do you think St.Clous is a bad place ...

do you think St.Clous is a bad place to live

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Cracker Jack

Somerset, KY

#1 Sep 27, 2008
I grew up in St. cloud. Back in the day (which was 15 yrs ago) St. cloud was small! When I was forced to move (I was still under age) things were starting to get bad. That is why my mother moved me. I have returned to St. Cloud many times, and things have changed soooooo much in that time. I now have two children and I would not raise my children there. Most of the people that I know are moving from there because it is so bad.
think outside the box

Winter Park, FL

#2 Sep 28, 2008
Funny that **** Jack thinks so poorly of St. Cloud. I have been living there almost 2 years. Maybe I'm one of those who moved in that he thinks made it spiral downward? Hmmm? For a town that the streets are virtually empty by 10pm. Where there are no homeless people roaming the streets. Where the most dangerous criminal on the streets is a drunk driver leaving Lennys or Cracker House at 2am, I would say it is a pretty awesome place to live. Yes, there are "rumors" that a lot of drugs exists in St. Cloud (particularly meth) however, I have yet to have a dope pusher bang on my window at the street corner to insist on selling me drugs. Nor have I been robbed, held a gun point, shot at, raped, beaten, or even yelled at. Most people are quite friendly and it truly has a small town atmosphere. In fact, I actually have a secret neighbor that is so kind to place my newspapers on my front porch by the door to keep them from getting wet and roll my trash can back from the curb on trash days ... I have no clue who this person is but each week they secretly do this. We live in a world where neighbors like that rarely exists. Wish I could thank them.
Barkenhoffer

Lincoln, NE

#3 Sep 28, 2008
Cracker Jack wrote:
I grew up in St. cloud. Back in the day (which was 15 yrs ago) St. cloud was small! When I was forced to move (I was still under age) things were starting to get bad. That is why my mother moved me. I have returned to St. Cloud many times, and things have changed soooooo much in that time. I now have two children and I would not raise my children there. Most of the people that I know are moving from there because it is so bad.
Granted, St. Cloud is not like it was 15 years ago. Few places, if any, are. However, I am curious as to what situations exist in St. Cloud that cause it to be as bad as you're making it out to be.

(To t.o.t.b.: in 3 thread posts you have already shown yourself to be a person of uncommon common sense. Glad to have you here.)
Cracker Jack

Somerset, KY

#4 Sep 28, 2008
There were no gangs in the schools back then. Everybody was friends with everyone. Yes you had your different groups, but just about everyone got along. Everything is not so fast paced here in my town. When I first moved I hated it. Now as a mother I am thankful that my mother had the foresight to see the way things were changing. So compared to where I live now, St.Cloud is not a good place to live. Maybe it's because I think St.Cloud has grown sooooooo much in the past 15 yrs. Tell me this, I remember being 7yrs old walking from Penn. Ave and 7th streets all the way to Michigan Ave. Elem. to go to school(by myself). Would you let your 7 yrs old daughter do that now? Here in Somerset I can.
I'm just comparing is all.
Barkenhoffer

Lincoln, NE

#5 Sep 29, 2008
Cracker Jack wrote:
There were no gangs in the schools back then. Everybody was friends with everyone. Yes you had your different groups, but just about everyone got along. Everything is not so fast paced here in my town. When I first moved I hated it. Now as a mother I am thankful that my mother had the foresight to see the way things were changing. So compared to where I live now, St.Cloud is not a good place to live. Maybe it's because I think St.Cloud has grown sooooooo much in the past 15 yrs. Tell me this, I remember being 7yrs old walking from Penn. Ave and 7th streets all the way to Michigan Ave. Elem. to go to school(by myself). Would you let your 7 yrs old daughter do that now? Here in Somerset I can.
I'm just comparing is all.
There are no gangs in St. Cloud schools now. There may be media driven "wanna-bes", but over the years pop culture has affected the attitude and appearance of impressionable teenagers throughout the country. At no point in time has everyone been friends with everyone. Through the blissful ignorance of youth it may have seemed that way to you, and now that you're grown up and exposed to more of the world's realities you see more strife between people, but not that many people actually get along. While it has certainly grown, if you consider St. Cloud to be fast paced you may want to stay away from larger cities. St. Cloud still has a smaller population than the number of people who attend a single professional sporting event.

I don't think there's any point in time, under any circumstances, that I would have allowed a 7 year old child to walk 19 odd blocks, including crossing a major roadway, to get to school. That's irresponsible.
Cracker Jack

Somerset, KY

#6 Sep 29, 2008
Wow then I must have been lucky! I remember having lots of friends from all the different groups. I even called some of my friends that still live there and some that have moved (for the same reason). They were really lucky too, they agreed with me. Were you there the same time we were?
And yes, I would have to agree that it is irresponsible to allow a 7 yrs old to walk that far. The crossing guard made sure we got across just fine. I was not the only one.
simple

Tavares, FL

#7 Sep 29, 2008
Driving around Saint Cloud, one can see the changes....

high influx of hispanics, "Lake shore drive" on any weekend, sidewalks, with graffiti on the fences, walls and light poles, more trash on the roads,

much more traffic due to all the new homes built on old lake beds "the next flood zone" (Black Berry Creek),(eagle Creek,etc...)

Putting in 4 lanes on 192 to Melbourne, putting in 4 lanes on Hwy 15 (Narcoossee Road) to Lake Nona,

New Public Food stores one at each end of town,

Lack of open space and cows,,, etc...

Yes Saint Cloud Has Changed.

So goes the Quality of Life!
Barkenhoffer

Lincoln, NE

#8 Sep 30, 2008
simple wrote:
Driving around Saint Cloud, one can see the changes....
high influx of hispanics, "Lake shore drive" on any weekend, sidewalks, with graffiti on the fences, walls and light poles, more trash on the roads,
much more traffic due to all the new homes built on old lake beds "the next flood zone" (Black Berry Creek),(eagle Creek,etc...)
Putting in 4 lanes on 192 to Melbourne, putting in 4 lanes on Hwy 15 (Narcoossee Road) to Lake Nona,
New Public Food stores one at each end of town,
Lack of open space and cows,,, etc...
Yes Saint Cloud Has Changed.
So goes the Quality of Life!
Yes, there have been changes. How horrible to have sidewalks, improved roadways and shopping choices. Trash and graffiti are nothing new, but you make it sound like an epidemic. Blackberry Creek has been fully developed for about a decade and a half. I expect your perception has a lot to do with your quality of life.

Maybe C.J. can give you directions to where she lives. I'm sure that town needs someone who is Simple.
clermont florida

AOL

#9 Sep 30, 2008
i lived there for 4 yrs and could not wait to get out of there i still have family there and it takes me alot to want to go back even to see them, one of my nephews has just moved there from jersey and ask me if he could move to clermont with me because there is notting in the cloud for young man as far as jobs and things to do ,what you can go to the like. nothing but a bunch of red necks there anymore ,as for me im a gay woman who was attacked there when i was driving my car and was followed home things were thrown at my car i was called names ,so the cloud is a shitty place to live and all you rednecks can stay there and kill each other
clermont florida

AOL

#10 Sep 30, 2008
opps go to lake
simple

Tavares, FL

#11 Sep 30, 2008
Barkenhoffer wrote:
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Yes, there have been changes. How horrible to have sidewalks, improved roadways and shopping choices. Trash and graffiti are nothing new, but you make it sound like an epidemic. Blackberry Creek has been fully developed for about a decade and a half. I expect your perception has a lot to do with your quality of life.
Maybe C.J. can give you directions to where she lives. I'm sure that town needs someone who is Simple.
Yes Black Berry has been around, but it has flooded twice, next are all the low laying areas that are being developed now, 10 years ago one did not see any graffiti, now it is all over Osceola County and getting worse, and all up and down Hwy 192 in Kissimmee stores closed and boarded up. Nothing wrong with my quality of life I don't live in Saint Cloud, I call it the way I see it. Some Change is good, but the quality of the people is what makes a place good or bad to live it. Open your eyes. I don't see too much of the good anymore!
Barkenhoffer

Lincoln, NE

#12 Sep 30, 2008
simple wrote:
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Yes Black Berry has been around, but it has flooded twice, next are all the low laying areas that are being developed now, 10 years ago one did not see any graffiti, now it is all over Osceola County and getting worse, and all up and down Hwy 192 in Kissimmee stores closed and boarded up. Nothing wrong with my quality of life I don't live in Saint Cloud, I call it the way I see it. Some Change is good, but the quality of the people is what makes a place good or bad to live it. Open your eyes. I don't see too much of the good anymore!
Blackberry Creek flooded many years ago, and improvements were made. Since then, no problems at all with flooding, even during heavy rain and hurricanes. The flooding problem there was long before the recent population and housing boom. Not relevant.

10 years ago there was graffiti. Perhaps you missed it. It's nothing new. Kissimmee does have some graffiti problems, but Kissimmee is not St. Cloud.

I'm curious to know how many people from St. Cloud you know. How many are you basing your judgment of the quality of people in St. Cloud on?

My eyes are open, and, suprisingly,(considering), I still see good things. I wonder what happened to you that you don't.
Nice Gal

Kissimmee, FL

#13 Oct 5, 2008
I live in a subdivison in Narcoosee near St. Cloud and I think the area in general is very nice. Within just a few minutes drive you can go from agricultural green spaces to shopping/restuarant areas. There are quaint, family-owned businesses dotting the area. And you get more for your investment here than in Orlando proper without the influx of viloent crime.

If you're value-minded, the state streets offer a variety of home choices and the city pays for free internet for you. Not a bad deal. And you can drive to Orlando in about 30 minutes.

I've lived in St. Cloud and now near St. Cloud for a decade and my only serious gripe is the low-quality of the SC Police Department.
URRRRRRRRRRR

Kissimmee, FL

#14 Jul 23, 2010
The Cloud is now being overrun with Hispanics! It's beginning to get infested like Kissimmee.
Luvthecloud

Orlando, FL

#15 Jul 26, 2010
I have lived in Saint Cloud for over 4yrs and much prefer it to Orlando, where I moved from. Yes, I am one of those that moved to get away from the Big city and was turned on by the "Small town life." Of course that didn't last long, partly I'm sure because of families like mine moving in. But what we should really look at is the people. Are the people nice? Do your neighbor's care? Does your City Officials truly care about the City they are running? Truly I feel that our current Mayor Donna Hart has a passion for Saint Cloud and its people. She strives to do what is in the best interest of our City and the people. That doesn't mean that everything that happens is good for everyone. Someone is always going to have a complaint, but I truly like living here because of that Heartfelt shown through the people of this Small town. Thank you to all those wonderful people of Saint Cloud that truly give a darn about their City, by keeping their homes nice, yards mowed, making their votes count, and obeying the laws, and giving a smile in the checkout line at Walmart. There doesn't go a day that I do not see a SCPD office drive through my neighborhood or down 192. So, yes I appreciate their presence. Maybe just seeing them out makes the difference in crime. So, all I have to say is if you don't like living here you can always move, but don't think for one minute that the "grass in greener on the otherside". You have to be able to take the good with the bad and make the best of it and make sure that YOU are doing what's best for your family and YOUR CITY!! I't only takes ONE to change a World!
The Punisher

Deland, FL

#16 Jul 30, 2010
URRRRRRRRRRR wrote:
The Cloud is now being overrun with Hispanics! It's beginning to get infested like Kissimmee.
"HISPANICS", Bringing the quality of life back to St. Cloud...
The Punisher

Deland, FL

#17 Jul 30, 2010
simple wrote:
Driving around Saint Cloud, one can see the changes....
high influx of hispanics, "Lake shore drive" on any weekend, sidewalks, with graffiti on the fences, walls and light poles, more trash on the roads,
much more traffic due to all the new homes built on old lake beds "the next flood zone" (Black Berry Creek),(eagle Creek,etc...)
Putting in 4 lanes on 192 to Melbourne, putting in 4 lanes on Hwy 15 (Narcoossee Road) to Lake Nona,
New Public Food stores one at each end of town,
Lack of open space and cows,,, etc...
Yes Saint Cloud Has Changed.
So goes the Quality of Life!
I love it when someone who doesn't know what they are talking posts comments up about hispanics and assume bad things are happening in this city because of them. Look at the statistics wax works, almost all of the crimes in this city are committed by fucking white trash like you. How I know this, shouldnt be hard o figure out. Pisses me off that I have to put my life on the line at work everynight for people like you, if that.
Wow Punisher

Melbourne, FL

#18 Jul 30, 2010
Sounds a little in your face there big guy. sounds like you like statistics, then maybe you should check out the ones like any other. Where is the safest places to live hmmm; guarantee per ca-pita it will be a white dominated area. Call it cultural, but most white people obey the law or more importantly work within the system to change it. they aren't creating shooting/resisting scenarios where Officers and innocents get hurt.
Ms luvthe cloud

Melbourne, FL

#19 Jul 30, 2010
Glad you love this city' it is still overall the best place to live. Possibly would be better if the workers here had a better environment and tax dollars were not so wasted on friendly positions.
URRRRRRRRRRR

Kissimmee, FL

#21 Aug 3, 2010
The Punisher wrote:
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"HISPANICS", Bringing the quality of life back to St. Cloud...
&#9836; You're just as ignorant as the rest of them. Pfttttt! &#9834;

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