Who Wants Bill Holt to be the next SH...
mudd slinging

United States

#183 Jun 23, 2010
Even the commissioners are crooked. A little favor her and there goes along ways.Its all about who you know. You scratch my back I'll scratch yours.
sam

United States

#184 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
It is very readily apparent that tensions are high in RobCo. It is also very apparent (from speaking with other residents of this county) that the current direction of RCSO is the wrong way. Again, from experience, I say I am tired of hearing "We CAN'T do that for you." I've heard it on more than one occassion as well as others I've spoken with have heard the same thing. I WON'T name name Smiling Bob, I also WON'T hide behind a screen name. I am also NOT a former Metro employee seeking employment, nor have I been promised anything from Larry Cook. I BELIEVE him to be the right candidate for the job based on what I BELIEVE. After having looked into both candidates personally, Larry has my vote. No mud slinging, no name calling, no bull crap to throw out there. I have been witness to County deputies not only telling me they couldn't do something about a given situation, I have also had them tell me they couldn't do something about it because it was IN THE CITY and they don't "step on the cities toes." Again, no name calling, no mud slinging. Personal experience. Smiling Bob, you seem to be one of great knowledge, you seem to KNOW IT ALL but all I see you really attack on the part of Larry Cook is his being a supervisor of school crossing guards. I challenge you to seek more information because for one to be a Lieutenant with Metro, one has to be promoted not once but twice. You have to go thru a fair and ethical selection process, not the "good old boy promotion process." You also have to serve a given time as a supervisor in patrol or several given units before being promoted to the sublime rank of Lieutenant. Please spew those facts for us Bob, Sam. Tell us other places and people he supervised. Lets don't just narrow it down to school crossing guards. Please be dignified about it. Otherwise you come across as a disgruntled person WORKING FOR Bill Holt who is being given the words to say or maybe even Holt himself. Either way, my opinion is this, IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, THINGS CAN'T CONTINUE THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN. Oh, and the 2.5 million being given back to the county from the jail, one question, was that money not federal grant money and should that not have to be returned to the federal government? This is a question, not an accusation. Just wondering myself because I don't know and I'm not afraid to ask and before I cite anyting I will ask. Hope its the right answer because several other people have already stated where that money came from but I want fact.
I will not sling mud or name call. Tell me what divisions at metro Larry Cook supervised. Please just state the facts. I would like to know from beginning to end if that is not to much trouble. I am keeping an open mind and trying to find the truth. It is obvious Bill Holt was promoted several times at the TBI after all he was the Deputy Director.
kirby

United States

#185 Jun 23, 2010
thewreck wrote:
What about Jennifer WIX?? RCSO new more about what happened to her then they want to say. That's why one Detective left town years back because he was getting pressured not to say as much as he knew. Why have they solve that case. Everyone knows her boyfriend and his father was the guilty party.
Yes, yes, lets talk about Jennifer and Adrianne. Some accusation was made from one of the devout Holt supporters that Larry has said he was going to solve that case. That would be cool!!! Heck, any effort put into tring to resolve this case would be superb. I don't care who does it. But it is very readily apparent that the current administration is either tired of fooling with it or just don't know what to do. From what I understand, the case file on this particular case is no more than about 3 or 4 pieces of paper in a file folder. If there is more, then they are lying to personnel who have asked to view it or hiding something. I understand that in an open case you don't really want to share everything but when it comes to someone helping with an investigation, you probably should share all you have. What is it that the husband and father have that keeps them from being investigated further? Were search warrants executed and evidence searched for (not just the body or bodies but evidence.) We all know now that without a body and without a weapon, someone CAN BE CONVICTED. Perry March is the perfect example but this, again is another example of "We can't do that for you." Mr. Cook, thank you for at least offering to try to solve this stagnant case. Thank you for putting forth the effort to solve one of this counties unsolved MURDERS. Regardless of the outcome of the investigation that I hope you get to do, I hope at least someone tries to solve this. The families of these young girls DESERVE answers. They have put their own time and effort into this case when the LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES THEM EITHER WON'T OR THEY JUST PLAIN DON'T. Larry Cook for Sheriff, we deserve better.
kirby

United States

#186 Jun 23, 2010
sam wrote:
<quoted text>
I will not sling mud or name call. Tell me what divisions at metro Larry Cook supervised. Please just state the facts. I would like to know from beginning to end if that is not to much trouble. I am keeping an open mind and trying to find the truth. It is obvious Bill Holt was promoted several times at the TBI after all he was the Deputy Director.
You guys seem to know it all, you tell me. Do your research as I have. Publicly state why Holt left (retired or otherwise) the TBI. Why would he leave the 2nd highest law enforcement post in the state?
kirby

United States

#187 Jun 23, 2010
Lady CALLS RCSO BECAUSE HER HUSBAND IS MISSING, RCSO AND ITS EMPLOYERS TELL THE WOMAN "HE'S A GROWN MAN, HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO." THEY IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE MAN LEFT VERY IMPORTANT THINGS AT HOME INCLUDING "LIFE SUSTAINING MEDICATION." SEVERAL DAYS LATER WOMAN CALLS BACK AND ASKS FOR THEM TO COME OUT AGAIN BECAUSE THE HUSBAND STILL HASN'T RETURNED. RCSO COMES OUT AND INTERROGATES THE LADY LIKE SHE IS A HOMICIDE SUSPECT AND THIS IS SIMPLY A DOMESTIC DISTURBANCE. RCSO SAYS THAT THEY HAVE MADE A REPORT AT SOME TIME BUT THE HUSBAND IS NEVER ENTERED INTO NCIC...WAS THE REPORT MADE? 14 DAYS AFTER THE INITIAL REPORT, AFTER THE LADY CALLS AND THREATENS MEDIA ATTENTION, RCSO COMES AND SEARCHES AND FINDS THE HUSBAND HAS COMMITTED SUICIDE AND THEY DID NOTHING FOR 14 DAYS. HE EASILY COULD HAVE BEEN ALIVE UPON THE INITIAL REPORT OR CALL. IS THIS THE WAY WE WANT TO HAVE OUR SHERIFF DEPT. RUN. IS THIS THE PRODUCT OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION? "WE AIN'T GONNA DO THAT FOR YA'"
Think about

United States

#188 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
It is very readily apparent that tensions are high in RobCo. It is also very apparent (from speaking with other residents of this county) that the current direction of RCSO is the wrong way. Again, from experience, I say I am tired of hearing "We CAN'T do that for you." I've heard it on more than one occassion as well as others I've spoken with have heard the same thing. I WON'T name name Smiling Bob, I also WON'T hide behind a screen name. I am also NOT a former Metro employee seeking employment, nor have I been promised anything from Larry Cook. I BELIEVE him to be the right candidate for the job based on what I BELIEVE. After having looked into both candidates personally, Larry has my vote. No mud slinging, no name calling, no bull crap to throw out there. I have been witness to County deputies not only telling me they couldn't do something about a given situation, I have also had them tell me they couldn't do something about it because it was IN THE CITY and they don't "step on the cities toes." Again, no name calling, no mud slinging. Personal experience. Smiling Bob, you seem to be one of great knowledge, you seem to KNOW IT ALL but all I see you really attack on the part of Larry Cook is his being a supervisor of school crossing guards. I challenge you to seek more information because for one to be a Lieutenant with Metro, one has to be promoted not once but twice. You have to go thru a fair and ethical selection process, not the "good old boy promotion process." You also have to serve a given time as a supervisor in patrol or several given units before being promoted to the sublime rank of Lieutenant. Please spew those facts for us Bob, Sam. Tell us other places and people he supervised. Lets don't just narrow it down to school crossing guards. Please be dignified about it. Otherwise you come across as a disgruntled person WORKING FOR Bill Holt who is being given the words to say or maybe even Holt himself. Either way, my opinion is this, IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, THINGS CAN'T CONTINUE THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN. Oh, and the 2.5 million being given back to the county from the jail, one question, was that money not federal grant money and should that not have to be returned to the federal government? This is a question, not an accusation. Just wondering myself because I don't know and I'm not afraid to ask and before I cite anyting I will ask. Hope its the right answer because several other people have already stated where that money came from but I want fact.
You are wrong about that 2.5 million being federal money call the finance department and they will tell you. Regaurdless of who the sheriff the returning of 2.5 million dollars saved the taxpayers a .20 cent tax increase this year. One question why is it that everyone that is on this forum supporting Cook is so negative when something good happens at the Sheriff's Office. One other question do you live in this county, if so you should be happy. Earlier there was someone on here complaining about the deputy getting all that cocaine and weapons off the street. You know i'm noting going to say everything is perfect because it's not only GOD is, but don't try and crusify the deputies no matter who they are kin too they are only doing their job. While i'm on that subject family is a big deal in Law Enforcement. Let me ask you one final question. Say you where a deputy and your seven year old son said daddy I want to be a cop like you. What do you tell him. Sorry son you can't because there are people in the world like the people in this forum that said it's not right. You must move out of the county son if you want to be a cop. You know I have read the post on this forum about family, but no one has yet provided proof or any facts that any family member is NOT qualified or doing their job they were hired to do.
Rebecca

Mount Pleasant, TX

#189 Jun 23, 2010
Go Kirby!!! That is all true. I know the family personally.
kirby

United States

#190 Jun 23, 2010
I haven't slammed any deputy personally at all. I have attacked the fact that they NORMALLY don't police inside the city, even telling me once that they couldn't help me when my neighbors were shooting automatic weapons inside the city and I live on the other side of the street in the county. Dispatch asked me how I knew the were automatic weapons...duh...then the deputy said he COULDN'T DO ANYTHING because it was inside the city??? which is also IN THE COUNTY so I too would probably ask why they advertise the drug bust doing something they normally don't do.... I have been in Robertson County for 20 years. I am a transplant from Sumner County, it is no secret who I am. I am not hiding behind a silly screen name. I am a city cop in Nashville but am a brother in law nonetheless and to have a deputy say he CAN'T ENFORCE THE LAW THAT HE IS SWORN TO UPHOLD and to have 2 deputies say they can't do anything about another situation as well as a Sgt. on the force say "We ain't gonna do that" when requested to enforce a law that they are sworn to uphold (I even said I'd prosecute) is a shame, disgrace and insulting to the people who pay what taxes we do pay for the service we are not getting. HE DENIED ME MY RIGHT AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY TO SIGN TO PROSECUTE ON A LAW THAT HAD BEEN VIOLATED. Then he wanted my supervisors name, claiming that I was trying to enforce the law up here, to which I politely responded that If that was the case, I would have already written them up and let them go....TIME FOR CHANGE.
kirby

United States

#191 Jun 23, 2010
In finishing above, this is a leadership problem. When not only the deputies say that but also the supervision of the agency say that...that is a leadership problem. They apparently have been told by someone not to enforce inside the cities. Ron Serpas was the chief of New Orleans Police, the head of the State Police in Washington State as well as the Chief of Police in Nashville but that don't make him a good person or a good leader or a good Chief. Just because Bill Holt was the head of the TBI don't make him a good anything. He left for some reason. That was a gravy job that I'm sure paid quite well (probably better than a Sheriff of RobCo.) Larry Cook is my choice based on all I know and have seen. I've never heard anyone on Metro (14 years service) call him lying Larry.
kirby

United States

#192 Jun 23, 2010
Who remembers the Chief of Police in Cross Plains that looked REAL GOOD on paper but that is all it was. He was some kinda Chief in California and supposedly had all kinds of certifications and qualifications only later found to be all false. Just because the paper says it, don't make it true always. Just because someone was the leader of some major organization don't make them a good leader. OH and the Chief of White House back several years ago that looked good on paper but was an idiot...same situation. He was a Ranger in the Army so he said. He left town owing lots of people money and it was later found out he was a cook for a Ranger unit but he was no Ranger.
ann

United States

#193 Jun 23, 2010
Gary wrote:
<quoted text> Jonathan Hayes is a very up front, hard working dedicated officer. I wish there were more like him. I have know this young man for years, and I think he needs to be left out of this drama. He is just doing his job, and I have NEVER heard or thought he felt he was above the law.
He is a sneak ad a liar,, I believe if you do some research, he has been in trouble at work for not telling the truth on some reports,,, check it out.....
ann

United States

#194 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
In finishing above, this is a leadership problem. When not only the deputies say that but also the supervision of the agency say that...that is a leadership problem. They apparently have been told by someone not to enforce inside the cities. Ron Serpas was the chief of New Orleans Police, the head of the State Police in Washington State as well as the Chief of Police in Nashville but that don't make him a good person or a good leader or a good Chief. Just because Bill Holt was the head of the TBI don't make him a good anything. He left for some reason. That was a gravy job that I'm sure paid quite well (probably better than a Sheriff of RobCo.) Larry Cook is my choice based on all I know and have seen. I've never heard anyone on Metro (14 years service) call him lying Larry.
Kirby,, you are right on the money with this stuff,, Holt needs to go ,,Larry is in 2010!!!!!!
sam

Oak Grove, KY

#195 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
In finishing above, this is a leadership problem. When not only the deputies say that but also the supervision of the agency say that...that is a leadership problem. They apparently have been told by someone not to enforce inside the cities. Ron Serpas was the chief of New Orleans Police, the head of the State Police in Washington State as well as the Chief of Police in Nashville but that don't make him a good person or a good leader or a good Chief. Just because Bill Holt was the head of the TBI don't make him a good anything. He left for some reason. That was a gravy job that I'm sure paid quite well (probably better than a Sheriff of RobCo.) Larry Cook is my choice based on all I know and have seen. I've never heard anyone on Metro (14 years service) call him lying Larry.
You say Bill Holt left for a reason why did Larry Cook leave his job we all know at the end of his career he had a gravy job supervising crossing gaurds. Not making fun just stating a fact. And if he left to retire then why is he running for sheriff why not stay retired.
kirby

United States

#196 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, yes, lets talk about Jennifer and Adrianne. Some accusation was made from one of the devout Holt supporters that Larry has said he was going to solve that case. That would be cool!!! Heck, any effort put into tring to resolve this case would be superb. I don't care who does it. But it is very readily apparent that the current administration is either tired of fooling with it or just don't know what to do. From what I understand, the case file on this particular case is no more than about 3 or 4 pieces of paper in a file folder. If there is more, then they are lying to personnel who have asked to view it or hiding something. I understand that in an open case you don't really want to share everything but when it comes to someone helping with an investigation, you probably should share all you have. What is it that the husband and father have that keeps them from being investigated further? Were search warrants executed and evidence searched for (not just the body or bodies but evidence.) We all know now that without a body and without a weapon, someone CAN BE CONVICTED. Perry March is the perfect example but this, again is another example of "We can't do that for you." Mr. Cook, thank you for at least offering to try to solve this stagnant case. Thank you for putting forth the effort to solve one of this counties unsolved MURDERS. Regardless of the outcome of the investigation that I hope you get to do, I hope at least someone tries to solve this. The families of these young girls DESERVE answers. They have put their own time and effort into this case when the LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES THEM EITHER WON'T OR THEY JUST PLAIN DON'T. Larry Cook for Sheriff, we deserve better.
Okay, kinda arrogant to reply to my own post. I just wanted to say that RCSO is looking for Adrianne and Jennifer about as hard as OJ is looking for Nicole Simpson's murderer.
kirby

United States

#197 Jun 23, 2010
sam wrote:
<quoted text>
You say Bill Holt left for a reason why did Larry Cook leave his job we all know at the end of his career he had a gravy job supervising crossing gaurds. Not making fun just stating a fact. And if he left to retire then why is he running for sheriff why not stay retired.
Larry had his time in and wanted to retire. Now he sees a PROBLEM and wants to make a difference.
sam

Oak Grove, KY

#198 Jun 23, 2010
kirby wrote:
<quoted text>
Larry had his time in and wanted to retire. Now he sees a PROBLEM and wants to make a difference.
Why is it that as soon as he retired he came to the SHeriff's Office in 1998 asking Ted Emery to hire him. Don't know, but that does not sound like a man that was ready to retire. Are you sure there is not anything else we should know about his retirement. Was he forced to retire.
Ron

Clarksville, TN

#199 Jun 23, 2010
Well, Sam, what did Holt do? Came to Ted Emery for a job when he left the TBI. He also talked about our dear friend Ted Emery behind his back like he was a DOG! THAT'S A FINE, CHRISTIAN MAN. especially when Ted was good enough to give him a job. Some things never change, he is still talking about people behind their backs, and sucking up to them to their faces!
sam

Dillon, SC

#200 Jun 23, 2010
Ron wrote:
Well, Sam, what did Holt do? Came to Ted Emery for a job when he left the TBI. He also talked about our dear friend Ted Emery behind his back like he was a DOG! THAT'S A FINE, CHRISTIAN MAN. especially when Ted was good enough to give him a job. Some things never change, he is still talking about people behind their backs, and sucking up to them to their faces!
No Ted called Bill and offered him a job when Bill retired.
sam

Dillon, SC

#201 Jun 23, 2010
How come no one will answer my question about Larry Cook. Question is what divisions at Metro did Larry supervise starting at the beginning of his career to the end. I now he supervised the crossing gaurds at the end, but what else. A truthful answer please.
Smiling Bob

Denton, TX

#202 Jun 23, 2010
But Kirby, you are hiding behind a screenname. You told one too many people who you were, and word has gotten around, STAN!!! You did work at Metro. I will let you know that if the rumor that you are Stan is true, I heard of your ailment and will keep you in my prayers. Yeah, you have to be promoted to a corporal to a sergeant, up till a lieutenant. Maybe Larry wasn't doing his job at all, and when the lieutenant of crossing guards opened, that was a way to get him out. They may have made that position up for him. You're just all about the "We can't do that," aren't you? I'm just curious as to the calls that the deputies have answered and told you or whoever that they couldn't do it. Deputies don't handle civil matters, they enforce criminal laws. I would love for you to tell me what other divisions Larry supervised. He'll never tell anyone. Everytime it's the "I supervised over 200 employees at Metro," but he never specifys what the position titles are. Maybe you should tell him he needs to be more specific, just so there isn't any confusion. I like your sublte way of insulting my intelligence by saying I need to be given words to say. Why is it at every ask and answer session, Larry's people always ask the same questions, when they've already heard the answer? Seems like he has to be given the words as well. Anything outside of juveniles, which he knows nothing about, immigration, which evidentally he wants to ignore federal laws, and fiscal responsibility, he never says anything. I honestly just laugh at the way people say it's the "good old boy system." Unless you were denied a promotion at the sheriff's office because of that system, or if you work there and have seen it, you don't know what you're talking about.
The 2.5 million was not government grant money. No it is not owed back to the federal government.

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