Fire chief praises emergency crews

Emergency responders from throughout the region reported to the bus crash on Interstate 91 Friday, and by the end of the weekend, all of the victims who were treated in nearby hospitals had been sent home. Full Story
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flat lander

United States

#1 Dec 6, 2010
A great effort by all and also the "tri state dispatch out of Keene. All the cards were on the table, COLD, DARK, START OF RUSH HOUR AND THROUGH IT,MASS INJURIES, TYPE OF ENTRAPMENT and use of many departments and equipment. Gold Stars for our troops of emergency. THANK YOU ALL
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#2 Dec 6, 2010
Public communication was pathetic and grossly inaccurate...if we got into a large scale event we would quickly lost faith in government and everyone would have panicked.

It indicates a total waste of funding and effort post 9/11 and in the era of potential terrorism.

It is this insecure kinda sense of triumphal and happy altruism story that feed advertisement revenues...a paper who has this sense of formatting indicates they don't have the expertise and reach of knowing what really is going on.

If any of these insecure rescue or public safety organizations had any honor and professionalism, they'd be wringing their hands in worry to the public telling us we can do better next time, this is what we did wrong, there is where we will do better next time...we would see them as picayune and kind of negative. That is a sign of organizational healthy. I have the confidence to criticize and be critical of our behavior openly in anticipation of the bigger event.

I am telling you, there is a unholy alliance between these organizations and the newspapers, there is no competition...everyone washes each other backs for self interest. Nobody is secure and confident enough for the culture of criticism to emerge...a learning system. I'll bet you the newspaper fears being cut off from information with a organization they criticize.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#3 Dec 6, 2010
That is a sign of organizational health.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#4 Dec 6, 2010
I mean, you see these happy tunes altruism stories on the networks and bigger TV stations and newspapers...it is cheap stuff and it takes very little brain horsepower. Half the program is filled up with this puffery. It is happy time newsertainment...and it just doesn't help us to become a better nation.

What does it mean with the escapism of us all...where we crave this newsertainment?

News is suppose to help us coalesces into better towns, cities and metropolitan areas...it is not suppose to just fill up ten minutes of I am bored time or it is time for escapism. Or all we really want you people to do when watching the news is purchase commodities from our advertisers.

It is just another indication with how these mega corporations are decoupling and decoalescing us as a nation...
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#5 Dec 6, 2010
It is how altruism and doing good serves the interest of the rich and the corporations, does not really do any good to the people who matter. It is just a cheap image to get you to make you feel better about them...a tool to boost profits and steal nationhood from everyone.

It is altruism crimes against humanity...it is doing good to serve the rich, not doing good to serve the poor and vulnerable.

Jesus Christ would be knocking over tables, ranting and raving, he'd be shaking his fist in the air and lecturing everyone over what is wrong this system....

It is upside down love and it is a abomination to the planet's survival!
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#6 Dec 6, 2010
Hmm: infotainment
newsertainment or
newstainment

No more news anymore?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/12/05-0

Michael Copps, the Commissioner of the FCC, recently told Katty Kay of the BBC that we're not producing "news" the way we were decades ago, but instead our media have a "substance abuse" problem, cranking out only infotainment designed to generate profits. Copps said it's putting our very democracy at risk.
There are no more in-your-face examples of the death of real news than the distorted
TNB

Memphis, TN

#7 Dec 6, 2010
Mike,

Having a bad day? Forgot to take to take your daily medicine?

These first responders deserve our congratulations,
gratitude and respect! How you read something else
into this outcome says a lot about you and thankfully not about them!Moreover,these life savers were focused by their training and profesionalism on helping those who needed their help, not on how the "public" was informed of the events.You might be in some giant sound bite, fortunately most of the rest of us are not.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#8 Dec 6, 2010
We will leave that for everyone else to make that judgement...
TNB

Memphis, TN

#9 Dec 6, 2010
mike mulligan wrote:
We will leave that for everyone else to make that judgement...
Agree!
Southern VT firefighter

Alstead, NH

#10 Dec 6, 2010
Mike Mulligan,
You are a idoit.You do not know what its like to work this kind of job , I see pussies like you running the other way when the shit hits the fan, all the time , then to overhear your hero storys of how you saved the day . You have no place to comment on this , Goddard , Putney Fire , Rescue Inc. are some of the best providers in this state , and to hear you get on some political soapbox and pretend you have a clue , like I said , you are a idoit.I will not go into the 1000's of hours of training we do , alot of us as volenteers, to save your skins.
Your memory is clouded , as most people of Bratt wou;d remember not to long ago some bad storys coming from the reformer about a local responder agencey . To accuse us of no honor or professionalism ,well did I mention you are a asshole.
If you want to earn a right to speak on this, or teach us how to do better , you can start by going to your local Fire or Rescue Dept. spend countless hours to get your EMT, FF1 . certs. Then spend many , many hours away from your home and job to help strangers . Then mabey you would get more then other idoits agreeing with you .
GOD BLESS OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND EMT'S
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#11 Dec 6, 2010
That doesn't sound like a professional fire fighter language.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#12 Dec 6, 2010
Remember, I had gotten into a pretty bad bicycle accident with a concussion and brain contusion. I investigated the activities surrounding this. I documented the results on this message board.

The first person on the scene told me he had to talk to three people for the call to 911, it was a lengthy process...before a ambulances and police was on the way. He told me it took about 45 minutes for the ambulance to show up. I investigated why this occurred. I looked at Rescues documents...they got to me in less than 20 minutes from the when they were told about me. I had/have no problems with Rescues response time.

I worried about the clumsy chain of people and procedures before the call was sent to Rescue and the Brattleboro police department.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#13 Dec 6, 2010
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/brattleboro ...

Beginning on message #14 Sep 17, 2010
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#14 Dec 6, 2010
Sep 17, 2010

According to Rescue’s documents...they got the call at 20:26 and they were on the scene on my accident at 20:41... that is perfectly acceptable to me. They came with full lights and sirens.

But it is strange the stated time is exactly 15 minutes. I would have felt better if it like 17, 18 or 21 minutes...not some rounded number like 15 minutes.

They depart the scene at 2100, they arrive at the hospital at 2115, in service at 21:15, in quarters at 2130...I hate these rounded numbers....
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#15 Dec 6, 2010
Sep 17, 2010

So I get from Rescue, say if the call came in from Hinsdale through a cell phone contract purchased in Vermont. The 911 call could have gone up to the Keene Mutual aid call center, it might have gone up the Montpelier 911 call center...there the operators typically have to go through a lengthy questionnaire from the caller. Conceivably it could have gone to Keene 911 Mutual air, to the Montpelier 911 dispatch, to the Brattleboro fire station central dispatch, then by radio dispatch to Rescue.

It is interesting, when the Brattleboro fire call center dispatches a ambulance to Hinsdale, the Hinsdale police get a heads up and the police department has got a set of policies mandating a police response, a bike accident being one of them...from what I am told the police came rather quickly to the scene.

Did the dispatch centers eat up a half and hour?

Both me and my biking buddy had relatively minor injuries...but it looks like the ambulance only had one emt person in it and they took away two patients?

But I find no unsafety in this case.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#16 Dec 6, 2010
I'd like to ask the first person that called in the Putney Bus crash...what exactly did you have to go through in order to get the ambulances flowing and the state police involvement.

This is the state police territory...how long did it take to get them on the scene?

Was there any kind of 911 overload in any of the call centers associated with the Putney bus crash with phone or cell phone 911 call ins?

How do you make it more efficient?
Southern VT firefighter

Alstead, NH

#17 Dec 6, 2010
Mike , You dont know where you are coming from , I would stick to learning how to ride your bike better.
As far as my language , when Im not on shift , I can address idoits how ever I choose.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#18 Dec 6, 2010
Hell, after the fall, I couldn't remember my street addressed for a number of hours.

Pick you weapon, road bike or mountain bike...I'd kick your butt.

My best trip this year in one day/ 12 hours was a 80 mile road trip by bike. Hinsdale, Bellows Falls, Grafton, Townsend and back home.

The problem wasn't at all about bike skills...it was about my object arrogant stupidity driving without a helmet and lights in the dark. Come on, what are the chances of having a head on in the dark with another bicyclist as stupid as me. I was on my side of the road.

You better be keeping them straight !!!
SickOfIdiots

Montpelier, VT

#19 Dec 6, 2010
Southern VT firefighter wrote:
Mike , You dont know where you are coming from , I would stick to learning how to ride your bike better.
As far as my language , when Im not on shift , I can address idoits how ever I choose.
The idiot rides his bike in the dark with NO LIGHTS & then causes an accident. The sad part is that some poor person will have their life ruined because they run into this moron & kill him through no fault of their own.

I didn't think that the comments about the public "not being informed" made any sense at all. The responders were busy doing their jobs - which is their purpose - not informing the public of their every move in an emergency situation.

All the idiot had to do was turn on the news - the reporters were doing THEIR JOBS & telling the public what was going on. But apparently he is too stupid to figure that out too along with how to ride a bike safely at night with LIGHTS so people can see him.
mike mulligan

Boston, MA

#20 Dec 6, 2010
SickOfIdiots wrote:
<quoted text>
The idiot rides his bike in the dark with NO LIGHTS & then causes an accident. The sad part is that some poor person will have their life ruined because they run into this moron & kill him through no fault of their own.
I didn't think that the comments about the public "not being informed" made any sense at all. The responders were busy doing their jobs - which is their purpose - not informing the public of their every move in an emergency situation.
All the idiot had to do was turn on the news - the reporters were doing THEIR JOBS & telling the public what was going on. But apparently he is too stupid to figure that out too along with how to ride a bike safely at night with LIGHTS so people can see him.
You need to try harder.

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