Obama's Gramps: Marching across Franc...

Obama's Gramps: Marching across France with the Ninth Air Force...

There are 37 comments on the Hartford Courant story from May 30, 2009, titled Obama's Gramps: Marching across France with the Ninth Air Force.... In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Ralph Emerson Dunham, 92, President Barack Obama's great-uncle on his mother's side, looks at an old address book while talking to the Associated Press at a retirement community Tuesday, May 26, 2009, in Springfield, Va.

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KAG

Chicago, IL

#22 May 31, 2009
HOOSIER wrote:
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Notice that the rare demoncrat oster in trhese boards never has anything intelligent to say? And they all seem to be from chicago
Nice spelling, retard!

Obama won, and so far he's doing quite well, and getting high approval ratings. Ha-ha-ha!

“GW BUSH Started this Bail Out.”

Since: Dec 06

born in Buffalo,

#23 May 31, 2009
Morton mike wrote:
YOu want to check out liberals. Ask them if they know what HR 1388 means. This is an executive order that our Community Organizer slipped under the radar screen Wednesday night when nobody would notice. This order allows 20.3 million of our tax payer dollars to go for the immigration of Hamas Refugees. Sound ridiculous. This administration is ruthless. If we as conservatives think this guy is only going to last 1 term, that is only wishful thinking. Don't bet that he won't try to change the law and run for more than 2 terms. RUTHLESS
Maybe you might check out that this is a HOAX being spread by the RIGHT WING Hate mongers
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/...

It is totally untrue and a Big LIE

“GW BUSH Started this Bail Out.”

Since: Dec 06

born in Buffalo,

#24 May 31, 2009
OH! Let us not forget that GW Bush's grandfather SUPPORTED Hitler before we entered WWII.

How well the right wing can say how bad our guy is but there guy is GOD>

GW needs to be tried for going AWOL from the Air Force during time of war. Him and Dick need to be tried for their War Crimes.
Some leader you all had appointed to the WH

“Make America Great Again”

Since: Jun 07

Bring Obama Back!

#25 May 31, 2009
Outfuckinrageous wrote:
This Barry fella
uses whitey when
it is for politics.
Otherwise, he's a dark homee.
I want to thank all of you pathetic right-wingers for the great entertainment over these past 7 months. I get great pleasure and joy out of your intense anger, bitterness, pain and suffering. It just eats away at you that the patriotic majority of the country came out in record numbers to landslide President Obama into the White House. You seethe every time that his teleprompter [dripping with sarcasm] giving him some of thee most powerful and elegant speeches to read. The Somali pirates learn just like the GOP did not to mess with this President and country.
(I noticed that you right-wing fools haven't mentioned that American ships haven't been hijacked since President Obama gave the Navy Seals the green light to successfully end that hostage situation).
It has been so much fun laughing at your agony. I must be so frustrating for you to see President Obama's poll numbers hovering in the high 60s. You fools are in such disarray as Rush and the other racist of the GOP seal the door to keep the Hispanic community out of your Party for good. I am so happy and I partly credit it to the unpatriotic idiots on the right.
Mr Giblets

India

#26 May 31, 2009
toadspad wrote:
OH! Let us not forget that GW Bush's grandfather SUPPORTED Hitler before we entered WWII.
How well the right wing can say how bad our guy is but there guy is GOD>
GW needs to be tried for going AWOL from the Air Force during time of war. Him and Dick need to be tried for their War Crimes.
Some leader you all had appointed to the WH
So did Joe Kennedy, the patriarch of the sainted Kennedys, so don't chuck any stones there.
Just me

East Stroudsburg, PA

#27 May 31, 2009
Jamal wrote:
Notice how Obama wants to identify with his white uncle and grandfather but nary a mention of his black grandfather, his myriad of black uncles, brothers and sisters. What were THEY doing in World War Two...or yesterday for that matter? In his books, Obama decried his white heritage, including his white grandmother who raised him. He didn't even mention his white grandfather's or uncle's heroics or achievements in his books. But now, it serves him to identify with them rather than his mysterious other side. Why?
He's looking darker to me all the time.
Konnecticut Better Yet

Norwich, CT

#28 May 31, 2009
toadspad wrote:
OH! Let us not forget that GW Bush's grandfather SUPPORTED Hitler before we entered WWII.
How well the right wing can say how bad our guy is but there guy is GOD>
GW needs to be tried for going AWOL from the Air Force during time of war. Him and **** need to be tried for their War Crimes.
Some leader you all had appointed to the WH
In addition to the above, we have barry fraternizing with Chavez and Castro, not to mention the constitution hating subversives he filled the white house with.And by the way, Bush was never in the Air Force. Your information is either selective or just plain wrong.
Outfuckinrageous

Champaign, IL

#30 May 31, 2009
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
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I want to thank all of you pathetic right-wingers for the great entertainment over these past 7 months. I get great pleasure and joy out of your intense anger, bitterness, pain and suffering. It just eats away at you that the patriotic majority of the country came out in record numbers to landslide President Obama into the White House. You seethe every time that his teleprompter [dripping with sarcasm] giving him some of thee most powerful and elegant speeches to read. The Somali pirates learn just like the GOP did not to mess with this President and country.
(I noticed that you right-wing fools haven't mentioned that American ships haven't been hijacked since President Obama gave the Navy Seals the green light to successfully end that hostage situation).
It has been so much fun laughing at your agony. I must be so frustrating for you to see President Obama's poll numbers hovering in the high 60s. You fools are in such disarray as Rush and the other racist of the GOP seal the door to keep the Hispanic community out of your Party for good. I am so happy and I partly credit it to the unpatriotic idiots on the right.
Tax and spend is making our money worthless. As for Barry's speech's he steals them from his truly black friends.

And doesn't a 28 year old punk kid write most of them? Small minded ghetto people have only change left in their pockets! Steak for me!
Enjoy the roaches crawling up your bum and your snatch in public housing!
swen rettel

United States

#31 May 31, 2009
Anon Y Mouse wrote:
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Uhm, I suggest you re-read the article. Obama's grandfather was a rear echelon guy who didn't see any action. He should consider himself lucky that he wasn't in combat.
My father won an 'all expense paid trip' to see the beautiful European countryside on his 18th birthday back in '44. He was a replacement in the 14th Armored Division after some heavy fighting during the 'Battle of the Bulge'. He saw combat and wouldn't talk much about his war experience except after VE day when he was guarding POWs.
Anyone who served should be recognized, but to call them heroes diminishes the efforts of those who really were heroes.
I don't know anything about obama's grandparent. I never used the word heroe for the reason you mentioned. i said special.i had many relatives in WW2 including my fatherinlaw who landed in the normandy invasion and fought in the Bulge and all the way to germany plus he didnt have to serve he joined at the age of 33 because he wanted too.He never bragged about it.these guys were all special.wether they saw combat or not.
Captain A

United States

#32 May 31, 2009
Jamal wrote:
Notice how Obama wants to identify with his white uncle and grandfather but nary a mention of his black grandfather, his myriad of black uncles, brothers and sisters. What were THEY doing in World War Two...or yesterday for that matter? In his books, Obama decried his white heritage, including his white grandmother who raised him. He didn't even mention his white grandfather's or uncle's heroics or achievements in his books. But now, it serves him to identify with them rather than his mysterious other side. Why?
The only thing that his Black side of the family did was to abandoned him and let the responsible Whites raise him. So it dosnt matter if black children are from America or Africa they are almost all abandoned by the black father. Obama was raised totally by Whites and went to almost all White schools. He was raised with NO African American influence...totally with White values raised by Whites. So why dose Mr Obama now say he is the first Black president then? He has no "Slave Bllood" in his viens...at best he is a White-African African, no African American what so ever. Obama is a fraud by trying to call him self a Black president. This liberal socalist is all about RACIAL politics and picks and chooses what color benefits him most.He will call upon the great accomplishments of his White side of the family when it comes to serving in the war...but he will never say the word WHITE anywhere he just references his grandfather. When it comes to being Black he will use Black all the time and call out to the African side of the family. Its just like American politics to give credit to the non producers and say and do nothing for the people that are the producer4s in this great country.

Barry (Barak) Obama is a white product of White schools and Whites raising him and a Leftist perversion of his life because he picked up the physical attributes of his Sperm spreading machine father....how many wives and illegitimate children did this guy knock out? It is a good thing that Barry Obama got the benefit of white family values.

“GW BUSH Started this Bail Out.”

Since: Dec 06

born in Buffalo,

#33 Jun 1, 2009
You got to be kidding me that looser was in the Air Force get your facts in a row.
Do your homework before you put that size 13 in your mouth again
May 28, 1968: Bush enlists as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group, Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, and is selected to attend pilot training.
July 12, 1968: A three-member board of officers decides that Bush should get a direct commission as a second lieutenant after competing airman's basic training.
July 14 to Aug. 25, 1968: Bush attends six weeks of basic training at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas.
Sept. 4, 1968: Bush is commissioned a second lieutenant and takes an 8-week leave to work on a Senate campaign in Florida.
Nov. 25, 1968 to Nov. 28, 1969: Bush attends and graduates from flight school at Moody Air Force Base, Georgia.(UTP Course #P-V4A-A Moody AFB, Ga. 53 weeks November 1969)
January 1,1970 147th changes from doing Alerts to training F-102 pilots.
December 1969 to June 27, 1970: Bush trains full-time to be an F-102 pilot at Ellington Air Force Base.
Febuary 1970 Bush attends Preint Pilot Training (T-33 ANG112501 5 weeks )
June 1970 his records are not clear his computer records show RGRAD NAV TNG but his Discharge shows F102 Intcp Pilot Training (F102 ANG1125D 16 weeks). His Military Biography shows: Professional Military Education: Basic Military Training, Undergraduate Pilot Training and nothing else.
Here is his total Service
July 1970 to April 16, 1972: Bush, as a certified fighter pilot, attends frequent drills and alerts at Ellington.
Computer records show last Physical as May 1971. Which also shows him as CR MEM ON FS (crew member on flight service) not PILOT.
During his fifth year as a guardsman, Bush's records show no sign he appeared for duty.
May 24, 1972: Bush, who has moved to Alabama to work on a US Senate race, gets permission to serve with a reserve unit in Alabama. But headquarters decided Bush must serve with a more active unit.
Sept. 5, 1972: Bush is granted permission to do his Guard duty at the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery. But Bush's record shows no evidence he did the duty, and the unit commander says he never showed up.
November 1972 to April 30, 1973: Bush returns to Houston, but apparently not to his Air Force unit.
May 2, 1973: The two lieutenant colonels in charge of Bush's unit in Houston cannot rate him for the prior 12 months, saying he has not been at the unit in that period.
May to July 1973: Bush, after special orders are issued for him to report for duty, logs 36 days of duty.
July 30, 1973: His last day in uniform, according to his records.
Oct. 1, 1973: A month after Bush starts at Harvard Business School, he is formally discharged from the Texas Air National Guard -- eight months before his six-year term expires.
Data drop from White House: pdfs from USAToday site
4-Performance Grades are missing
There is much in Bush's records to think about.
The main thing that gets me is; as a pilot he could have been anywhere in the US and been able to get a ride back to Houston for his weekend duty. Even non- pilots could do it by flying standby on MATS. But W didn't do it. He had to get a transfer to a unit in Alabama. Missing his physical took him to a non-flying status, but even that wouldn't have stopped him from riding a back seat in a T-33 going home for duty.
He missed all his physicals after May 1971, so he couldn't have kept his "pilot" rating, but that is the MOS on his discharge. What did he do as a non-pilot in the Guard? If he didn't miss the physicals, then they should be in his record. They aren't.
That is the crux of his duty in the Air Guard.
Libsmakegreatdoo rmats

Chicago, IL

#34 Jun 1, 2009
Hey Toady

It's so nice to seat back and just cut and paste. What about getting into the background of the Air Guard during that time period? Why not study and report how other officers were treated? Why would a LtCol care about a lowly Lt especially since there are a lot of them in that type of unit? Ask any Commanding Officer from a Battalion size unit if they remember any of their Lt's. I doubt that they would unless they worked directly for the LtCol. Now take the length of time since he served and when these questions were asked - Do you remember 30 yrs back who your boss was, who your coworkers were, whether or not they showed up for work. Additionally, the record keeping back in those days was poor. Papers of all shorts get lost in the mix. Even my own 201 file was incomplete - I had to give St. Louis additional records. So before you dig up stuff, do us all a favor and get ALL the information and facts.
Konnecticut Better Yet

Norwich, CT

#35 Jun 1, 2009
toadspad wrote:
You got to be kidding me that looser was in the Air Force get your facts in a row.
Do your homework before you put that size 13 in your mouth again
May 28, 1968: Bush enlists as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group, Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, and is selected to attend pilot training.
July 12, 1968: A three-member board of officers decides that Bush should get a direct commission as a second lieutenant after competing airman's basic training.
July 14 to Aug. 25, 1968: Bush attends six weeks of basic training at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas.
Sept. 4, 1968: Bush is commissioned a second lieutenant and takes an 8-week leave to work on a Senate campaign in Florida.
Nov. 25, 1968 to Nov. 28, 1969: Bush attends and graduates from flight school at Moody Air Force Base, Georgia.(UTP Course #P-V4A-A Moody AFB, Ga. 53 weeks November 1969)
January 1,1970 147th changes from doing Alerts to training F-102 pilots.
December 1969 to June 27, 1970: Bush trains full-time to be an F-102 pilot at Ellington Air Force Base.
Febuary 1970 Bush attends Preint Pilot Training (T-33 ANG112501 5 weeks )
June 1970 his records are not clear his computer records show RGRAD NAV TNG but his Discharge shows F102 Intcp Pilot Training (F102 ANG1125D 16 weeks). His Military Biography shows: Professional Military Education: Basic Military Training, Undergraduate Pilot Training and nothing else.
Here is his total Service
July 1970 to April 16, 1972: Bush, as a certified fighter pilot, attends frequent drills and alerts at Ellington.
Computer records show last Physical as May 1971. Which also shows him as CR MEM ON FS (crew member on flight service) not PILOT.
During his fifth year as a guardsman, Bush's records show no sign he appeared for duty.
May 24, 1972: Bush, who has moved to Alabama to work on a US Senate race, gets permission to serve with a reserve unit in Alabama. But headquarters decided Bush must serve with a more active unit.
Sept. 5, 1972: Bush is granted permission to do his Guard duty at the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery. But Bush's record shows no evidence he did the duty, and the unit commander says he never showed up.
November 1972 to April 30, 1973: Bush returns to Houston, but apparently not to his Air Force unit.
May 2, 1973: The two lieutenant colonels in charge of Bush's unit in Houston cannot rate him for the prior 12 months, saying he has not been at the unit in that period.
May to July 1973: Bush, after special orders are issued for him to report for duty, logs 36 days of duty.
July 30, 1973: His last day in uniform, according to his records.
Oct. 1, 1973: A month after Bush starts at Harvard Business School, he is formally discharged from the Texas Air National Guard -- eight months before his six-year term expires.
Data drop from White House: pdfs from USAToday site
4-Performance Grades are missing
There is much in Bush's records to think about.
The main thing that gets me is; as a pilot he could have been anywhere in the US and been able to get a ride back to Houston for his weekend duty. Even non- pilots could do it by flying standby on MATS. But W didn't do it. He had to get a transfer to a unit in Alabama. Missing his physical took him to a non-flying status, but even that wouldn't have stopped him from riding a back seat in a T-33 going home for duty.
He missed all his physicals after May 1971, so he couldn't have kept his "pilot" rating, but that is the MOS on his discharge. What did he do as a non-pilot in the Guard? If he didn't miss the physicals, then they should be in his record. They aren't.
That is the crux of his duty in the Air Guard.
I do have my facts in a row. He was in the TX Air Nat'l Guard, not the Air Force. Did you bother reading that cut and paste of GWB's entire career? Said so right in it. Is it clear now?
Libsmakegreatdoo rmats

Chicago, IL

#36 Jun 2, 2009
Get you facts right guys. When someone is in the Guard whether its Army or Air, they are also in the U.S. Army or the U.S. Air Force at the same time. The only difference is that when your on weekend duty or diseaster alert you fall under the state authority, when on Title 10 - Active Duty for Training, etc, you fall under the Feds.
Mr Giblets

India

#37 Jun 2, 2009
as usual certain people try to bring Bush into this. Why? he has nothing to do with it. Obama realised he could do some grandstanding at the D-Day anniversary, with President Sarkozy, about the 2nd World War and how his (white) relations were involved. Both these slippery presidents then tried to keep Queen Elizabeth , the only surviving WW2 head of state, and who was actually a member of the armed forces, out of it. After all, we Brits only had 2 beaches to fight at Normandy, and we all know how well the French did in WW2. I expect next we will have a Hollywood film starring Susan Sarandon about how the USA and the French and Obama's family won the war.
Libsmakegreatdoo rmats

Chicago, IL

#38 Jun 2, 2009
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
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..."It just eats away at you that the patriotic majority of the country came out in record numbers to landslide President Obama into the White House."
Once again you have distorted the facts. There are just over 212 million registered voters, of that only 131 million voted. That is 61.7% who voted. Out of that, only 52% voted or 69 million or 32.5% of all registered voters voted for Obama the Unqualified. That is not a landslide victory. It is only a small majority victory of total voted. If you want real landslides look at Johnson vs Goldwater, Nixon vs McGovern, and Reagan vs Mondale.
swen rettel

United States

#44 Jun 3, 2009
Konnecticut Better Yet wrote:
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I do have my facts in a row. He was in the TX Air Nat'l Guard, not the Air Force. Did you bother reading that cut and paste of GWB's entire career? Said so right in it. Is it clear now?
Read the comment Number 36. he is right yoyu are right also up to the point of not being in the airforce. at one time and i beleive still true. the advantage of being in the guard was you could not be pulled out individually. the reserve they can take you one at a time.the guard right now has to go thrue basic training just like the regular army. the guard has served in every war faithfully since it was instituted.
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