Marijuana causes depression, experts say

May 11, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WFIE-TV Evansville

“They put on a happy face, they look as if they're achieving the things they need to achieve, doing the things they need to do, because they feel their parents are already over-stressed with long commutes and two jobs”

Teenagers appear to be using marijuana to fight depression, the government said Friday. via WFIE-TV Evansville

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weed causing depression it totally different then kids smoking it cause their depressed.

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it relieves pressure..which is the opposite of depression
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made me depressed all the time.
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im happy when i smoke weed... plus it clears my mind so i can sort things out in my likfe
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I think weed sometimes helps depression by helpin you forget about everything
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Marijuana may effect people differently, but for me personally, it does have a calming effect, and it does make me feel less depressed.

The main draw back concerning marijuana is the police.

And the real reason there are laws prohibiting the use of marijuana has nothing to do with what is morally right, or what is safe, it has to do with money and money only.

You see,

Congress made marijuana illegal because the American alcohol companies paid them lots of money to create the law to make it illegal.

The alcohol companies did this, because you can grow marijuana practically anywhere, and it would have put the American alcohol companies out of business.

That’s it kids, that’s why it is illegal.

Not cause its bad for you, but because the US corrupt lawmakers made it illegal because they get paid lots of money by the alcohol companies.

Alcohol is the drug that is far worse than any other in America.

But of course, all of congress enjoy their booze and money and hookers, so why should they care about the American people?

Our government is being ran by a bunch of self serving criminals.
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Dr Cheech wrote:
Marijuana may effect people differently, but for me personally, it does have a calming effect, and it does make me feel less depressed.
The main draw back concerning marijuana is the police.
And the real reason there are laws prohibiting the use of marijuana has nothing to do with what is morally right, or what is safe, it has to do with money and money only.
You see,
Congress made marijuana illegal because the American alcohol companies paid them lots of money to create the law to make it illegal.
The alcohol companies did this, because you can grow marijuana practically anywhere, and it would have put the American alcohol companies out of business.
That’s it kids, that’s why it is illegal.
Not cause its bad for you, but because the US corrupt lawmakers made it illegal because they get paid lots of money by the alcohol companies.
Alcohol is the drug that is far worse than any other in America.
But of course, all of congress enjoy their booze and money and hookers, so why should they care about the American people?
Our government is being ran by a bunch of self serving criminals.
I agree with Dr Cheech :)
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Yea, weed helps support the growing illegal Mexican drug trade, and you know Americans need to help subsidize that, and support the Mexican Drug lords to in their effort to supply drugs to the United States and the teens and kids just starting out in drugs, and the still addicted boomers left over from the 60's and 70's.

Plus, it helps medicate and dull down their real problems, which are spiritual in nature so they don't have to think about maybe CHANGING THEM.??

People need to grow up and come to the realization that there is a God in heaven who is more than willing to help and heal them.....and show them they don't need drugs.

I get High from the Most High.

http://christianity.about.com/od/depressionan...
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atlboit86 wrote:
it relieves pressure..which is the opposite of depression
I AGREE. DOES NOT cause depression.
It actually helps depression.

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With some people Mike, it causes paranoia.

And...bottom line. It does not get at the root cause of the depression.

I've been down this road and tried it all. Drugs don't heal depression. At best, all it does is dum you down, and mask the real problem.
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DEPRESSED?Must be smokin something different than me.HA!
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First off, this is a drug war against pot that will never win. We are spending billions in taxes to combat marijuana when we should be taxing it.

Marijuana is a much safer alternative than alcohol. So here we are wasting more time and money on an issue that WILL NEVER BE WON BY YOU NUTBAGS.

Meanwhile, Philip Morris is poisoning our kids...

Glad to know we have our priorities straight.
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Oh and just for the record, anyone here who drinks and is against keeping marijuana illegal is a hypocrite. Alcohol is actually categorized as a depressant drug.
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If pot were legal, here’s how much money would be injected into the economy:
In 2000, there were 734,000 pot arrests. This amounts to about 10% of the “open” marijuana smoking population in the USA, probably less.

By “open”, I mean those folks who are open about smoking pot, not “closet pot smokers” who keep it a secret from everyone else but their dealer because they fear losing their jobs.
So, if there are 10 million pot smokers in the USA and the average pot smoker smokes 2 grams (2 joints) per day at a cost of about $7.00 per gram, this is what would happen:
$14.00 per day X 365 days =$5,110.00 per year per person.
That’s about $511 MILLION a year.
Now you need coffeeshops to sell the weed, so you have to build them.
Amsterdam, for example has 200-300 coffeeshops.
It takes 4-8 people to build one house, or, in this case one coffeeshop. That’s 800-2,400 jobs created in one city.
Then you need staff to run those shops. That takes 4 people per shop. That’s another 800-1,200 jobs created in one city.
If only 2 cities in each of our 50 states had these coffeeshops, there would be 3,200 – 7,200 jobs created in each state. That means 160,000 – 360,000 jobs would be created nationwide.
AND WE HAVEN’T EVEN GROWN THE WEED YET!!!

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If pot were legal, here’s how much money would be injected into the economy:
In 2000, there were 734,000 pot arrests. This amounts to about 10% of the “open” marijuana smoking population in the USA, probably less.
By “open”, I mean those folks who are open about smoking pot, not “closet pot smokers” who keep it a secret from everyone else but their dealer because they fear losing their jobs.
So, if there are 10 million pot smokers in the USA and the average pot smoker smokes 2 grams (2 joints) per day at a cost of about $7.00 per gram, this is what would happen:
$14.00 per day X 365 days =$5,110.00 per year per person.
That’s about $511 MILLION a year.
Now you need coffeeshops to sell the weed, so you have to build them.
Amsterdam, for example has 200-300 coffeeshops.
It takes 4-8 people to build one house, or, in this case one coffeeshop. That’s 800-2,400 jobs created in one city.
Then you need staff to run those shops. That takes 4 people per shop. That’s another 800-1,200 jobs created in one city.
If only 2 cities in each of our 50 states had these coffeeshops, there would be 3,200 – 7,200 jobs created in each state. That means 160,000 – 360,000 jobs would be created nationwide.
AND WE HAVEN’T EVEN GROWN THE WEED YET!!!
The ONLY reason I can see legalizing marijuana is that it would nip the illegal drug traffic across the Mexican border in the bud, and starve out the drug lords that orchestrate it.

Also, I heartily approve what they are now doing in California, allowing marijuana for use by cancer patients, who suffer from horrible nausea.

One of the biggest problems with cancer patients taking chemo is the nausea, and the resulting weight loss contributes to fatal health decline and death. To withhold marijuana in these cases is nothing short of barbaric.

But to just cut everybody loose to smoke weed, knowing that there are going to be idiots that abuse it, I for one don't want to be out on a street or highway with some super doped up moron coming out of a marijuana coffeehouse, anymore than I do a drunk or someone who's high on some other substance, some of which might be in the prescription drug class.

I've just been through this nightmare with a son of mine. A doctor began prescribing pain pills for a shoulder injury, and then he starting abusing those along with the beer that he ususally drank, maybe a six pack over the course of the evening after work.

But once he started mixing, it became a total nightmare. Dealing with this in my family was the worst thing that I'd ever experienced. I thank God that miraculously, he is TOTALLY off all drugs, alcohol, prescription drugs and pot, and I've never seen him happier or more productive, and his business is thriving.

To me, prescription drugs are the plague of the United States and will destroy this country. Far worse than pot ever could be.

I just wish people didn't have this compelling need to get high and dabble with mind altering substances.

I've found that being in the here and now and having your mind clear is a beautiful feeling.

Anyway, LM, you're on a mind trip if you think marijuana will ever be legalized in the US. It just ain't gonna happen.
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Real Healing 4 You wrote:
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The ONLY reason I can see legalizing marijuana is that it would nip the illegal drug traffic across the Mexican border in the bud, and starve out the drug lords that orchestrate it.
Also, I heartily approve what they are now doing in California, allowing marijuana for use by cancer patients, who suffer from horrible nausea.
One of the biggest problems with cancer patients taking chemo is the nausea, and the resulting weight loss contributes to fatal health decline and death. To withhold marijuana in these cases is nothing short of barbaric.
But to just cut everybody loose to smoke weed, knowing that there are going to be idiots that abuse it, I for one don't want to be out on a street or highway with some super doped up moron coming out of a marijuana coffeehouse, anymore than I do a drunk or someone who's high on some other substance, some of which might be in the prescription drug class.
I've just been through this nightmare with a son of mine. A doctor began prescribing pain pills for a shoulder injury, and then he starting abusing those along with the beer that he ususally drank, maybe a six pack over the course of the evening after work.
But once he started mixing, it became a total nightmare. Dealing with this in my family was the worst thing that I'd ever experienced. I thank God that miraculously, he is TOTALLY off all drugs, alcohol, prescription drugs and pot, and I've never seen him happier or more productive, and his business is thriving.
To me, prescription drugs are the plague of the United States and will destroy this country. Far worse than pot ever could be.
I just wish people didn't have this compelling need to get high and dabble with mind altering substances.
I've found that being in the here and now and having your mind clear is a beautiful feeling.
Anyway, LM, you're on a mind trip if you think marijuana will ever be legalized in the US. It just ain't gonna happen.
I'm somewhat impressed that you actually have some understanding of this issue. Most people who are against it's legalization have no idea why they are, they just know that "drugs are bad."

So to that end, I'm not going to ramble on about how this is a war that will never be won (by either side) and will continue to tie up massive amounts of tax money and government resources (which the police in the suburbs do appreciate considering they have nothing else to do other than hand out tickets).

I will quarrel with only one statement you've made, then leave it at that.
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But to just cut everybody loose to smoke weed, knowing that there are going to be idiots that abuse it, I for one don't want to be out on a street or highway with some super doped up moron coming out of a marijuana coffeehouse, anymore than I do a drunk or someone who's high on some other substance, some of which might be in the prescription drug class.
Why would you assume people that use it are going to be idiots? People walk around high on pot all the time and are functional and don't cause problems like drunks.

You say you wouldn't want to be on the road with someone who's high on pot anymore than you would someone who's drunk? Are you sure about that? I'm not saying its okay to get high and drive. What I am saying is that it's not even comparable to the dangers of drunk driving. I challenge you to do your research a little better on that one.

I don't like to drink alcohol. I like to smoke pot. It's relaxing and doesn't cause problems. Why shouldn't I even be allowed to in the privacy of my own home?

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Scott, you have NO argument from me on the issue of drunk drivers being the major highway hazard innocent drivers have to be aware of today.

However, do we have to compare apples and oranges on this issue?

I am opposed to ANYONE out on public highways driving under the influence of mind altering substances, whether the influence is alcohol, illegal drugs such as meth, prescription drugs or for that matter, marijuana.

The key words in my post that you seem to object to were, as I recall, "super doped up moron coming out of a coffeehouse and getting behind the wheel of a vehicle". I can be reasonably sure, judging from your post, that although you use pot, you don't fit into that catagory.

Unfortunately, some people do. And Scott, to be fair, you must realize that not all people react to pot in the same way. There are some who it affects differently, and some who do not use "responsibly".

As for me, I could care less what people do in the privacy of their own homes. That's right. People shouldn't try to legislate "morality" or at least, their version of it. The only thing that should be legislated is what is for the welfare of the general public.

Of course, there are, as you'd indicated, those who walk around "high" all day long and don't cause the problems that drunks do. Okay, I agree, it's when they get behind the wheel of a vehicle that I draw the line....if they're "high", they're "high".

Scott, there's probably very little research I would have to do on the problems with alcoholics. I was married to one. Almost murdered by another combo alcoholic/pot head.

And have had a son who was not only addicted to alcohol but had been, unbeknownst to me, addicted to pot from grade school by his own admission. And when I say addicted, I mean really addicted.
Spending most of his salary on the high cost of pot was crazy. But that's what he did.

Then later, the coup de gras on his addictions was when he got seriously hooked on prescription drugs on top of all that. So, the trouble with the law began bigtime.

I used to do some partying myself, but I can tell you I am not impressed with any mind altering substances these days, because of the hell I've been put through in my own family, and the pain I've felt to spend sleepless nights thinking about my son in jail and wondering if this would ever end.

Thankfully for me, and him, it did.

I just don't see how, Scott, you can legalize pot and separate out the users from the abusers and legislate that and make it stick.

It hasn't ever worked with alcohol and I doubt if it could be with pot.

And now, we have another nightmare added to the mix , and that's prescription drugs and meth.

The best thing I can say about pot is that no one has ever OD'd on it physically to my knowledge.

I don't drink. I used to sort of like it, but can't stand the stuff now.

Scott, you can make yourself miserable wishing for something that's never going to happen. I'm not going to win the lottery either, but if it were that important to me as it seems to be to you to be able to use legally without fear of being arrested as a law breaker, I would move to Amsderdam, or at least Canada. I'm not being facetious about that in any way...I'm just saying, it might be worth a thought.

Since this last election, a lot of us are thinking about doing exactly that. Getting the hell out of Dodge.
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Your son who was "really addicted"....we need to acknowledge that this was a psychological addiction. It's not the same as being addicted to alcohol or any real drug. It drained his wallet... that's the worst that will come out of it.

A pothead isn't going to shoot someone over a dime bag anymore than they would over a gallon of expensive gasoline.

Like you said, you can't regulate it, and thats my point. Your viewpoint is that we should continue to flush money down the drain to fight something very harmless and mispercieved.
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As for me, I could care less what people do in the privacy of their own homes. That's right. People shouldn't try to legislate "morality" or at least, their version of it. The only thing that should be legislated is what is for the welfare of the general public.
Prohibition is not in the best interest of the welfare of the general public. And the government has not done the public any favors by the DEA's anti marijuana advertisements that are false and misleading.

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Scott wrote:
Your son who was "really addicted"....we need to acknowledge that this was a psychological addiction. It's not the same as being addicted to alcohol or any real drug. It drained his wallet... that's the worst that will come out of it.
A pothead isn't going to shoot someone over a dime bag anymore than they would over a gallon of expensive gasoline.
Like you said, you can't regulate it, and thats my point. Your viewpoint is that we should continue to flush money down the drain to fight something very harmless and mispercieved.
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Prohibition is not in the best interest of the welfare of the general public. And the government has not done the public any favors by the DEA's anti marijuana advertisements that are false and misleading.
Well, Scott, this subject has been cussed and discussed endlessly. If you really want to change the laws concerning the legalization of pot, you probably need to take your arguments to the legislators, who will then no doubt discuss them over cocktails and then in order to scratch each others politically correct asses, laugh in your face.

I'm not being mean here, but if indeed, I have a viewpoint and a battle to fight, it would be for firing most of the legislators and changing the court system.

My son spent 3 1/2 months in a stinking county jail because of local pot laws where in some states it would have been a slap on the wrist, fines to fill the city or county coffers and keep the DEA going and that would be it. Here, they want to draw blood.

And he was threatened with 40 yrs, if you can believe it, for smoking a joint with a county narc, and that because of entrapment.

I'm not going to even relate to you what that cost me in terms of legal fees and grief to even be able to get him off that easy.

All because of his "psychological" addiction.
That addiction drained his wallet, and drew down my bank account which could have been used to set him up in business, put a felony on his record and has hampered his job capabilities although he is good looking, has a killer personality and is multi-talented.

Thank God, he's off All this crap now.

What I tell him is that look, if you want to do this, your on your own from here on out. Don't call me if you get busted.

Bottomline...pot is illegal in the United States. Obey the law of the land, period. Then you don't have to live looking over your shoulder.

It's just about as simple as that. Some things you just have to accept and go on. I don't like the way the IRS is set up, and the way the government spends my tax money but that's just the way it is.
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Well, Scott, this subject has been cussed and discussed endlessly. If you really want to change the laws concerning the legalization of pot, you probably need to take your arguments to the legislators, who will then no doubt discuss them over cocktails and then in order to scratch each others politically correct asses, laugh in your face.
LOL. This is true.
I'm not being mean here, but if indeed, I have a viewpoint and a battle to fight, it would be for firing most of the legislators and changing the court system.
While it's a worthy cause, the main reason why marijuana is illegal is because the public is misinformed.
My son spent 3 1/2 months in a stinking county jail because of local pot laws where in some states it would have been a slap on the wrist, fines to fill the city or county coffers and keep the DEA going and that would be it. Here, they want to draw blood.
And he was threatened with 40 yrs, if you can believe it, for smoking a joint with a county narc, and that because of entrapment.
Yes, I can definitely see why your fight would lay with your judicial system.
I'm not going to even relate to you what that cost me in terms of legal fees and grief to even be able to get him off that easy.
All because of his "psychological" addiction.
That addiction drained his wallet, and drew down my bank account which could have been used to set him up in business, put a felony on his record and has hampered his job capabilities although he is good looking, has a killer personality and is multi-talented.
That's his fault and the fault of those who vow to keep marijuana illegal. You can't blame this on marijuana. Doing so is a cop out at the expense of others who use it responsibly as a medicine or recreation.
Bottomline...pot is illegal in the United States. Obey the law of the land, period. Then you don't have to live looking over your shoulder.
It's just about as simple as that. Some things you just have to accept and go on. I don't like the way the IRS is set up, and the way the government spends my tax money but that's just the way it is.
Oh, well it doesn't sound like you're against marijuana being legalized. You're cool with me then =)

Glad we finally got to the bottom of that one.

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