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Police: Three arrested in beating of gay man in St. Cloud

There are 69 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 24, 2011, titled Police: Three arrested in beating of gay man in St. Cloud. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

St. Cloud police arrested three men early Monday after police say they beat another man because he was gay.

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Honest

Saint Paul, MN

#1 May 24, 2011
Stop the Hate. Parents please teach you children not to hate.

GLBT people are just people and deserve to be treated with the same rights and respect.
Rev Peters

Minneapolis, MN

#3 May 24, 2011
Gosh, I wonder if these insecure dimwits might happen to be republican.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#4 May 24, 2011
Better headline:
Chads Hands beating Gay Man in St Cloud.

Was the decal in the rear window of the perp's pick-up of a ford cartoon wizzing on a chevy logo, or a Chevy cartoon wizzing on a Dodge logo?

Since: Mar 09

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#5 May 24, 2011
DATE: 8/30/2010
DEFENDANT: Matthew Warren Thomas
DOB: 3/20/1987
CITY/RESIDENCE: Rogers , MN
AGENCY: St. Cloud Police Department
CONVICTION: Aiding & Abetting Aggravated Robbery in the First Degree
SENTENCE: Offense Date: November 11, 2009. Imposition of sentence stayed; 20 years
probation; 180 days jail (staggered jail: three 60-day segments, 9/17/2010,
1/14/2011 and 4/15/2011), work release okay, no ability to waive segments
unless agent writes exceptional letter; pay a $300 fine plus surcharges or
complete community service work in lieu of the fine; pay restitution as determined
by agent, left open for 60 days; obtain a chemical dependency evaluation and
follow recommendations; complete an anger management program and follow
recommendations; abstain from alcohol and non-prescribed mood altering
substances; random urinalysis testing; provide a DNA sample; no contact with
victim; sign releases of information; no same or similar violations during
probation; remain law abiding. Sentenced by Judge Davick-Halfen on August 30,
2010.
Honest

Saint Paul, MN

#6 May 24, 2011
Yes that would be a hate crime too if they were shouting racial epithets showing the reason for their hate.

All hate is harmful.

Since: Mar 09

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#7 May 24, 2011
These guys are real champs.

http://www.co.wright.mn.us/department/sheriff...
--Wright County Sheriff--
On October 17, Ryan Andrew Frane, 23, of St Cloud was arrested in St Michael on the charge of 3rd degree DWI
trolls

Hugo, MN

#8 May 24, 2011
Rev Peters wrote:
Gosh, I wonder if these insecure dimwits might happen to be republican.
Congrats troll! You turned this thread political in only 3 posts!!! A NEW RECORD!!!
RIOT

Waukesha, WI

#9 May 24, 2011
Rev Peters wrote:
Gosh, I wonder if these insecure dimwits might happen to be republican.
No I heard they were liberals, they really were after the cash the victim had. You know, liberals never met a pocket they didn't want to steal from.

Rev, I doubt you are.
Black is Back

Fargo, ND

#10 May 24, 2011
highland guy wrote:
If three gay guys beat up a black guy, is it still a hate crime?
isn't justice blind?
The answer is clearly yes if the three gay guys hate black people (which some do), and the black guy did absolutely nothing to provoke the beating. As a matter of fact, it is a hate crime if three black guys beat a white guy for no other reason other than hate.

This was far too easy of a legal question to ask. The law is not blind when it comes to hate crimes. The people who believe hate law is blind are the only ones who still don't see the light.
to hard

Saint Paul, MN

#11 May 24, 2011
In this day and age, can't people just "live and let live"? why does a person need to hurt someone for no reason. If you are not gay, you can't catch it from a gay person. Seems like the more the government wants to force diversity, the more hate there is.....acceptance is the key...come on people grow up.
trolls

Hugo, MN

#12 May 24, 2011
Black is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
The answer is clearly yes if the three gay guys hate black people (which some do), and the black guy did absolutely nothing to provoke the beating. As a matter of fact, it is a hate crime if three black guys beat a white guy for no other reason other than hate.
This was far too easy of a legal question to ask. The law is not blind when it comes to hate crimes. The people who believe hate law is blind are the only ones who still don't see the light.
But couldn't you argue that most crimes are at least somewhat driven by hate? It's not too often you hear about someone beating up their best friend.
Rich U

Austin, TX

#13 May 24, 2011
Brave. Charge em with felony stupid. Then introduce them to Bubba( the dance istructor) and his friends.
conservative observations

Saint Paul, MN

#14 May 24, 2011
Let's see now. Can we assume that at least on or perhaps all of the three young men are having some personal issues regarding their own sexual orientation?
bobxray

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 24, 2011
The story said the victim refused medical attention. So that tells me that the three inbreds weren't able to really hurt the one guy? What a bunch of pansies.
Jabber

Saint Joseph, MN

#16 May 24, 2011
Three supposedly straights to beat up on ONE gay guy. What a pathetic bunch losers these three are. Send these guys to Texas.
GLOCK

Saint Michael, MN

#17 May 24, 2011
They apparently weren't his "fairy good friends".
john0990

Minneapolis, MN

#18 May 24, 2011
trolls wrote:
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But couldn't you argue that most crimes are at least somewhat driven by hate? It's not too often you hear about someone beating up their best friend.
Come on. It's not "hate" as in, "I hate that dude for stealing my xbox." It's hating someone for who they are or are perceived to be, regardless of their actions or inaction. This isn't a difficult concept.
Javier

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 24, 2011
They "hurled" slurs at him? How much does a slur weigh? They sound heavy if they are "hurled". Or perhaps in the modern day vernacular, they vomited slurs at him.

Since: Mar 09

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#20 May 24, 2011
Black is Back wrote:
<quoted text>
The answer is clearly yes if the three gay guys hate black people (which some do), and the black guy did absolutely nothing to provoke the beating. As a matter of fact, it is a hate crime if three black guys beat a white guy for no other reason other than hate.
This was far too easy of a legal question to ask. The law is not blind when it comes to hate crimes. The people who believe hate law is blind are the only ones who still don't see the light.
Punishing people for their thoughts, rather than their actions is a dangerous step.

The next time a group of minority yutes mug a white guy while calling him names, we'll see if your statement holds up, or if hate crime legislation is (as I suspect it is) a one-way street.
john0990

Minneapolis, MN

#22 May 24, 2011
highland guy wrote:
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Punishing people for their thoughts, rather than their actions is a dangerous step.
The next time a group of minority yutes mug a white guy while calling him names, we'll see if your statement holds up, or if hate crime legislation is (as I suspect it is) a one-way street.
They wouldn't have been arrested if they'd just thought bad things about the guy they assaulted. No, they made the choice to act on those thoughts, violently assaulting someone just because they didn't like him or people like him. So this isn't at all about punishing people for their thoughts. It's about punishing people who make the choice to turn their thoughts into unprovoked violence.

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