy anything special for athletics.
3. Pay raises...this also should be public information. What raises were given, the date of the raises and the dollar amounts.

This is public information. You must not read the newspaper. Anytime a pay raise is given you will see an article about it. All Parish pay scales can be found on the Dept of Ed website if you would like to see it. You can compare all public school systems in the state. With a little more effort you can find pay scales for other states as well. Yes, the WF teachers did receive a raise a couple years ago, but it was necessary to try and stay competitive. And yes it was public knowledge what the amount of the raises were. These raises are also voted on in school board meetings which are open to the public.
4. The direct mail piece stated that an increase in sales tax and property taxes are needed because of reduced income from Entergy, Timbec and because of the current economic situation. When did this come as a surprise to the school board? Everyone else knew for years that this day was forthcoming. Why didn't the school board hang onto some of the surplus funds?

It involves more than those items. The school system is also receiving less money from the state MFP fund. The state is already cutting the funds they normally dispense, and with a drop in enrollment over the past couple of years that also reduces the amount of money the parish receives. You have the leading school district in the state right down the road from you. They are spending the money to build up their schools to compete with the rest of the NATION, not just in this state. Just like in a business, you have to keep up with your competitors if you want to remain in business. If you sit back and do nothing, you will soon have nothing. If the nearby schools are developing a better curriculum and paying for better teachers, your good teachers and good students will flock to these schools. You also have to think of items that come up that the schools must pay for that are not budgeted for. Example..You have to pay for gas for your vehicle. When the price of gas goes up, your budget changes and you have to pay more. If you then don't have the funds to continue paying for gas AND food, you have to find a way to get more money. You as a person can take on a second job if needed. Schools can't do this. They have to go to the public for funding.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#6 Mar 17, 2010
This is not directed at you, but it always amazes me when people look for reasons NOT to support their school system. That is the core of your community. I'd rather have a Grade A school and have to drive down a road with pot holes any day. My kids mean everthing to me and I want them to have twice the life I've had. A great education and a support system that truly cares for them is essential to their future. Remember, your kids are at school more than they are at home. Don't you want them to be surrounded by the best there is to offer?
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#7 Mar 18, 2010
Here is an intersting read from today.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35883971/ns/us_ne...

This will help shed some light on what's happening to school systems across the nation. Please support your local school system!
NONO voter

United States

#8 Mar 18, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
Here is an intersting read from today.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35883971/ns/us_ne...
This will help shed some light on what's happening to school systems across the nation. Please support your local school system!
To hell with the rest of the nation. I am worried about west fel. par. and will vote NO/NO. As I uunderstand it they had the money but had to go ahead and spend ALL OF IT. I have supported the school system except in this case. Give them a few extra bucks and they have to go ahead and spend all of it. Just like some other social recipients. NO/NO to more benefits for a wasteful school board.
NO NO voter

United States

#9 Mar 18, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
This is not directed at you, but it always amazes me when people look for reasons NOT to support their school system. That is the core of your community. I'd rather have a Grade A school and have to drive down a road with pot holes any day. My kids mean everthing to me and I want them to have twice the life I've had. A great education and a support system that truly cares for them is essential to their future. Remember, your kids are at school more than they are at home. Don't you want them to be surrounded by the best there is to offer?
You fail to understand the difference between our school system and our school board. Our school system is great. Our school board has wasted so much money that they now have to come back to us for continued financial backing. Were the truth known to the average voter as to the expenditures of the school board in less than public forums, the two taxes would overwhelmingly fail. Its like a boss (the school board) of a very successful business (our school system)spending excessive amounts in various (numerous) areas. The business thrives while the boss continues his extravagent ways.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#10 Mar 19, 2010
NONO voter wrote:
<quoted text> To hell with the rest of the nation. I am worried about west fel. par. and will vote NO/NO. As I uunderstand it they had the money but had to go ahead and spend ALL OF IT. I have supported the school system except in this case. Give them a few extra bucks and they have to go ahead and spend all of it. Just like some other social recipients. NO/NO to more benefits for a wasteful school board.
The point is that this doesn't have to do with wasted money, it has to do with a decrease in the amount of Federal and State aid that the school system receives.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#11 Mar 19, 2010
You have no idea how lucky you are to have such a good school system (inlcuding the board). This parish does not have a private school, because there is no need for one. The public schools are top notch and that is due to the efforts of the ENTIRE school system. I would much rather pay a little bit more money now than to have the schools get to the point that parent's don't want to send their kids there anymore. Then you are looking at finding a way to send your child to a private school which will cost you MUCH more than you are currently being asked for. You will NEVER have a perfect school board. If you think you can, then feel free to throw your name in the hat and win one of the seats. See how fast it takes people to start blaming you for everything!
Abe

Saint Francisville, LA

#12 Mar 19, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
You have no idea how lucky you are to have such a good school system (inlcuding the board). This parish does not have a private school, because there is no need for one. The public schools are top notch and that is due to the efforts of the ENTIRE school system. I would much rather pay a little bit more money now than to have the schools get to the point that parent's don't want to send their kids there anymore. Then you are looking at finding a way to send your child to a private school which will cost you MUCH more than you are currently being asked for. You will NEVER have a perfect school board. If you think you can, then feel free to throw your name in the hat and win one of the seats. See how fast it takes people to start blaming you for everything!
I agree the tax needs passing!! The jewel of the Parish is the School System. Having said that, my big concern is the tax is a temporary fix, which will keep the district going, but not at the same HIGH level it was at. This tax is like taking out a loan to pay your mortgage to keep the bank away. A steady stream of revenue (tax dollars)is required to stay at the old achieved expectation standards of WFP. As much as we might not like it, things like the VOC Development, is what is needed to keep the great school system alive. Just saying NO to any growth is not going to get it done. As bad as the PJ is, they are at least trying to do something other than "Head In The Sand".
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#13 Mar 19, 2010
Abe wrote:
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I agree the tax needs passing!! The jewel of the Parish is the School System. Having said that, my big concern is the tax is a temporary fix, which will keep the district going, but not at the same HIGH level it was at. This tax is like taking out a loan to pay your mortgage to keep the bank away. A steady stream of revenue (tax dollars)is required to stay at the old achieved expectation standards of WFP. As much as we might not like it, things like the VOC Development, is what is needed to keep the great school system alive. Just saying NO to any growth is not going to get it done. As bad as the PJ is, they are at least trying to do something other than "Head In The Sand".
It's nice to see someone whot GETS IT. What people are failing to realize is that it all starts with the schools. If you don't fund the schools, you will never get anyone to move here or want to establish a business here. Paying a little now will keep everyone from paying A LOT later on.
Franklin

United States

#14 Mar 19, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
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The point is that this doesn't have to do with wasted money, it has to do with a decrease in the amount of Federal and State aid that the school system receives.
Then apply for state and federal grants, not sales tax and property taxes.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#15 Mar 22, 2010
Franklin wrote:
<quoted text>Then apply for state and federal grants, not sales tax and property taxes.
You don't think they do or have? These grants expire, so eventually you have to replace that money. The grants also have to be spent ONLY on what the grant is given for. The grants are not just free money to do what you want with. Read the paper today. The state is still looking for ways to cut even more money from the school districts. Why is everyone looking for handouts? Sometimes you have to pay to have something good!
Abe

Metairie, LA

#16 Mar 22, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't think they do or have? These grants expire, so eventually you have to replace that money. The grants also have to be spent ONLY on what the grant is given for. The grants are not just free money to do what you want with. Read the paper today. The state is still looking for ways to cut even more money from the school districts. Why is everyone looking for handouts? Sometimes you have to pay to have something good!
Grant Money is NOT a HANDOUT! There is a program called ERate, it is a Federal Funded Grant, On-Going Program, specifically for Education Programs. Every Telephone Bill in the US reflects a Universal Service Charge(Tax), which funds the ERate Program. The funding for this is in excess of 11 Billion Dollars annually. Programs like the every child a computer, are eligible for erate funding. As I understand it West Feliciana elected to fund their "Every Child a Computer" program 100% with local dollars. When Entergy was paying big bucks it was the easiest way to go, no red tape or reporting to the Feds. Look, we are were we are and I SUPPORT the tax initiative, because there isn't another option. In the days of Lloyd, he ran things his way, which got the district the accolades it is currently receiving. Unlike most school Districts, Lloyd was Policy Setter (Suppose to be the Board), but when Lloyd ran things he told them what the policy should be and they rubber stamped it. He then implemented his policy as Superintendent. The Board has very little if any experience in setting POLICY. Again we are where we are, and as I have said before, show me how these tax increases fix the problem long term (More than one year)? More roof tops and Business, is what's going to provide a long term solution. Raising taxes on the limited number of folks in West Feliciana, will quickly become unbearable. IMHO
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#17 Mar 22, 2010
Abe wrote:
<quoted text>
Grant Money is NOT a HANDOUT! There is a program called ERate, it is a Federal Funded Grant, On-Going Program, specifically for Education Programs. Every Telephone Bill in the US reflects a Universal Service Charge(Tax), which funds the ERate Program. The funding for this is in excess of 11 Billion Dollars annually. Programs like the every child a computer, are eligible for erate funding. As I understand it West Feliciana elected to fund their "Every Child a Computer" program 100% with local dollars. When Entergy was paying big bucks it was the easiest way to go, no red tape or reporting to the Feds. Look, we are were we are and I SUPPORT the tax initiative, because there isn't another option. In the days of Lloyd, he ran things his way, which got the district the accolades it is currently receiving. Unlike most school Districts, Lloyd was Policy Setter (Suppose to be the Board), but when Lloyd ran things he told them what the policy should be and they rubber stamped it. He then implemented his policy as Superintendent. The Board has very little if any experience in setting POLICY. Again we are where we are, and as I have said before, show me how these tax increases fix the problem long term (More than one year)? More roof tops and Business, is what's going to provide a long term solution. Raising taxes on the limited number of folks in West Feliciana, will quickly become unbearable. IMHO
See, you are not as informed as you think, which means that there are probably others that don't have all the facts as well....

1 to 1 Laptops

The 1 to 1 laptop program began as a pilot program that was funded by the state. The TOTL (Turn on To Learning) program was a competitive learning technology initiative providing students with 21st Century learning tools. The 1 to 1 program began with the sixth grade class of 2007-2008. After the first year of the grant, funding was no longer available from the state level for the TOTL program. However the program has expanded, to encompass three grade levels, because of the support of the West Feliciana Parish School Board and its belief that students must be prepared to work and live in the 21st century


As I already mentioned, GRANTS are not permanent. When the funds were no longer available the school board could have either done away with the program, are continue to fund it. It was a success and a much needed program, so they did decide to keep it going. If you don't put money into the schools, and it declines as a result, who is going to want to more here? Who is going to build a business in a parish that is loosing residents? As a parent, would you move into an area who's graduating class is not prepared for college and/or the work force? Or would you look for a school that is making strides to be innovative and proactive? If you have small children and get offered a job in a certain area, what is the FIRST thing you will research? If there is a Taco Bell? No
Abe

Metairie, LA

#18 Mar 22, 2010
School Supporter wrote:
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See, you are not as informed as you think, which means that there are probably others that don't have all the facts as well....
1 to 1 Laptops
The 1 to 1 laptop program began as a pilot program that was funded by the state. The TOTL (Turn on To Learning) program was a competitive learning technology initiative providing students with 21st Century learning tools. The 1 to 1 program began with the sixth grade class of 2007-2008. After the first year of the grant, funding was no longer available from the state level for the TOTL program. However the program has expanded, to encompass three grade levels, because of the support of the West Feliciana Parish School Board and its belief that students must be prepared to work and live in the 21st century
As I already mentioned, GRANTS are not permanent. When the funds were no longer available the school board could have either done away with the program, are continue to fund it. It was a success and a much needed program, so they did decide to keep it going. If you don't put money into the schools, and it declines as a result, who is going to want to more here? Who is going to build a business in a parish that is loosing residents? As a parent, would you move into an area who's graduating class is not prepared for college and/or the work force? Or would you look for a school that is making strides to be innovative and proactive? If you have small children and get offered a job in a certain area, what is the FIRST thing you will research? If there is a Taco Bell? No
I'm not going to argue with you and I stand by what I wrote, and nothing in your response addressed the LONG TERM solution, so you are either a School Board Member or Staff Member, which? Looking for a Taco Bell is a typical of subject, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks, that is pretty prevalent around these parts. The point is the TACO BELL would collect sales tax and keep the school at least at the level it is. Looking for a Taco vs. a quality school is a stupid response. I lost a lot of respect for you if you are in fact the real "School Supporter". Your response was pure BS. By the way as I said before I will vote FOR the taxes, unless I continue to get the kind of stuff you threw out above. If this type irrational, rationale continues, "YOU HATE KIDS" if you say anything factual about the current situation, then I will rethink my vote, and try to convince others to reconsider also.
School Supporter

Baton Rouge, LA

#19 Mar 22, 2010
Abe wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not going to argue with you and I stand by what I wrote, and nothing in your response addressed the LONG TERM solution, so you are either a School Board Member or Staff Member, which? Looking for a Taco Bell is a typical of subject, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks, that is pretty prevalent around these parts. The point is the TACO BELL would collect sales tax and keep the school at least at the level it is. Looking for a Taco vs. a quality school is a stupid response. I lost a lot of respect for you if you are in fact the real "School Supporter". Your response was pure BS. By the way as I said before I will vote FOR the taxes, unless I continue to get the kind of stuff you threw out above. If this type irrational, rationale continues, "YOU HATE KIDS" if you say anything factual about the current situation, then I will rethink my vote, and try to convince others to reconsider also.
I do not work for the school system in any capacity.

Not trying to argue either. The point I was trying to make with my Taco Bell example was that if you don't have residents staying in the parish, or new ones moving in, then there will be no increase in taxes collected b/c you will not have the people there to spend the money. Now, if you pass these taxes, and the schools continue to improve as they have, you will see more people moving into the parish. With more people, you can support more business. THEN, with more business you collect more taxes. Now the school board does not have to come back in another 5 years looking for more money. The taxes collected will go up instead of down. That should be your long term solution. I hope that clears up my thoughts.

“Time flies like an arrow...”

Since: Mar 07

"fruit flies like a banana"

#20 Mar 23, 2010
No more taxes!

When the money coming into your household or your business decreases, you tighten your belt. You don't go door to door asking people for money to maintain your current lifestyle.

Yes, we have wonderful schools. Let's keep them that way. That means the expansion of some programs will have to wait until funding is available and it may mean that some programs will have to be cut back -- not eliminated, but cut back.

Nothing is stopping the strong supporters of school programs from conducting fund raisers so that those who are able and want to contribute money can do so.

A sales tax increase is the very last thing we need right now.

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