Response to fire rekindles debate

[Concerned Citizen]

I'm not sure how it all works but, if they are a volunteer department like Pelican Bay, why would they think that we had money? Doesn't volunteer mean no money? Just checking.

[anybody]

Post #41 is not from the same anybody in post#40 and previous posts. But i do know why Briar's tanker was removed. It was sent to an area where the county thought it would be better used, because they said there were more structure fires and fires in general there. I have also heard that Brair has had thier engine reposed, but I can not confirm this.
Also my city has been changed along with others it seems.

[A Rainwater]

You are right concerned citizen. There is a small amount of funding available for covering certain districts, so by increasing their district, it may also increase county funding. However, it would also increase their costs, so it is not "money to be made" as some people think. Volunteer is just that and they exist mainly thru donations and fund raising. Few are allotted the budget that ours was under the previous regime. Especially with nothing to show for it. I know when I was on PB VFD, we existed almost solely on fundraisers. Any money allowed in the budget went almost exclusively on the fire truck payment. We worked almost every weekend on boot drives etc. Our haunted house was a big fundraiser for the year. And we still found time to do charitable things for others. Like Santa at Christmas. Just sayin.

[anybody]

Briar would not get any additional funding from the county, because Pelican Bay does not cover any county area. However, Pelican Bay does get county funding for running mutual aid calls in the county. I believe it is a yearly payment of about $6500.

[reality check]

A Rainwater wrote:

You are right concerned citizen. There is a small amount of funding available for covering certain districts, so by increasing their district, it may also increase county funding. However, it would also increase their costs, so it is not "money to be made" as some people think. Volunteer is just that and they exist mainly thru donations and fund raising. Few are allotted the budget that ours was under the previous regime. Especially with nothing to show for it. I know when I was on PB VFD, we existed almost solely on fundraisers. Any money allowed in the budget went almost exclusively on the fire truck payment. We worked almost every weekend on boot drives etc. Our haunted house was a big fundraiser for the year. And we still found time to do charitable things for others. Like Santa at Christmas. Just sayin.

AMEN to that all funds were raised by the members who not only donated thier time and lives But had o genuine concern for all its residents. Take a look at who responds to the calls in the bay. Do you ever see Pelican Bay? We used to see them drill Attend council meetings and be active in the community. Who IS ON THE FIRE DEPT NOW ?

[Anonymous]

julie wrote:

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Guess you would know but which one are you, the lowlife or the druggie? I think your the laughing stock of the criminals cause you can't seem to cipher the word law inforcement you mental giant.

Bring your college degree and I'll bring you mine. There are people here in the "bay" that might be more educated than you are. Just to bring it to your education... it is law "enforcement" not inforcement, lowlife or druggie? You failed on your spelling and it took a Pelican Bay resident to correct you. Go back to school or shut the hell up.

[Buzz]

"anybody wrote
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However, Pelican Bay does get county funding for running mutual aid calls in the county. I believe it is a yearly payment of about $6500.

Anybody, from what I've been told as of the 2010-2011 fiscal year the County ESD started paying all fire departments $ 9,500 yearly per mutual aid contract with other fire departments that has fire area in Tarrant County. The 2009-2010 fiscal year and previous years it was $ 7,500 per mutual aid contract.

[Anybody]

Buzz, What is your point? According to council members, Pelican Bay does not get any county funding now.

[Buzz]

I was letting you know, because your post said that you wasn't sure. Well, I've heard from council that they're going to try and get it back next year....

[Anybody]

Buzz, Thank you.

[tGc6921]

anybody wrote:

I like that idea. Let the current PBFD members become part of the BVFD with no strings attached.

ANY BVFD MEMBER COMES ON MY PROPERTY THEY WILL BE ESCORTED OFF bY SO I WILL NOT WATCH AN INNOCENT FIREFIGHTER GET KILLED BECAUSE OF ARROGANT A@@ HOLES

[tammy cartwright]

anybody wrote:

Briar would not get any additional funding from the county, because Pelican Bay does not cover any county area. However, Pelican Bay does get county funding for running mutual aid calls in the county. I believe it is a yearly payment of about $6500.

no pelican bay does not get any county funding they raise their own money thru fundraisers and city keeps up with checkbook

[tammy cartwright]

reality check wrote:

<quoted text>AMEN to that all funds were raised by the members who not only donated thier time and lives But had o genuine concern for all its residents. Take a look at who responds to the calls in the bay. Do you ever see Pelican Bay? We used to see them drill Attend council meetings and be active in the community. Who IS ON THE FIRE DEPT NOW ?

I am and I attend meetings and train every Thursday

[ihatebriar]

bad changes wrote:

HOW DARE YOU SAY that about Chief Stetzel?? YOU wouldn't have what you do if it wasn't for HIM!! You would still be using OLD, worn out bunker gear, using old equipment, NO brush truck, a safer (well as safe as can be) building!!
Don't know IF you were involved w/the dept about 5 years ago?? What a hell hole and disgusting people who "worked" there. Money, equipment, papers, everything was being stolen faster than it could get in the door!!
Stetzel DID a wonderful job as PBVFR chief. But just like anyone else who has tried to improve ANYTHING for the city, You can only be beat down so far before you say ENOUGH!!!!!
BUT don't worry your little heads off, Chief REED will SOON take over, THEN you'll see STRICT codes and most of you volunteers WILL BE GONE!!!

I tell u now if a briar or reef steps on my property or near my kids I will press charges they run people off road have no rules and thank god my uncle is a retired police chief they won't be around long also why would you want them they walked an left city high and dry

[ihatebriar]

bad changes wrote:

HOney charges were being filed against mitchell but city was advised against it for the best of the city. Reed was mayor and wanted mitchell's ass on a stick so don't you think he got away with his crimes unnoticed but he did return bunker gear when he knew a warrant was being issued for him, his house, car, job etc., once a crook always a crook, now honey get back to current events.

Mitchell is not a crook it did go to court federal court proven not guilty have a great day

[ihatebriar]

A Rainwater wrote:

<quoted text>I think you have that backwards. Active participation requires good leadership.

my husband was there a 15 year veteran from another department was an officer and I am sick of bad mouthing come see the great changes

[trans plant]

reality check check the old minutes from 10 years ago also check the last five years ago and find the truth if you did not vote then do not say one word you had your chance

[tammy cartwright]

I am the training coordinator and secretary I will gladly sit down and talk with you have a great day