$11,000 City Owned Condo Bid

$11,000 City Owned Condo Bid

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SCS Dragnet

Royal Oak, MI

#1 Dec 10, 2009
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.

Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive

"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."

Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke

Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?

Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.

Now everyone has the facts.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#2 Dec 10, 2009
SCS Dragnet wrote:
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.
Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive
"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."
Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke
Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?
Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.
Now everyone has the facts.
The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
SCS Dragnet

Royal Oak, MI

#3 Dec 10, 2009
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
Please provide that information then. Just coming on here giving general statements doesn't answer the question.

Where is it?
Insider

United States

#4 Dec 10, 2009
SCS Dragnet wrote:
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.
Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive
"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."
Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke
Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?
Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.
Now everyone has the facts.
With all these answered questions. I have a couple.
1). If the City Manager is so abreast of his employee's and is the first to defend them, Quote: "His Employee's" then why isn't he reprimanded for allowing these actions to take place, this should be performed by the council. Not one question from any of them in that regard. Makes you wonder. Also when that guy from Sabby's got up inquiring about a non-profit and gaming license or whatever, the council had the opportunity several times to ask who the officers of this organization were, why was that avoided completely makes a taxpayer really wonder. Meeting before last when the liquor license was approved for I believe Steves Back Room, did anyone notice Frederick announce Sarah Roberts town hall meeting and where it was going to be held. Makes you wonder!!
Insider

United States

#5 Dec 10, 2009
SCS Dragnet wrote:
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.
Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive
"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."
Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke
Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?
Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.
Now everyone has the facts.
I think maybe you should remove one of those 5's, it looks like a great profit.
Straw is a good start

Lake Orion, MI

#6 Dec 10, 2009
Insider wrote:
<quoted text>I think maybe you should remove one of those 5's, it looks like a great profit.
Hello Jack
Thomas

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#8 Dec 10, 2009
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
The city gets first dibs dummy.
Jack Downey

Brea, CA

#9 Dec 10, 2009
Thomas wrote:
<quoted text>The city gets first dibs dummy.
Well this is the third name change for you in five minutes, must have really got your nose opened tonight, are you Sandy or Thomas. Thats Ok were all rooting for your well being.
Casper

East Lansing, MI

#10 Dec 10, 2009
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
Hey Ron, How come you did not go to the PCB meeting at City Hall tonight?
Jack

Brea, CA

#11 Dec 10, 2009
Casper wrote:
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Hey Ron, How come you did not go to the PCB meeting at City Hall tonight?
Maybe its got something to do with the heat and the kitchen. I forget how that really goes, but he would have been mixing in with the crowd. I don't think he wants to answer to many questions. This will be a good diary to keep for up coming events!!!
40 Yr Res

Royal Oak, MI

#12 Dec 10, 2009
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
Yes I would like to see this information as well. Where is it since you are so sure?

Plese point the way for all to see.
Jack

Brea, CA

#13 Dec 10, 2009
40 Yr Res wrote:
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Yes I would like to see this information as well. Where is it since you are so sure?
Plese point the way for all to see.
I agree with you this guy gives alot of phony info.

Since: Mar 09

AOL

#14 Dec 11, 2009
40 Yr Res wrote:
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Yes I would like to see this information as well. Where is it since you are so sure?
Plese point the way for all to see.
The listing for this property and 2 others that the city is trying to sell were listed in the SCS Sentinel and Macomb Daily back in October or beginning of November. The ad also listed when the walk thru was for the homes. Still I cannot see how someone (Wolny) who is so unqualified in her position should be allowed to try and sell a house.

The new city manager will have his work cut out for him as he (she) will have to clean house in order to put a competent team together to get the city on the right track. 2010 will definetly be a year of change around here and in the state (bye bye Jenny)

Since: Feb 09

Novi, MI

#15 Dec 11, 2009
SCS Dragnet wrote:
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.
Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive
"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."
Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke
Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?
Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.
Now everyone has the facts.
what about the statement of sandy wolnes; "clerical error" regarding the omission of the $44,000 minumum bid?
who is responsible for a potential $33,000 clerical error? i just caught that while watching the taped meeting.
Trevor

Royal Oak, MI

#16 Dec 11, 2009
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
You are one piece of work. Did you read the info from the packet? Sandy also said that it was a clerical error that the min bid price was not in the ad. So why bring it before council then, re-run the ad with the min bid price and then come before council.

This does not bother you in anyway? My God what is wrong with you?
Phantom

Sterling Heights, MI

#17 Dec 11, 2009
SCS Dragnet wrote:
The following information is directly from the City Council Packets online.
Property 22821 Lakeshore Drive
"Bids were opened on November 10, 2009 for this property which was purchased from the county for back taxes in the amount of $7,505.43. To date we have expended an additional amount of $804.00 to clean the condo and change the locks. We incur monthly expense for the association fee in the amount of $190 and also the taxes which are approximately $2,000 per year. There was one sealed bid submitted for the condomminum in the amount of $11,555.555. If we accept the bid, we would make a small profit of $3,246.55 less the proration of taxes and oustanding association fees."
Bidder (From Bid Sheet): Paul Doppke
Question 1: Why was the general public not given the opportunity to buy this property for the back taxes owed?
Question 2: Why was Sandy involved in this process at all especially with the conflict of interest that her Dad sold it back to the city and Paul Doppke has contracts with the city of St. Clair Shores.
Now everyone has the facts.
Dragnet? Really? Why don't you go straight to the city and find out? Do your council people know the answer? Ask them! Ask them! Ask THEM!!
Jack

Brea, CA

#18 Dec 11, 2009
sal minnella wrote:
<quoted text> what about the statement of sandy wolnes; "clerical error" regarding the omission of the $44,000 minumum bid?
who is responsible for a potential $33,000 clerical error? i just caught that while watching the taped meeting.
Again, I don't believe any such thing about a clerical error, because when you place any advertisement, the sales person from the paper repeats the exact advertisement over the telephone with you, and in alot of time such as the Sentinel, they will send you a copy of your advertisement before it is published. This I believe is a total lie and Mr. Podolski should be held accountable by this present council and if not maybe there's more to it than meets the eye. After all Ms. Wolny admitted placing the advertisement and she reports and works for Mr. Podolski, when is this council going to get their head out of the sand and reprimand this moron.
Change please

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#19 Dec 11, 2009
But it helps when you have "inside information"....Right!?
Why didn't Paul bid $40,000 like the other condo's were selling for?
Did he happen to know how much the city had into the condo so he could bid a couple grand more then what is owed?
Talk to Paul's ex employees and they'll tell you what a con man he really is.(especially when it came to the "drive by snow shoveling")
WAS WHO KNOW THINKING 1 wrote:
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The public had a chance to buy the property for back taxes. You have to go to the county for the list. That is a fact. You did not check that out first.
Jack

Brea, CA

#20 Dec 11, 2009
Change please wrote:
But it helps when you have "inside information"....Right!?
Why didn't Paul bid $40,000 like the other condo's were selling for?
Did he happen to know how much the city had into the condo so he could bid a couple grand more then what is owed?
Talk to Paul's ex employees and they'll tell you what a con man he really is.(especially when it came to the "drive by snow shoveling")
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I agree with your statements Mike and Joe, your good ole buddy "Jack" This is what I can team work guys. ROLMFAO

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#21 Dec 11, 2009
Trevor wrote:
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You are one piece of work. Did you read the info from the packet? Sandy also said that it was a clerical error that the min bid price was not in the ad. So why bring it before council then, re-run the ad with the min bid price and then come before council.
This does not bother you in anyway? My God what is wrong with you?
This process is before the county let it go to the city. Wake up and read the notices if you want to get a house cheap.

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