Pit Bull Attacks Again
Ban pits

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#21 Mar 14, 2010
Doggie Do wrote:
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I don't like pits, but I certainly can see your number are made up. Where are these studies that you cite????????
Can you read?

Since: Mar 10

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#22 Mar 14, 2010
Ban pits wrote:
<quoted text>"As a member of the veterinarian community". Does that mean your a vet tech. The study is from the CDC. I will take their info over a tech who thinks their special.
I'm sure you would like to degrade me as it sounds from your tone that it may be hard for you to admit a woman is smarter than you on this subject. I am a educator and researcher in primary pet care and rehabilitation. You better check your source's data to see where they compiled it from because that data does not exist. Law enforcement does not keep track of the data for what you are claiming for this research to be properly validated. Nor do any other types of agencies. You seem to just want to completely destroy a breed over some bad apples. There are many variables regarding this subject and I suggest you take your blinders off and educate yourself a bit more. As stated, pit bulls are excellent companion animals for the disabled. That fact you seem to have over looked.
Ceaser Milan

Lorain, OH

#23 Mar 14, 2010
My name is Ceaser I am a educator and researcher in primary pet care and rehabilitation and I say pits are very dangerous. I know A guy who had his wooden leg ripped off by A pit. But i would rather kiss A pit than kiss you, you sound very angry. More angyy than A pit bull. Why are you so mad ? Do you have distemper.

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#24 Mar 15, 2010
Hannah wrote:
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You know it is not the dog it is the owner. My small dog was attacked by an unleashed, unlicensed pit bull owned by an Eastpointe cop who lives in the Shores. How stupid to let any dog whether it is a poodle or pit bull to be unleashed and out front and definitely a cop should know better. But you read about the bully breeds as they can cause the real damage. If a poodle attacks you -you can kick it (not that you would want to) and get it off you or your dog but if a Pit Bull attacks you good luck. It took this stupid cop 5-6 lunges full force on his dog before he could get it off mine and the first thing out of his mouth "do you know who I am" "I am not a regular person--I am a cop" When you have any dog it always needs to be on a leash when out of the yard and if you have a gate it needs to be secure. Pit Bulls and all breeds can be wonderful pets but it is the owner. My friend in the Shores sprayed a whole can of mace on a Shepherd when it was runing loose and attacked her dog and she told me that the shepherd did not stop attacking her dog. So the stick and I would go for the eyes (disgusting but reality). Good Luck.
Who paid the vet bill for your dog?

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#25 Mar 15, 2010
Dog Facts wrote:
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Ever asked yourself why the only dogs that bite anyone are pit bulls or at least that is all you hear about on the news or read in the paper. I guess no other type of dog bites or attacks except pit bulls. When I was growing up it was Germen Shepards everyone was scared about and not mention of pit bulls ever made it into the news.
I am not sure what decade the German Sheperd was the popular biter. And I am not saying that pit bulls are the only breed out there attacking other dogs. Only difference is you can get another breed off of your dog, but to try and break away a vicious breed that has been bred to kill is almost impossible. Like I said people can talk about "Petey" on the little rascals all they want, but it is almost a guarantee that somewhere in a pitbulls breeding, there is that insane killer seed, especially in the last 20 or so years. Please citizens of St. Clair Shores, as much as you would like to carry a gun, that is not always allowed, let me repeat myself, mace, baseball bat, good gloves and a hockey stick...we can talk about breeds of dogs till we are blue in the face..just protect yourself and your best friend.

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#26 Mar 15, 2010
Ceaser Milan wrote:
My name is Ceaser I am a educator and researcher in primary pet care and rehabilitation and I say pits are very dangerous. I know A guy who had his wooden leg ripped off by A pit. But i would rather kiss A pit than kiss you, you sound very angry. More angyy than A pit bull. Why are you so mad ? Do you have distemper.
Thank you Ceaser

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#27 Mar 15, 2010
SCS Resident wrote:
Everyone knows that pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. However, just like any type of terrier mix, they do have aggressive tendencies towards other dogs. In fact true pit bulls are naturally non-aggressive towards humans as the owners didn't want to get bit when pulling them from the dog fighting ring . Facts that change due to owners who abuse them or don't properly train their dog, which everyone should do regardless of breed. One of Helen Killers companion dogs was a pit bull, Petey on the Little Rascals was a pit bull, and the first dog ever decorated by the US Military was a pit bull. They make excellent companion dogs for the handicapped, and are also considered great search and rescue dogs. Those are all facts you won't read about in the paper or hear on the news. The reason I know all this is because we adopted a dog that at first we thought had pit bull in her. Well as it turned out she doesn't, but we were lead to believe that fact because of how she looked. That is also another fact on pit bulls that no one ever mentions. The females 99% of the time are not put into the ring to fight.
Proper training and exercise is the key to make sure your terrier mix gets all that energy out. You always read about pit bulls in the paper or hear about them on the news, but in reality all these so called pit bull attacks are not always pit bulls. There are many breeds often confused as a pit bull or pit bull mix. Take the pit bull test and also read about this breed at the link below. You might learn a thing or two on how this breed is being demonized to sell papers or get you to watch the news channel.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findp...
Demonized to sell papers? Tell that to a little kid that has had their face ripped off. Or my poor Aunt who had to stand by and watch a pit jump out of the window of a moving car and maul,
mutilate and kill her cat, by the way her story was never printed or aired on tv. We are a very long way from "Petey" and would love to see the stats as to how many are used in the military today. The majority of this breed
can not be trusted, they are the grandsons and grandaughters of dogs that have been fought in Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago and a number of other cities in America. Pits need training and excercise that a normal joe blow is not going to provide, and even with the best of training or proper turn out time,that fighting seed can show up...Please spare me the "Walt Disney" tear jerking "Petey" stories.

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#28 Mar 15, 2010
Lifelong Pet Owner wrote:
How come there were never any news stories of pitbulls prior to about 10 or so years ago? Did this breed all of sudden appear on the face of this earth and start attacking other dogs and people? I'm in my 60s and I don't recall ever hearing about pitbull attacks the first nearly 45 plus years of my life. I have been bitten by about at least 10 dogs in my life time and two times requiring stiches. None of those dogs were pitbulls that I was aware of and those attacks didn't make the paper either even when the police were involved. I would never own a pitbull because I don't like their looks. I prefer doberman pinschers myself, a breed some would consider violent, but not so.
It always boils down to responsible pet ownership over breed. Any qualified trainer would tell you the same. The problem is we let just about anyone own a dog and don't require proper training as part of that ownership.
Just thought I would put in my two cents.
I might be wrong but I think dog fighting has become much more popular in the last 10 to 15 years. Might have something to do with the rash of attacks.

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#29 Mar 15, 2010
Hannah wrote:
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No I did not sue. The owner was so arrogant that I was concerned since I live alone. I have the report. But the SCS cops were really of no help once they found out he was a cop. They even put on the report that Mr.______ was nice to me (yeah right)(as there was no discussion whether or not his dog attacked mine since mine was licensed and on a leash and it was summer and the nieghbors heard me screaming). He even told me that the SCS cops came over to his house several times to make sure that his dog was ok. You have got to be kidding. Actually I have several police officers in my family but when I told then what he said about he was not a regular person he was a police officer they were surprised that "he would be so stupid to say that".
you really need to contact Jeffrey Fieger on this one

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#30 Mar 15, 2010
SCS Resident wrote:
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You may want to re-check those so-called facts. There are no such statistics, just news stories. Many breeds where originally bred for violent purposes, especially in the terrier mixes. Try educating yourself instead of beliveing everything a news person tells you. If you want statistics, you would be interested in knowing that smaller breeds are more likely to bite humans than larger breeds.
Do the little breeds LATCH and do not let go?

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#31 Mar 15, 2010
SCS Resident wrote:
Everyone knows that pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs. However, just like any type of terrier mix, they do have aggressive tendencies towards other dogs. In fact true pit bulls are naturally non-aggressive towards humans as the owners didn't want to get bit when pulling them from the dog fighting ring . Facts that change due to owners who abuse them or don't properly train their dog, which everyone should do regardless of breed. One of Helen Killers companion dogs was a pit bull, Petey on the Little Rascals was a pit bull, and the first dog ever decorated by the US Military was a pit bull. They make excellent companion dogs for the handicapped, and are also considered great search and rescue dogs. Those are all facts you won't read about in the paper or hear on the news. The reason I know all this is because we adopted a dog that at first we thought had pit bull in her. Well as it turned out she doesn't, but we were lead to believe that fact because of how she looked. That is also another fact on pit bulls that no one ever mentions. The females 99% of the time are not put into the ring to fight.
Proper training and exercise is the key to make sure your terrier mix gets all that energy out. You always read about pit bulls in the paper or hear about them on the news, but in reality all these so called pit bull attacks are not always pit bulls. There are many breeds often confused as a pit bull or pit bull mix. Take the pit bull test and also read about this breed at the link below. You might learn a thing or two on how this breed is being demonized to sell papers or get you to watch the news channel.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findp...
pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

Since: Nov 09

Saint Clair Shores, Michigan

#32 Mar 15, 2010
Blondy One wrote:
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I'm sure you would like to degrade me as it sounds from your tone that it may be hard for you to admit a woman is smarter than you on this subject. I am a educator and researcher in primary pet care and rehabilitation. You better check your source's data to see where they compiled it from because that data does not exist. Law enforcement does not keep track of the data for what you are claiming for this research to be properly validated. Nor do any other types of agencies. You seem to just want to completely destroy a breed over some bad apples. There are many variables regarding this subject and I suggest you take your blinders off and educate yourself a bit more. As stated, pit bulls are excellent companion animals for the disabled. That fact you seem to have over looked.
CDC is that something to do with police?
scs over 60yr

Royal Oak, MI

#33 Mar 15, 2010
every thing in this is bull great way to go. scs50 you should read what you write before you write again.
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#34 Mar 15, 2010
scs50years wrote:
If you want to play the link game, here's one from a real source.

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_an...
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#35 Mar 15, 2010
scs50years wrote:
<quoted text> Please spare me the "Walt Disney" tear jerking "Petey" stories.
Wow even the Humane Society uses Petey. They must be friends with Walt.

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_an...
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#36 Mar 15, 2010
Pit Bulls are our friends. Don't listen to scs50years

http://www.hsus.org/about_us/offices_and_affi...
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#37 Mar 15, 2010
More lies don't read this there is no way Pit Bulls the former pet of choice in the 30s and 40s could be a good animal.

http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/pr...
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#38 Mar 15, 2010
How can all these people support an organization that fights to protect the pit bull breed?

"The Humane Society of the United States is the nation's largest animal protection organization — backed by 10.5 million Americans, or one of every 30. For more than a half-century, The HSUS has been fighting for the protection of all animals through advocacy, education, and hands-on programs. Celebrating animals and confronting cruelty."
scs51years

Royal Oak, MI

#39 Mar 15, 2010
scs51years wrote:
More lies don't read this there is no way Pit Bulls the former pet of choice in the 30s and 40s could be a good animal.
http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/pr...
The story behind the reward

In January 1993, heavy rains caused a dam to break miles upstream on the Tijuana River. Normally a narrow, three-foot-wide river, the dam break caused wild raging waters to isolate both people and animals for almost three months. When the dam first broke through, Lori and Dan Watkins and Weela went to a neighbor's ranch to try to rescue their friend's 12 dogs. Together, they worked for six hours battling heavy rains, strong currents, and floating debris before they were able to reach the ranch to rescue the dogs. The Watkins were amazed at Weela's extraordinary ability to recognize quicksand, dangerous drop-offs, and mud bogs. She worked diligently and never let up. Both the tenaciousness and strength of her bull dog ancestors were exhibited throughout the day. Lori Watkins said, "She was constantly willing to put herself in dangerous situations. She always took the lead except to circle back if someone needed help." Weela's instinctive judgments seemed to be accurate without exception. The Watkins attributed a great deal of their success in rescuing the neighbor's dogs to Weela's efforts.

During the next month, 17 dogs and one cat were found to be stranded on an island. On several occasions, Weela swam to the island, each time pulling 30 to 50 pounds of dog food that had been loaded into a backpack harnessed to her back. This took enormous strength as well as courage. Weela continued to provide these animals with food until they were finally evacuated on Valentine's Day.

During the peak of the flood, thirteen horses became stranded on a large manure pile where they had sought refuge from the raging waters. The frightened animals had become completely surrounded by flood waters. A rescue team used Weela to guide them through the rapidly flowing waters until all of the horses were finally brought to safe ground.

One day when Weela was returning from one of her food deliveries to stranded animals, she came upon a group of 30 people who were attempting to cross the flood waters. Weela became very excited. She refused to let them cross where they were trying to do so. She barked continuously and kept running back and forth, literally herding them to another place where it was safe to do so. Unwittingly, these people had been trying to cross the river at a point where the waters ran particularly fast and where the water was deepest. Weela knew that this was a dangerous spot, so she led them upstream to shallower water where the group was finally able to cross to the other side safely.

After several months, the Tijuana River finally became narrow and calm again. Once the emergency was over, there was no longer a need for a rescue dog, so Weela went back home to the ranch full-time to enjoy life as before. However, her community heroism was recognized. As the Ken-L-Ration's 40th award winner in their annual search for the most heroic dog in the nation, Weela received a certificate of merit, a silver-plated, engraved bowl, and a year's supply of Kibbles'n Bits dog food. Surely, the people she diverted from disaster and the animals she fed when the waters were raging around them will not forget her. Weela's life seemed to have found its purpose and destiny.
However, if you saw her today running around the ranch, you would think she was just a delightful but ordinary pet.
Hannah

Columbus, OH

#40 Mar 16, 2010
scs50years wrote:
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Who paid the vet bill for your dog?


When the cops drove me home so I could take her to the emergency vet that was the second stupid thing out of his mouth "I am not paying for any vet bills". Well he paid after I had animal control call him several times and I sent him a certified letter demanding payment with copies of the two vet visits. I still have the copy of the letter and the certified receipt that was signed.

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