Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#8918 Sep 15, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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You have short memory. I stated here that I don't really have a religion. I do believe in God and Jesus, but with the exception of weddings and funerals, I haven't attended a church in decades.
Remember too that there is no clause "Church and State" in the Constitution. That was invented later by activist judges. The founders didn't want a country run by any particular religion such as what goes on in the middle-east. But they didn't want religion excluded from all society either. That's what's in the Constitution.
Uhhh, hey smart boy. Believeing in Jesus is called religion. You are right that it's sickening to see people trying to control a government through one religion. You know, like what the Tea Party is trying to do. Don't worry. REAL Americans see right through that garbage, no matter how much money the Koch brothers throw at it. This will become clear to you when we elect Obama again.
Rakk

Columbus, OH

#8919 Sep 15, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>And for you...Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you tonight's guest star on to Catch a Predator...Rakk!

Anyway, let's talk about rational things like talking snakes and water walking Jewish zombies. Next, let's imagine a country where Muslims are wanting to force kids to pray in school. To have the Muslim creation story taught in science class. To cry if Allah isn't mentioned in some political speech. To protest Christian churches being built. Sound familiar? Also, shut your douchebag mouth. Nobody was talking to you.
Lol that was pretty good. Good for you! However you just described the middle east! where this does happen and people are killed for their beliefs wether they are atheist or not. Maybe you should read more before you barf out ignorant statements like that!
Rakk

Columbus, OH

#8920 Sep 15, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>No, the major conflict is rightwing Christian conservatives trying to force this country into Dominionism. The last time you guys voted with your Bibles with GW, Christianity dropped by 10%. By all means...keep it up. After hearing that very popular friar on television go on about how those children who were molested, were "asking for it", I think you guys need to worry about your own asses and not some secret commie Muslim scheme to take the word "God" off of dirty money. Just a kookie little kiddie groping oil cult for Jesus. A toddler in one hand and a Bible wrapped in an American flag in the other.
Here is some sarcasm!!! You are soo right Christians and atheist are littering the streets in droves demanding America burns and all infidels be killed. Yup it definitely is a big secret!!! Are you retarded?
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#8921 Sep 15, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhhh, hey smart boy. Believeing in Jesus is called religion. You are right that it's sickening to see people trying to control a government through one religion. You know, like what the Tea Party is trying to do. Don't worry. REAL Americans see right through that garbage, no matter how much money the Koch brothers throw at it. This will become clear to you when we elect Obama again.
And what are you going to say when Romney is elected? Surrender?

There is no religion called Jesus. There are various groups of religions that follow his teachings, but Jesus himself is not a religion. A religion is an organization that has a set of beliefs, rules, regulations and rituals.

The TP nor anybody for that matter is trying to orchestrate a religion run government. Believe it or not, we had much more religion involved in government 50 years ago than we could ever have in the future. Years ago, most stores were closed on Sunday. Nobody sold alcohol either. It was against the law in most places. When somebody testified in court, they used to have to hold their hand on the Holy Bible and swear to God they were going to tell the truth. Congress started each session with prayer. To be honest, I think they still do. I remember as a child the Cleveland police shutting down a main street so the church could perform Stations of the Cross in the middle of the street.

Funny thing back then is that there were few worries about murder, rape or drug addicts. Nobody feared dropping their kids off at school or having them go through a metal detector as they entered.

I know you have this hangup about religion, but there was a lot of positives in a religious society that was lost as liberals stripped it away. It's a shame you're too young to remember such a time or you might not be so paranoid of religion today.
Free Market Capitalist

Rocky Ridge, OH

#8922 Sep 15, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhhh, hey smart boy. Believeing in Jesus is called religion. You are right that it's sickening to see people trying to control a government through one religion. You know, like what the Tea Party is trying to do. Don't worry. REAL Americans see right through that garbage, no matter how much money the Koch brothers throw at it. This will become clear to you when we elect Obama again.
Believing in Jesus is not a religion. Religion is a man-made concept. Christ was God in human form to save sorry asses like yourself from burning for eternity in hell!

Sorry, but you have the Tea Party wrong. The Tea Party wants a fiscally responsible government that follows the Constitution. I find it hard to believe that we have Americans that are against that!

If Obama gets another term, you can kiss this country good bye!
By the time he finishes his first term, he will have added 6 trillion to our debt. Another term and you can tack on at least another 6 trillion. This alone will destroy us, never mind all the other insane policies. If you can't understand this, you are stupid and an abject fool. It is obvious you don't understand this...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#8923 Sep 15, 2012
Mitt Romney’s Fully Documented Liberal Left-Wing Social and Fiscal Record

• Unilaterally, illegally & unconstitutionally instituted same-sex “marriage” falsely claiming the “court ordered him to.”

• Signed the forerunner to Obamacare (Romneycare) into law which includes $50 tax-subsidized elective surgical abortions including late-term abortions into law (3 years AFTER his fake “pro-life conversion.”)

• Boosted funding for homosexual “education” starting in kindergarten.

• Opposes a ban on homosexual scoutmasters.

• Promised the homosexual Republican “Log Cabin Republicans” he wouldn’t oppose “gay marriage” in return for their endorsement.

• Instituted a quasi-socialist healthcare plan endorsed by Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and Planned Parenthood that destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy.

• Forced Catholic Charities, the nation’s #1 adoption and foster care service to place children with same sex couples even though he was under no legal obligation to do so as even former Governor Michael Dukakis has acknowledged.

• Increased taxes and fees by close to a billion dollars which destroyed the Massachusetts’ economy and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts.

• Voted # 8 RINO by Human Events.

• Passed over Republican lawyers for three quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he faced and nominated 2 open homosexuals.

• Criticized Joint Chief’s of Staff, Peter Pace for saying that homosexual acts were “immoral.”

• Supports passage at the state level of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which would force churches and other religious organizations to hire homosexuals and transvestites or face criminal fines and prosecution.

• Romney supported McCain-Feingold “campaign finance reform”, McCain-Kennedy “comprehensive immigration reform”(i.e. amnesty), and parts of the McCain-Lieberman “carbon cap and trade” bill and opposed the Bush Tax Cuts.

http://stevedeace.com/news/national-politics/...
Free Market Capitalist

Rocky Ridge, OH

#8924 Sep 15, 2012
What we need is a true conservative to lead this country. While Romney is definitely not a true conservative, he is a much better alternative to Obama. At least with Romney we have a chance.
Rakk

Columbus, OH

#8925 Sep 15, 2012
Free Market Capitalist wrote:
What we need is a true conservative to lead this country. While Romney is definitely not a true conservative, he is a much better alternative to Obama. At least with Romney we have a chance.
Agreed
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#8926 Sep 15, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You have short memory. I stated here that I don't really have a religion. I do believe in God and Jesus, but with the exception of weddings and funerals, I haven't attended a church in decades.
Remember too that there is no clause "Church and State" in the Constitution. That was invented later by activist judges. The founders didn't want a country run by any particular religion such as what goes on in the middle-east. But they didn't want religion excluded from all society either. That's what's in the Constitution.
Those words aren't in the Constitution either.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#8927 Sep 15, 2012
Free Market Capitalist wrote:
What we need is a true conservative to lead this country. While Romney is definitely not a true conservative, he is a much better alternative to Obama. At least with Romney we have a chance.
How will Romney's plan to cut taxes and increase defense spending help reduce either the debt or the deficit?

Henry Jefferson

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#8928 Sep 15, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Those words aren't in the Constitution either.
They are if you can read:

"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

That doesn't just apply to a church building or a private home.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#8929 Sep 15, 2012
Henry Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>They are if you can read:
"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
That doesn't just apply to a church building or a private home.
Now, now. XXX says you aren't allowed to interpret what those words mean. You can only go by what the actual words are. That clause clearly only prohibits the government from charging a fee to go to church. "Free" exercise.

Henry Jefferson

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#8930 Sep 15, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Now, now. XXX says you aren't allowed to interpret what those words mean. You can only go by what the actual words are. That clause clearly only prohibits the government from charging a fee to go to church. "Free" exercise.
That's not even remotely funny.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#8931 Sep 15, 2012
Henry Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>That's not even remotely funny.
It wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to demonstrate the absurdity of XXX's assertion that the Constitution is to be read literally without interpretation.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#8932 Sep 15, 2012
Free Market Capitalist wrote:
What we need is a true conservative to lead this country. While Romney is definitely not a true conservative, he is a much better alternative to Obama. At least with Romney we have a chance.
Congress is the The Problem because of the Employment Act of 1946 An act of legislation enacted by the United States Congress that charged the Federal Government with the responsibility of maintaining a high employment level of labor and price stability. These two goals are in direct conflict with each other, because as full employment is achieved consistently over time, demand-pull inflation will result.

Employment Act of 1946

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Act_o...

and in 1978 the Employment Act of 1946 was amended by the Humphrey–Hawkins Full Employment Act which Overall, the Act sought to formalize (and to expand Congress's role in) the economic policy process, as governed by the Federal Reserve and the President.

Humphrey–Hawkins Full Employment Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Employment_...
StarryStarry

Canton, OH

#8933 Sep 15, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And what are you going to say when Romney is elected? Surrender?
There is no religion called Jesus. There are various groups of religions that follow his teachings, but Jesus himself is not a religion. A religion is an organization that has a set of beliefs, rules, regulations and rituals.
The TP nor anybody for that matter is trying to orchestrate a religion run government. Believe it or not, we had much more religion involved in government 50 years ago than we could ever have in the future. Years ago, most stores were closed on Sunday. Nobody sold alcohol either. It was against the law in most places. When somebody testified in court, they used to have to hold their hand on the Holy Bible and swear to God they were going to tell the truth. Congress started each session with prayer. To be honest, I think they still do. I remember as a child the Cleveland police shutting down a main street so the church could perform Stations of the Cross in the middle of the street.
Funny thing back then is that there were few worries about murder, rape or drug addicts. Nobody feared dropping their kids off at school or having them go through a metal detector as they entered.
I know you have this hangup about religion, but there was a lot of positives in a religious society that was lost as liberals stripped it away. It's a shame you're too young to remember such a time or you might not be so paranoid of religion today.
I remember, as you do, when main roads were shut down in Cleveland so that stations of the cross could be performed. I also remember when Catholics were not allowed to enter a Protestant church because it was a sin. My very Catholic mother in law would not attend my children's Christenings, because they were not baptized Catholic. Some 20 years later, still a devout Catholic, she attended the Baptisms of her great grandchildren. Much has changed, some good, some bad. It's all subjective. I was a very pro choice Democrat, until I had grandchildren. When I held my first grandson in my arms, my heart and my brain turned over and around to where my comfort level is to this day. BTW, it's always a pleasure to read your posts.

Henry Jefferson

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#8934 Sep 15, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to demonstrate the absurdity of XXX's assertion that the Constitution is to be read literally without interpretation.
You're arguing from a position of false equivalency.
I seriously doubt you're a lawyer, but if you are, you could only survive as a bottom feeding domestic/DUI/personal injury shyster. You're too stupid to practice law that's based on the Constitution.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#8935 Sep 15, 2012
Conservatives Who Back Romney Ignore Their Own Principals

http://www.humanevents.com/2011/10/30/conserv...
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#8936 Sep 15, 2012
Henry Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>You're arguing from a position of false equivalency.
I seriously doubt you're a lawyer, but if you are, you could only survive as a bottom feeding domestic/DUI/personal injury shyster. You're too stupid to practice law that's based on the Constitution.
Jesus Christ, you are stupid. When someone's theory leads to absurd results, it often helps to demonstrate those absurd results in order to show the absurdity of the theory. Of course I don't believe that the Free Exercise clause means "not charging." But what you seem to have missed in all of this, is that XXX (who I was responding to originally) believes that it is improper to interpret the words in the Constitution beyond their "plain meaning." I was demonstrating the absurdity of that theory. Get it?
StarryStarry

Canton, OH

#8937 Sep 15, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>

I've never been married my entire life. Any serious relationship I had was living together. When it was over, there were no lawyers. She took what she moved in with and I kept what I had when she moved in. Any joint property that was to be divided was negotiated between us. I didn't miss a thing by not being married, and two people of the same sex are not either.
I certainly respect your decision[s] not to have married, but, if you are open to it, I would suggest that you see the movie "Hope Springs."

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