Men plead not guilty to thefts

Men plead not guilty to thefts

There are 16 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Dec 2, 2009, titled Men plead not guilty to thefts. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

Two Brattleboro men pleaded not guilty to a string of burglaries in the tri-state area during a recent arraignment.

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Not enough being done

Westland, MI

#1 Dec 3, 2009
This kid is 23 years old! You state he is an "habitual offender", which means he has been in this system for awhile. Now what is concerning here is, what programs if any was given to this kid when he was in State custody? What was done to help him rejoin society? What skills was he taught? What education did the state offer him while in custody? I am told our tax dollars are used to help these guys and gals, to educate them and teach them skills . This shows me out taxes are not being used as we have been told. Once again, why is nothing being done to investigate these institutions we support? Exactly what are you doing to help these guys to stop this cycle? I don't want excuses , god knows we have had our fill of that, I want answers, and maybe a public response that shows what we pay for and how our taxes are being used in these Jails. What education is available not only for inmates but guards ,probation officers etc..
No one is unreachable, you treat a person with respect he will want to be a better person, but these guards and probation officers don't do that, and they know it and this cycle continues due to unreasonable demands, and talking down to them, these people who are suppose to help and support, do more damage than good .. its the system that needs changing or these cycles will continue to be repeated.
The Brattleboro informer

Sandy Hook, CT

#2 Dec 3, 2009
Not enough being done wrote:
This kid is 23 years old! You state he is an "habitual offender", which means he has been in this system for awhile. Now what is concerning here is, what programs if any was given to this kid when he was in State custody? What was done to help him rejoin society? What skills was he taught? What education did the state offer him while in custody? I am told our tax dollars are used to help these guys and gals, to educate them and teach them skills . This shows me out taxes are not being used as we have been told. Once again, why is nothing being done to investigate these institutions we support? Exactly what are you doing to help these guys to stop this cycle? I don't want excuses , god knows we have had our fill of that, I want answers, and maybe a public response that shows what we pay for and how our taxes are being used in these Jails. What education is available not only for inmates but guards ,probation officers etc..
No one is unreachable, you treat a person with respect he will want to be a better person, but these guards and probation officers don't do that, and they know it and this cycle continues due to unreasonable demands, and talking down to them, these people who are suppose to help and support, do more damage than good .. its the system that needs changing or these cycles will continue to be repeated.
Perhaps you can invite him to live with you.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#3 Dec 4, 2009
Not enough being done wrote:
This kid is 23 years old! You state he is an "habitual offender", which means he has been in this system for awhile. Now what is concerning here is, what programs if any was given to this kid when he was in State custody? What was done to help him rejoin society? What skills was he taught? What education did the state offer him while in custody? I am told our tax dollars are used to help these guys and gals, to educate them and teach them skills . This shows me out taxes are not being used as we have been told. Once again, why is nothing being done to investigate these institutions we support? Exactly what are you doing to help these guys to stop this cycle? I don't want excuses , god knows we have had our fill of that, I want answers, and maybe a public response that shows what we pay for and how our taxes are being used in these Jails. What education is available not only for inmates but guards ,probation officers etc..
No one is unreachable, you treat a person with respect he will want to be a better person, but these guards and probation officers don't do that, and they know it and this cycle continues due to unreasonable demands, and talking down to them, these people who are suppose to help and support, do more damage than good .. its the system that needs changing or these cycles will continue to be repeated.
Um, excuse me, this 23-year-old man (you call him a kid) is not the victim of these crimes, he is the perpetrator. I'm glad the police got to him before he got to me. As a cognizant adult he should answer for his actions according to the penalties provided by the law.
Think

Roslindale, MA

#4 Dec 4, 2009
Hate to point this out, but there are people that are never given a chance - and even when they ask, no one listens.
23 by today's standards is a kid - not a man.
This is what will continue to happen until we give equal opportunity for all - and I'll bet this kid is learning disabled and was never properly educated to begin with. Most everyone in prison in this state has a learning disability or a mental illness.
We all need to realize that it's too easy to just throw people away and be willing to put a little hard work into doing a better job with youth in general, education and job training.
No one who has a bright future resorts to criminal behavior.
It's really that simple.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#5 Dec 4, 2009
Think wrote:
Hate to point this out, but there are people that are never given a chance - and even when they ask, no one listens.
23 by today's standards is a kid - not a man.
This is what will continue to happen until we give equal opportunity for all - and I'll bet this kid is learning disabled and was never properly educated to begin with. Most everyone in prison in this state has a learning disability or a mental illness.
We all need to realize that it's too easy to just throw people away and be willing to put a little hard work into doing a better job with youth in general, education and job training.
No one who has a bright future resorts to criminal behavior.
It's really that simple.
You're in such a time warp! That kind of thinking was given a try in the 1970s, and the result of all that excusing and rationalizing and coddling was the biggest crime wave in the nation's history and cities so dangerous you didn't dare walk around. The criminals laughed at both law enforcement and the bleeding hearts like you who thought they understood the criminal mind but actually had no clue what they were dealing with.

I'm a Democrat, but I give Rudy Giuliani credit for cracking down on people like this serial burglar and making the city livable again. This particular criminal will get what he needs - time in prison to reflect on his offenses, and if he wants to, to get a degree and begin turning his life around.
estanson

Windsor, VT

#6 Dec 4, 2009
Think wrote:
This is what will continue to happen until we give equal opportunity for all.
While our country may have some problems...one of them IS NOT a lack of equal opportunity...

whether its taken is another story...
REALLY REAL VERMONTER

Roslindale, MA

#7 Dec 4, 2009
You are sadly misinformed; no one in a Vermont prison gets a degree. Period. They get no job training either. We just pay to house them for the duration and repeat the process after they're back out with no where to go and no hope at finding even the most menial work.
You must be on drugs; Logical thinking is not coddling, nor is it rationalizing; and Rudy has never been involved in Vermont politics.
Jase

Putney, VT

#8 Dec 4, 2009
This kid robbed my house stole two tvs, a laptop, two cameras, credit cards, and some of my son (who is 3) toys and movies.

Even my kid knows to respect others property.

Seriously, are you really saying it isn't his fault? I think it is people like you not enough being done who are really the problem in this society. IDIOT!
REALLY REAL VERMONTER

Roslindale, MA

#9 Dec 4, 2009
estanson wrote:
<quoted text>
While our country may have some problems...one of them IS NOT a lack of equal opportunity...
whether its taken is another story...
What planet are you from? There is a desperate lack of opportunity, let alone EQUAL opportunity in this country, on this planet.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#10 Dec 5, 2009
Maybe we should start some expensive social programs to help these criminals. Train them, give them therapy, create jobs for them.

Then other people will know what they need to do: Go out and rob some citizens, so they can get enrolled in the help programs. It's easier than going to the trouble to do well in school, look for a job afterward, and do well in your job so you can work your way up.

It worked well in the 1970s, didn't it?
Joe

Chester, VT

#11 Dec 5, 2009
REALLY REAL VERMONTER wrote:
<quoted text>
What planet are you from? There is a desperate lack of opportunity, let alone EQUAL opportunity in this country, on this planet.
we have a caste system, only jobs avaiable for people without connections are bottom feeder jobs. The key is making the connections, some people do it by going to college, others by building a good name around town. Ruin your name and lots of doors become locked real quick. Yeah Biff is handed it and others have to work their way up, people who work at getting a bad name aren't going to get ahead.
flat lander

United States

#12 Dec 5, 2009
They should put them in a stock were we all can kick their ass and then hang them. all the money they pour into rehabilitation of they moron loser won't change any of them. This is why the prisons are full for those that can be changed. If the police would shout more of them for resisting arrest instead of law injuries struggling with those who constantly break every law and challenge our safety and freedom. THE CRIMINAL HAS MORE RIGHTS THAN THE WORKER AND TAXPAYER. If you defend them your a loser more so than the criminals you defend. MIKE MULLIGAN this is your expertise of foolish behavior.
REALLY REAL VERMONTER

Roslindale, MA

#13 Dec 8, 2009
flat lander wrote:
They should put them in a stock were we all can kick their ass and then hang them. all the money they pour into rehabilitation of they moron loser won't change any of them.
Please quote your sources - because "money" and "rehabilitation" are two things that DO NOT EXIST for offenders - both BEFORE they actually commit crimes (Prevention) BUT especially AFTERWARD.
Your attitude is based in utter ignorance of what's really happening.. think before you start typing and ask yourself if you honestly know anything about the topic - you obviously know nothing but base your blather on assumptions alone.
flat lander

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#14 Dec 8, 2009
R R T huh? wow! attitude what's that mean! thinking and typing Isn't that fiction.
REALLY REAL VERMONTER

Roslindale, MA

#15 Dec 8, 2009
When you make a claim, cite your sources - as usual, with the crap you write, your source is pure imagination. Take your meds.
flat lander

United States

#16 Dec 8, 2009
R R T is a Idiot source is R R T answers you mean like that My source is my mother. and she doesn't date now

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