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GPS43

United States

#251 Jul 17, 2014
What is there about Rod that is not pretty sad?

“Fresh Air”

Since: Jan 11

Saint Francisville

#252 Jul 17, 2014
GPS43 wrote:
What is there about Rod that is not pretty sad?
What I started as a good news thread truly has turned dark and sad. I wish I had never started it, not necessarily because of Rod Dreher, but because I worry about how sad reading the preponderance of comments here must make his children and wife feel. If the intent of some of the comments was to call him out and have him respond, it clearly hasn't worked. As the second longest thread on the opening page, I think this one has pretty much run its course. Rod's major detractors have provided plenty of links in their posts for people who want to read more of Rod's works and criticisms thereof.

OK, I'm ready for the peanuts, dim bulbs, etc., so bring them on.
Sheriff

Saint Francisville, LA

#253 Jul 17, 2014
countrylad wrote:
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What I started as a good news thread truly has turned dark and sad. I wish I had never started it, not necessarily because of Rod Dreher, but because I worry about how sad reading the preponderance of comments here must make his children and wife feel. If the intent of some of the comments was to call him out and have him respond, it clearly hasn't worked. As the second longest thread on the opening page, I think this one has pretty much run its course. Rod's major detractors have provided plenty of links in their posts for people who want to read more of Rod's works and criticisms thereof.
OK, I'm ready for the peanuts, dim bulbs, etc., so bring them on.
I agree with you Lad <(and that is not too often the case).
pat

Red Oak, TX

#254 Jul 17, 2014
countrylad wrote:
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What I started as a good news thread truly has turned dark and sad. I wish I had never started it, not necessarily because of Rod Dreher, but because I worry about how sad reading the preponderance of comments here must make his children and wife feel. If the intent of some of the comments was to call him out and have him respond, it clearly hasn't worked. As the second longest thread on the opening page, I think this one has pretty much run its course. Rod's major detractors have provided plenty of links in their posts for people who want to read more of Rod's works and criticisms thereof.
OK, I'm ready for the peanuts, dim bulbs, etc., so bring them on.
I don't see why you deserve peanuts, dim bulbs, etc. countrylad, but just remember, his wife and kids can get just as sad reading the stuff their husband/father spews out daily, obsessing about teen girls and weird sex, posting goofy pictures of them, alienating their cousins, bashing Catholics and Muslims, being the sort of "localist" who can't stand being in the heat and humidity of SF and can't wait to get away to Europe again instead, doing the sort of reporting that would earn his kids an "F" in school if they did it, etc., etc., etc., while generally making their family name a synonym for "butt hole".

But from what little I know, all in all they're quite content with their net lot in life, plenty of money, wife doesn't work, no hassles with kids at those outside schools, etc.

If they're already happy with the husband/father they've got, Topix isn't going to faze them, and if they're not, Topix isn't going to faze them either because it'll already seem so quaintly behind the curve.

I don't know if it takes a village to raise a child, but in the age of he internet it absolutely takes a family happy in their awareness or indifference to keep a Rod Dreher out there doing what he's doing.
Disgusting and petty

Baton Rouge, LA

#255 Jul 19, 2014
pat wrote:
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I don't see why you deserve peanuts, dim bulbs, etc. countrylad, but just remember, his wife and kids can get just as sad reading the stuff their husband/father spews out daily, obsessing about teen girls and weird sex, posting goofy pictures of them, alienating their cousins, bashing Catholics and Muslims, being the sort of "localist" who can't stand being in the heat and humidity of SF and can't wait to get away to Europe again instead, doing the sort of reporting that would earn his kids an "F" in school if they did it, etc., etc., etc., while generally making their family name a synonym for "butt hole".
But from what little I know, all in all they're quite content with their net lot in life, plenty of money, wife doesn't work, no hassles with kids at those outside schools, etc.
If they're already happy with the husband/father they've got, Topix isn't going to faze them, and if they're not, Topix isn't going to faze them either because it'll already seem so quaintly behind the curve.
I don't know if it takes a village to raise a child, but in the age of he internet it absolutely takes a family happy in their awareness or indifference to keep a Rod Dreher out there doing what he's doing.
Pat, didn't anyone ever teach you any manners? Good manners start with compassion. Being a cruel gossip is the absolute worst.
GPS43

United States

#256 Jul 19, 2014
Disgusting and petty wrote:
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Pat, didn't anyone ever teach you any manners? Good manners start with compassion. Being a cruel gossip is the absolute worst.
Sounds like something written by Rod.
pat

Fort Worth, TX

#257 Jul 19, 2014
Disgusting and petty wrote:
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Pat, didn't anyone ever teach you any manners? Good manners start with compassion. Being a cruel gossip is the absolute worst.
Disgusted, you really don't have a clue about the type of writing Rod Dreher puts out daily, do you?

Or maybe you do, and you're the same sort of person, the sort of superficially civil, mannerly person who wants others to think they're lily-white and pure on the surface while talking or writing in roundabout ways about how other people like to sleep with animals or whatever, even though any child can see right through that sort of phoniness. Like this - are you this sort of person, "mannerly" Disgusted:

"That Mary Lou, bless her heart! She's such a dear! And so kind and compassionate, even to small animals. Why, you know, she even took a hamster in the other day, an orphan - his mama died in that horrid pet shop, you heard about that, didn't you? Well, she really didn't have any place to keep it, you know, so, bless her heart, she's such a giving person that she kept it in her thong for a week. Now don't tell anyone I told you, she really would hate it if people thought she was trying to take credit for such a selfless act. Yes, her thong, I know, but doesn't she wear them well for such a large woman? She goes to my gym, you know. And tries so hard! So where do you want to eat today."

So which are you, mannerly Disgusted, clueless or complicit?

Rod Dreher shites out crap like that above every day, calls it "cultural criticsm", feeds his family with it, and as Amused_Not noted craves every bit of attention it brings him, so all we're doing here is helping him out.

Frankly, I've known train-pulling hookers more guileless than that dude. No wonder he suddenly found himself alone in a "dark wood" in the middle of good, straight-talking country people by comparison.
Disgusting and petty

Baton Rouge, LA

#258 Jul 20, 2014
No I don't read his daily posts but that is beside the point. You just don't go around trashing people. Just stop reading his blog if you don't like what he has to say. This entire thread (not to mention Pauli's blog) to gossip about someone? Hopefully you all have no children to raise. I have never seen such negativity, jealousy and pure hatefulness. No matter what your faith, the golden rule is simple.
pat

Grand Prairie, TX

#259 Jul 20, 2014
Disgusting and petty wrote:
No I don't read his daily posts but that is beside the point. You just don't go around trashing people. Just stop reading his blog if you don't like what he has to say. This entire thread (not to mention Pauli's blog) to gossip about someone? Hopefully you all have no children to raise. I have never seen such negativity, jealousy and pure hatefulness. No matter what your faith, the golden rule is simple.
Okay, so you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, but you still want everybody else to follow the golden rule you and the children you raise follow:

http://www.1ohww.org/content/uploads/2014/03/...

Sorry, Disgusting, but too many good people like Ruthie Leming and institutions like the Catholic Church end up getting passive-aggressively trashed on the national stage by the Rod Dreher's of the world while you're trying to preserve your self-serving illusion of virtue.
pat

Dallas, TX

#260 Jul 21, 2014
Doesn't this critter seem to manage all the gossiping which could possibly befall him all by himself?

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-con...
dianeski

Tobaccoville, NC

#261 Jul 21, 2014
Good grief. Rod is a public figure. Public figures, to a large extent, are fair game.

And, by his own choice, Rod is a VERY public figure -- constantly over-sharing about very personal matters involving himself, his family, his friends, his sour cream.
He didn't *have* to be a public figure. He had a nice cushy corporate job at the Templeton Foundation. No byline. No glaring klieg lights. Total anonymity.

But apparently that's not what he wanted. Anonymity did not provide sufficient narcissistic supply. So, back to the byline he went. And, ever since then, he has been very publicly airing his passive-aggressive hostility toward his dead sister, his vicious anti-Catholicism, and various other obsessions, which many people find unpleasant and distasteful.

Yes, those of us repelled by his pseudo-journalism have every right to call him out on this stuff. Personally, I am sick and tired of his relentless anti-Catholic shtick, and I will oppose his lies and distortions about my Church whenever I can. If he doesn't want to take heat for this nonsense, he shouldn't spew it.
GPS43

United States

#262 Jul 21, 2014
pat wrote:
Doesn't this critter seem to manage all the gossiping which could possibly befall him all by himself?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-con...
This picture tells quite a bit about Rod. It literally screams out "look at me...PLEASE look at me". The hair, the glasses , both are obvious extensions of his self-deluded personality which, in his mind, sets him apart from normal society. Don't laugh at him. Pity him.
intolerance

Euless, TX

#263 Jul 22, 2014
All this seems terribly intolerant. People on here claim Mr. Dreher is intolerant, yet, isn't intolerance of intolerance itself intolerance? Live and let live.
pat

Dallas, TX

#264 Jul 22, 2014
intolerance wrote:
All this seems terribly intolerant. People on here claim Mr. Dreher is intolerant, yet, isn't intolerance of intolerance itself intolerance? Live and let live.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

According to the way you're using the word "intolerant", people should just shut up and let other people do whatever they want without saying anything. To do any different is to show you don't have "manners". It might just be me, but I can see a straight line from that sort of thinking to docile peasants passively accepting their crumbs in a rural barony.

But even so, people here are far more tolerant of Rod Dreher than he is of them. Rod Dreher can come on here, say whatever he wants, and debate anybody he chooses without anybody stopping him. On his blog he only lets through those things he approves of. And if I remember right, someone told me when he had a blog around SF he tried to sic the Sheriff on people here for saying things he didn't approve of.

So don't talk to me about your butt-licking notions of "tolerance". People around here tolerate others just fine. They just don't agree with all of them, and they don't have to.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#265 Jul 22, 2014
Dreher MAKES a living being gossipy, intolerant, and just plain mean-spirited. I mean, really, this is a 40 year old male, who is none too slim himself. He used his blog to make fun of a young girl he didn't even know because he thought she was "too" fat.

He CRAVES attention, any kind, positive or negative, it make no difference. He also has delusions of self-importance, and unfortunately some media types fell for his shtick when he published his 'little" --in many ways- book, and he overdosed on their misplaced attention.

And Pat is correct in saying people, especially in SF, have been way more tolerant of Dreher than he has been of them. He is a cultural pretender.

He is also a coward because he will only post his poison on his blog where he has the "power" to delete anyone who disagrees with him.

“Will Blog For Food”

Since: Jun 08

Cleveland

#266 Jul 24, 2014
The commenter styling herself "Disgusting and Petty" is typical of many of Dreher's supporters whom I've encountered over the years. They love how he dishes it out, but the HATE when anyone criticizes him even the *tiniest* bit, like pointing out how ridiculous he looks in the latest picture he posted while eating in his car.

A lot of it has to do with the appreciation of Dreher's style. Check this out from 15 years ago when he was just starting:
http://observer.com/1999/12/post-columnist-en...

He begins with "There she is, Miss America, the slut!" That's the shock line. Then we get the faux apology "I'm kidding"; then the all-important *wink* to the literati: "But only a bit." This is how Dreher ingeniously built his following even among many Catholics.

Some of my fellow Catholics saw Dreher's great wit and his criticism of conservative Catholic leaders in America as so important that they attacked me in print as irreligious and materialistic for pointing out inconsistencies and incoherence in his Crunchy Conservatives book. One guy, a far-right Catholic apologist blogger, got so angry with me that he attacked my blog without ever even linking to it or pointing out what was wrong with a single thing I wrote. It was all pure assertion driven by pure emotion and groupthink within his small, clannish circle.

I wrote a bit about the disaffected Catholic connection to Dreher's line of thinking here: http://contrapauli.blogspot.com/p/and-heres-b...

Even though the few Catholics like me who had been criticizing him for years felt vindicated after he loudly left the church, none of his former supporters that I knew of ever admitted we were onto him; that's not in the nature of the smart set. In fact, many Catholics still look to Rod as someone who can be trusted on Catholic matters because he knows how to butter them up.

I don't claim any infused heavenly wisdom on abstract matters, but I can claim earthly wisdom on human behavior. I've always noticed that common dislikes are a standard tool of the cad and the confidence man. "Wow—you hate chain restaurants too? It's amazing we have so much in common, my dear!" Long after the cad has left the hotel room the bitterness lingers, but the poor lass lashes out at those who warned her; they are still present whereas he is too far away for a face slap.
Sorrento

United States

#267 Jul 24, 2014
I cannot help but wonder if Rod Dreher ever comes to this site to read what is written about him by his peers. Does he become upset or simply ignores these posts? How could he possibly ignore them? Surely in the recesses of his thought process he must wonder if, perhaps, most of what is written is true. "Do people truly feel this way about me? If so, something must be wrong....with me." To feel otherwise would be justification to seek professional help. Just a thought.
Concerned

Greenwell Springs, LA

#268 Jul 24, 2014
No, if he reads these posts his reaction is going to be to wonder what is wrong with the posters, not with him.
diane ski

Asheboro, NC

#269 Jul 24, 2014
Concerned wrote:
No, if he reads these posts his reaction is going to be to wonder what is wrong with the posters, not with him.
Because he is right and everyone else is wrong?

“Fresh Air”

Since: Jan 11

Saint Francisville

#270 Jul 25, 2014
diane ski wrote:
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Because he is right and everyone else is wrong?
Most politicians believe it is far less important what people say about you than that they are talking about you at all. This is particularly true at the national level. Chances are, if he is even aware of this thread, he views it that way, at the least, and may even take it a step further and use it as evidence to his fellow illuminati that it is not possible to save those not so enlightened.

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