Sanders touts portions of Senate heal...

Sanders touts portions of Senate health care bill

There are 35 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Jan 13, 2010, titled Sanders touts portions of Senate health care bill. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

Sen. Bernard Sanders is the first to admit that the Senate's health care bill passed last month is less than perfect.

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huh

Springfield, MA

#1 Jan 13, 2010
they will do for the health care industry what they have done with GM, Chrysler and the financial industry that has been taken over by the DC thugs. They will decimate it and blame the leaders of the industry for the failure. then, we will be left with an empty shell of a health care system, slothing funds, as they are able from the bankrupt DC thugs. b e a utiful!!!!

what an obamanation.(mispelled purposely)

you are an accomplice bernie. thanks a pant load.
estanson

Windsor, VT

#2 Jan 13, 2010
huh wrote:
obamanation.(mispelled purposely)
that is pretty good...
did you make it up or see it somewhere...
jway

Muscle Shoals, AL

#3 Jan 13, 2010
huh wrote:
they will do for the health care industry what they have done with GM, Chrysler and the financial industry that has been taken over by the DC thugs. They will decimate it and blame the leaders of the industry for the failure. then, we will be left with an empty shell of a health care system, slothing funds, as they are able from the bankrupt DC thugs. b e a utiful!!!!
what an obamanation.(mispelled purposely)
you are an accomplice bernie. thanks a pant load.
Man that is a genius at work."obamanation" And Sanders you are part of the rotten corrupt cesspool in Washington. A revolution as so you stated, Cant come soon enough to get rid of you useless a----/
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#4 Jan 13, 2010
huh wrote:
they will do for the health care industry what they have done with GM, Chrysler and the financial industry that has been taken over by the DC thugs. They will decimate it and blame the leaders of the industry for the failure. then, we will be left with an empty shell of a health care system, slothing funds, as they are able from the bankrupt DC thugs. b e a utiful!!!!
what an obamanation.(mispelled purposely)
you are an accomplice bernie. thanks a pant load.
Crawl back in your cave, knuckle-dragger! You're clearly just one of those backwoods government-haters without a clue to hang onto.

You right-wing cuckoos howl about the prospect of a set of government bureaucrats administering your health insurance. You don't realize that, right now as we speak, you've got about 9 different sets of insurance company bureaucrats (one for each company) coming between you and your doctor. And these much worse than government bureaucrats, because they've got an incentive to deny your coverage, and you have to pay their salaries through your premiums.

And you geniuses think it's fine the way it is! Hahahaha!!!
Carol

Dover, NH

#5 Jan 13, 2010
New Clear Waste: You do realize don't you that Medicare denies a higher percentage of claims than all other insurance companies. If your insurance company denies your claim, you can file an insurance department complaint with the state and you always have the option of suing. If the federal government is running the system, who are you going to complain to and do you really think you can sue. Do I think the system is good, it could use improvement but if I got really sick I'd rather be in the US than anywhere else in the world.
spuds

Chester, VT

#6 Jan 13, 2010
The strength of a nation is in it's people to provide
for themselves so that they can fix their government when it is broken. Otherwise, they will live in an oppressive and possibly fascist state.
huh

Springfield, MA

#7 Jan 14, 2010
spuds wrote:
The strength of a nation is in it's people to provide
for themselves so that they can fix their government when it is broken. Otherwise, they will live in an oppressive and possibly fascist state.
Liberal fascism is on display in DC right now. Our countries decline is happening under the firm grip of them and their failed policies. They will not let go until voted out in November. They are daily demonstrating their hatred for all things American.(just like new clear waste demonstrates above) Their corrupt approach to every issue is disgusting. Hold onto your wallets!(unless you are a member of one of their special interest groups like unions or a needed Nebraska Senator)
jway

Muscle Shoals, AL

#8 Jan 14, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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Crawl back in your cave, knuckle-dragger! You're clearly just one of those backwoods government-haters without a clue to hang onto.
You right-wing cuckoos howl about the prospect of a set of government bureaucrats administering your health insurance. You don't realize that, right now as we speak, you've got about 9 different sets of insurance company bureaucrats (one for each company) coming between you and your doctor. And these much worse than government bureaucrats, because they've got an incentive to deny your coverage, and you have to pay their salaries through your premiums.
And you geniuses think it's fine the way it is! Hahahaha!!!
Go Canada or Europe an take Sanders with you/
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#9 Jan 14, 2010
huh wrote:
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Liberal fascism is on display in DC right now. Our countries decline is happening under the firm grip of them and their failed policies. They will not let go until voted out in November. They are daily demonstrating their hatred for all things American.(just like new clear waste demonstrates above) Their corrupt approach to every issue is disgusting. Hold onto your wallets!(unless you are a member of one of their special interest groups like unions or a needed Nebraska Senator)
Hahahaha!!!!!!!! You're probably peering out of your basement window, between the stacks of ammo and cases of Spaghetti-O's, waiting for your chance to come out and shoot the Government and raise the swastika.

You're an anti-patriot.
KeepOnTruckn

Westland, MI

#10 Jan 14, 2010
Well there's no point trying to deal with the mindsets of DemoKrats in this state so I will be sending a donation to Scott Brown in Mass. to start the ball rolling of handing Obamas azz to him early in the year. Bring on November.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#11 Jan 14, 2010
Carol wrote:
New Clear Waste: You do realize don't you that Medicare denies a higher percentage of claims than all other insurance companies
That's inaccurate. Medicare is accused of under-reimbursing providers, not denying claims.
Right Wing Extremist

Springfield, MA

#12 Jan 14, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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That's inaccurate. Medicare is accused of under-reimbursing providers, not denying claims.
Liar, the previous commentor was correct, it's published. You are just a liar.
huh

Springfield, MA

#13 Jan 14, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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Hahahaha!!!!!!!! You're probably peering out of your basement window, between the stacks of ammo and cases of Spaghetti-O's, waiting for your chance to come out and shoot the Government and raise the swastika.
You're an anti-patriot.
a lame projection from a liberal twit is always a good sign they can't stand to be faced with the truth. you are such a friggin loser.
Carol

Dover, NH

#14 Jan 14, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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That's inaccurate. Medicare is accused of under-reimbursing providers, not denying cl

According to AMA’s National Health Insurance Report Card, Medicare denies 6.85 percent of its claims, higher than any private insurer (Aetna was second, denying 6.80 percent of its claims), and more than double any private insurer’s average.

“Medicare was the most likely to deny any part of a claim, with a 6.9 percent rate. Aetna was a close second at 6.8 percent while the others ranged from 2.7 percent to 4.6 percent.

Coventry Health had the fastest median turnaround between receiving a claim and responding, at four days, according to the AMA. Medicare and CIGNA took a median 14 days; Humana and Aetna, 13 days; Health Net, 11; United Healthcare, 10 and Anthem, seven.”
aims.
Look it up.
huh

Springfield, MA

#16 Jan 15, 2010
Elmer Fudd wrote:
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Projecting again GFNB!
projecting and sniveling and lying, while his/her/it's statist heroes in DC are making the most corrupt of deals in the backrooms, with a majority of Americans against their tyrannical leap to taking over our healthcare industry. just like chavez and putin.

why shouldn't a union member have their taxes raised along with everyone else? why should 49 states have to subsidize medicaid for the state of Nebraska? why do we need illegal legislation, forcing people to buy health insurance?(there are hundreds of other destructive points to this bill, these are just for starters. the crooks are in for a shock, beginning next tuesday, and again in November. we need to abolish most of the destructive things these nanny state deviants have done to our country.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#17 Jan 15, 2010
huh wrote:
why shouldn't a union member have their taxes raised along with everyone else? why should 49 states have to subsidize medicaid for the state of Nebraska?
You're right about these. Privileged insiders are helping themselves at everyone else's expense. If there were some Republicans involved in the process, they could speak up and put a stop to some of these insider deals. Unfortunately they've taken their ball and gone home, they want the country to fail so they can get their power back. So they have no influence over legislation.
huh wrote:
why do we need illegal legislation, forcing people to buy health insurance?
Listen carefully: When only sick people buy insurance, it's unaffordable. To make it affordable everyone has to be in the system. It's not fair for people to avoid paying as long as they're healthy, and then they get old or have an accident or an illness, and suddenly they want benefits from a system they haven't been paying into. It only works if everyone is in.
duh wrote:
we need to abolish most of the destructive things these nanny state deviants have done to our country...tyrannical leap to taking over our healthcare industry. just like chavez and putin.
This is just right-wing hysteria.
beaglesarecute

White Plains, NY

#19 Jan 15, 2010
New clear waste wrote: Listen carefully: When only sick people buy insurance, it's unaffordable. To make it affordable everyone has to be in the system. It's not fair for people to avoid paying as long as they're healthy, and then they get old or have an accident or an illness, and suddenly they want benefits from a system they haven't been paying into. It only works if everyone is in.

My reply: Young people are getting the short end of this bill. Now not only do they pay the highest rates for auto insurance, now they have to pay higher rates for health insurance. Maybe, we should redesign auto insurance so everyone pays the same rate for it too. So what if you've had 4 or 5 accidents, we'll just raise everyone's premiums. How about homeowners insurance? People in low crime areas can start paying more for home insurance to help people who live in higher crime areas. So what if your house has burned down three or four times, we'll raise the premiums on everyone else. You want a dangerous dog - OK, everyone will help you pay for the liability.
I like it. Let's do it.
huh

Springfield, MA

#22 Jan 15, 2010
Health care is not an inalianable right, as stated by the radical dems. It also should not be forced upon the citizenry who do not want it by a very large and growing majority.

The radical leftists know they have limited time for their planned destruction (because they know the citizens do not want this bill) so they are hurrying it through with madness such as "this bill can never be abolished" nonsense. What ever happened to working for the people rather than the other way around. The VAST MAJORITY DOES NOT WANT THIS. DUMP IT!
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

#23 Jan 15, 2010
beaglesarecute wrote:
Young people are getting the short end of this bill. Now not only do they pay the highest rates for auto insurance, now they have to pay higher rates for health insurance. Maybe, we should redesign auto insurance so everyone pays the same rate for it too. So what if you've had 4 or 5 accidents, we'll just raise everyone's premiums. How about homeowners insurance? People in low crime areas can start paying more for home insurance to help people who live in higher crime areas. So what if your house has burned down three or four times, we'll raise the premiums on everyone else. You want a dangerous dog - OK, everyone will help you pay for the liability.
I like it. Let's do it.
I never said everyone should pay the same rates. But your comparison is bizarre. Let's straighten it out: Rates are differentiated according to risk factors THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTROL, i.e. tobacco & alcohol use, weight, exercise, etc. You can't discriminate by age, gender, genetics, pre-existing conditions, or other things beyond people's control. But everyone eventually needs health care, and you can't just join when you happen to need it, therefore everyone has to be in all along.

This never resulted in individuals becoming slaves to the state in other countries, any more than universal auto insurance did, as the Tea Partiers would have you believe.
spuds

Stowe, VT

#24 Jan 15, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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I never said everyone should pay the same rates. But your comparison is bizarre. Let's straighten it out: Rates are differentiated according to risk factors THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTROL, i.e. tobacco & alcohol use, weight, exercise, etc. You can't discriminate by age, gender, genetics, pre-existing conditions, or other things beyond people's control. But everyone eventually needs health care, and you can't just join when you happen to need it, therefore everyone has to be in all along.
This never resulted in individuals becoming slaves to the state in other countries, any more than universal auto insurance did, as the Tea Partiers would have you believe.
It should be my choice if I want to buy health insurance, pay for it myself, or crawl off and die! People only buy car insurance if they own a car. Your ilk are telling me I have to buy insurance if I own a body, yet I should have a right to an abortion. In one case the government can tell me what to do because of my body and in the other case it's off limits. Typical centralist B.S.!!!

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