Why would anyone want to live in Springfield, Ohio

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Ed Green

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I was born and raised in Springfield, Ohio and left when I joined the Navy in 1980. When I come back to vist my family I can't believe how depressing Ohio has become. The economy is terrible and jobs are scarce. After living in the south and near the coast since I left Ohio I can't believe why anyone would live there?
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Jul 11, 2007
 
You are mean
Shawn

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Jul 18, 2007
 
I dont know why it saya im from dayton? True blue Swingfielder...OH GOD
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Aug 29, 2007
 
Ed Green wrote:
I was born and raised in Springfield, Ohio and left when I joined the Navy in 1980. When I come back to vist my family I can't believe how depressing Ohio has become. The economy is terrible and jobs are scarce. After living in the south and near the coast since I left Ohio I can't believe why anyone would live there?
i know, even huntington, West Virginia with the growth of marshall University and a major development in its downtown (Pullman Square) is a lot more vibrant than Springfield. I think that for several decades many of the northern cities really had to work that hard to improve their communities. in dayton, for instance, they could enact one of the toughest regulatory environments in the country for new businesses and GM (over ninety thousand GM employees in dayton at one time), NCR, and associated industries just kept expanding. After those industries left, Daytonians retained a sense of superiority for the longest time. Only in the mid to late nineties did they get serious about rolling up their sleeves and competing. The current mayor, however, has largely represented a throwback to the old wy of thinking. In Springfield the leadrs do try, and have seen a lot of progress lately, but they have a very steep hyill to climb.
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Sep 1, 2007
 
NO ONE ASKED YOU TO COME BACK. NO IT,S NOT PERFECT BUT IT,S OUR HOME. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT DO NOT RETURN
Ed Green

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Sep 14, 2007
 
Did you go to North High School (class of 1980)?
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i know, even huntington, West Virginia with the growth of marshall University and a major development in its downtown (Pullman Square) is a lot more vibrant than Springfield. I think that for several decades many of the northern cities really had to work that hard to improve their communities. in dayton, for instance, they could enact one of the toughest regulatory environments in the country for new businesses and GM (over ninety thousand GM employees in dayton at one time), NCR, and associated industries just kept expanding. After those industries left, Daytonians retained a sense of superiority for the longest time. Only in the mid to late nineties did they get serious about rolling up their sleeves and competing. The current mayor, however, has largely represented a throwback to the old wy of thinking. In Springfield the leadrs do try, and have seen a lot of progress lately, but they have a very steep hyill to climb.
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Sep 14, 2007
 
Don't get so upset, I was just stating the truth! Have you ever been any place but springfield?
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NO ONE ASKED YOU TO COME BACK. NO IT,S NOT PERFECT BUT IT,S OUR HOME. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT DO NOT RETURN
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Sep 14, 2007
 
Looking for Graduates from North High Class of 1980! Please respond.
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I chose Springfield after considering 4 other places here in Ohio. I checked out the neighborhood I was considering, the library, the arts community, college, etc.

I came from Phoenix where you don't look at other cars or you may get shot. You accidentally bump into someone in a store and if looks could kill you'd be dead. People there won't let you into traffic and lapse into road rage if you try to "cut them off" making a safe lane change. You get the idea...and anywhere major (like the stadium, university, etc.) is a 60 minute drive so take your lunch if you want to take the kids shopping at a decent place.

People are nicer here. I grew up in Ohio. You have seasons, and trees. The drivers are more considerate (believe it or not!) and there are no traffic jams to speak of (comparatively speaking). You have a wonderful library, art museum, plenty of shopping variety here or close by. When I arrived at my house on moving day, the neighbors were waiting for me and offered me a beer. In Phoenix, everyone hides behind brick walls and nobody knows each other--and doesn't want to! Parents seem to supervise their kids--in Phoenix you see small children playing in the streets with no adult in sight.

Those a few of the reasons I chose Springfield. I love it here. I don't live in a rich neighborhood, mine is lower-middle-class if you're wondering. Sure, this town has problems but everyplace people congregate does. If presented with a choice, I would choose Springfield again!
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RSS wrote:
I chose Springfield after considering 4 other places here in Ohio. I checked out the neighborhood I was considering, the library, the arts community, college, etc.
I came from Phoenix where you don't look at other cars or you may get shot. You accidentally bump into someone in a store and if looks could kill you'd be dead. People there won't let you into traffic and lapse into road rage if you try to "cut them off" making a safe lane change. You get the idea...and anywhere major (like the stadium, university, etc.) is a 60 minute drive so take your lunch if you want to take the kids shopping at a decent place.
People are nicer here. I grew up in Ohio. You have seasons, and trees. The drivers are more considerate (believe it or not!) and there are no traffic jams to speak of (comparatively speaking). You have a wonderful library, art museum, plenty of shopping variety here or close by. When I arrived at my house on moving day, the neighbors were waiting for me and offered me a beer. In Phoenix, everyone hides behind brick walls and nobody knows each other--and doesn't want to! Parents seem to supervise their kids--in Phoenix you see small children playing in the streets with no adult in sight.
Those a few of the reasons I chose Springfield. I love it here. I don't live in a rich neighborhood, mine is lower-middle-class if you're wondering. Sure, this town has problems but everyplace people congregate does. If presented with a choice, I would choose Springfield again!
The illegals are swarming into Springfield thanks to DOLE and the raids in Hamilton last month. It won't take long until your neighborhood will be full of them, just like in Phoenix, Houston, San Diego, El Paso, etc.

Go down to Selma Road park some evening and watch the MS-13 PACK (gang is too nice of a word for them) playing basketball. The illegal crime wave is here and ready to plunder.
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The illegals are swarming into Springfield thanks to DOLE and the raids in Hamilton last month. It won't take long until your neighborhood will be full of them, just like in Phoenix, Houston, San Diego, El Paso, etc.
Go down to Selma Road park some evening and watch the MS-13 PACK (gang is too nice of a word for them) playing basketball. The illegal crime wave is here and ready to plunder.
Can't be worse than Phoenix, where you can't even find signs in English in some neighborhoods. FWIW, some of my neighbors are spanish-speakers--I have no idea where they're from, but they're very nice and if they see me having difficulty with something they're right there to help. Can't understand much of what they say but their hearts are in the right place. I know that's not your point, but there are a lot of good people here. Live a year in Phoenix (I was stuck there for 28) and you'll be so happy to be here you'll wonder why you complained. Yes, I know there are gangs and that's everywhere. But if we're conscientious and take an active hand in our community we may be able to forestall a lot of our fears from becoming reality and change the direction things are headed now.

I was just trying to point out that often people don't know how good they have it till they try the "greener grass" elsewhere.:-)
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It's not worse than Phoenix, YET.

How do you know that your neighbors "hearts are in the right place" and what does that have to do with whether they are here illegally or not?

Regardless of how "nice" they seem to be, they are VERY LIKELY a part of the illegal problem facing not only our country, our town, but our children's future, as well.

Your neighbors will likely bring down your property values once their huge extended family sneaks across the border and comes to live with them.

How do you think that Phoenix became the way it is now? Because of people looking the other way while the "nice" illegals paved the way for the rest of them. Now look at the problems that AMERICANS have to solve because of them.

If you don't take your head out of the sand, in a very short time, the illegals will take it out FOR YOU.
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AMERICAN wrote:
It's not worse than Phoenix, YET.
How do you know that your neighbors "hearts are in the right place" and what does that have to do with whether they are here illegally or not?
Regardless of how "nice" they seem to be, they are VERY LIKELY a part of the illegal problem facing not only our country, our town, but our children's future, as well.
Your neighbors will likely bring down your property values once their huge extended family sneaks across the border and comes to live with them.
How do you think that Phoenix became the way it is now? Because of people looking the other way while the "nice" illegals paved the way for the rest of them. Now look at the problems that AMERICANS have to solve because of them.
If you don't take your head out of the sand, in a very short time, the illegals will take it out FOR YOU.
Oh, I know what you mean! Phoenix was nearly overrun with illegals and nobody did anything about securing the borders except the Minutemen, who were derided as "vigilantes". I totally concede your point that we have to do something--a good start would be demanding action from our state reps and voting them out if we don't get it. However, I felt a need to illustrate that illegals aren't evil parasites--not that you implied as much but I guess I'm just used to the extreme predjudice out west where a legal immigrant would be subjected to scorn and outright discrimination without anyone knowing his legal status.

I didn't look up what Clark County voting statistics are like but I hope a lot of you go to the polls and make your voices heard. Complacency is the greatest danger to our country, imo.
Crash

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Feb 21, 2008
 
Springfield is a vital town and rebounding. Dont be a jerk Eddy. My family is born and raised in Springfield and we prefer it over several other places we lived, so dont be an idiot and judgemental

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Feb 23, 2008
 
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Springfield is a vital town and rebounding. Dont be a jerk Eddy. My family is born and raised in Springfield and we prefer it over several other places we lived, so dont be an idiot and judgemental
He not being judgmental, he's telling the truth. Springfield is trouble. Many cities in the Midwest are the same. No jobs, high crime, high incidences of lead and other poisons in children. Every year I read about another large find of mercury in an alley or backyard. If people wish to live here they should get involved in the community like community cleanup or children advocacy. There are many people making a difference, in many different ways.

If your not making a difference, maybe it's time.
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Feb 27, 2008
 
What makes you think that Springfield is in trouble? Look at the unemployment, numbers, they are down. Look at Nextedge, look at Bechtle, look at the new hospital, look at all the new businesses in town, look at the revitalization on john street, look at the leffels lane, you do not see very many empty buildings sitting around not being used. Yes Navistar isn't what it used to be, however, Springfield is in the rebound compared to where it was a few years ago. Not that I have to justify anything to you, but I am making a difference in many areas, maybe we can talk at the next Rainbow table, or habitat, or city hall meetings....if you are there.
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<quoted text>He not being judgmental, he's telling the truth. Springfield is trouble. Many cities in the Midwest are the same. No jobs, high crime, high incidences of lead and other poisons in children. Every year I read about another large find of mercury in an alley or backyard. If people wish to live here they should get involved in the community like community cleanup or children advocacy. There are many people making a difference, in many different ways.
If your not making a difference, maybe it's time.

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What makes you think that Springfield is in trouble? Look at the unemployment, numbers, they are down. Look at Nextedge, look at Bechtle, look at the new hospital, look at all the new businesses in town, look at the revitalization on john street, look at the leffels lane, you do not see very many empty buildings sitting around not being used. Yes Navistar isn't what it used to be, however, Springfield is in the rebound compared to where it was a few years ago. Not that I have to justify anything to you, but I am making a difference in many areas, maybe we can talk at the next Rainbow table, or habitat, or city hall meetings....if you are there.
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Are the things you contribute the only way to make a difference? I find it amazing you would think the condition of Springfield is ok. I have lived here for 11 years. I only see more apathy, more poverty, more empty houses.
It's great the Hospital is going to go downtown.You mentioning it says alot about what you think will make things better. A building is only as good as the people who fill it. Unfortunately the providers here are by far some of the worst I have come across. The amount of misdiagnoses and horrible consequenses of the same I have experienced personally and by aquaintances is staggering.
I know a few Doctors socially and they seem like fine people, and it is unfortunate that they are associated with the others.
I should say the Doctors and Nurses at Rocking Horse are wonderful examples in their field.It is unfortunate others don't aim for that standard.

Are the unemployment numbers down? Please back that up with statistics. I believe your wrong.Many of the jobs your talking about are retail. Who can support a family working at Walmart, or a waiter at Olive Garden, Kohls? They look nice but they are low end jobs.
There are some possibilities coming. But they aren't a large number. If you think so please correct me.
There are empty building all over this city, and they look horrible.
Springfield should be designated a super fund clean up site as well.
Don't get me wrong, there are endearing things associated with this city. It's history is unbelievable.There is a large group of wonderful people who work in the inner city who make a difference for those less fortunate. There is a large group of untapped workers available to spring into action.But they will sit idle until something worth action occurs.
If your trying to change those things, great. Just take off your blinders.Don't take criticism personally.
The work I do for your community is not something I do for public acknowledgment. I will never be in the paper, nor will I attend any formal outings. I'll just keep plugging along.But I do make a difference. Just not a public one.

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crash wrote:
What makes you think that Springfield is in trouble? Look at the unemployment, numbers, they are down. Look at Nextedge, look at Bechtle, look at the new hospital, look at all the new businesses in town, look at the revitalization on john street, look at the leffels lane, you do not see very many empty buildings sitting around not being used. Yes Navistar isn't what it used to be, however, Springfield is in the rebound compared to where it was a few years ago. Not that I have to justify anything to you, but I am making a difference in many areas, maybe we can talk at the next Rainbow table, or habitat, or city hall meetings....if you are there.
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Just curious, if you are part of "City Hall", were you part of the group that knew WalMart was going to build on Bechtel when they were going after the vote on the Super WalMart on 40? If so, you did a great disservice to your city by not going public. Would people have voted for it if they knew a Super WalMart was going to go up on Bechtle? They would have not approved it.
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Feb 28, 2008
 
No, I have nothing to do with city hall and knew nothing of the walmart situtation. www.bls.gov/eag/eag.oh_springfield_msa.htm is the link for the US department of labor, then compare those stats with other cities, as I said before, we are not in that bad of shape. How can so many people afford to go out to eat and spend 8 to 20 dollars a head if everyone is so poor in Springfield. I am with you on the community service thing, some people do it for the wrong reasons. Foreclosures are up all over the state and I don't believe there is that much poverty in Springfield compared to other places. What do you mean "Are the things you contribute the only way to make a difference?" My personal experiences with the hospitals, doctors, and nurses are all good. They are careful and congenial and I have had no problems, of course I have never been admitted longer than same day stuff. Quite a few specialist in our hospitals are the same ones that go out to dayton and columbus, so I disagree with you on that subject. I am not a huge proponet of combining the Hospitals but I do think it will improve the downtown image considerably. I still dont see all the vacant buildings you are talking about, but I guess we can agree to disagree. You have to start somewhere, we upgraded our schools and hopefully we will see the result of that in a few years and I think if the hospital does go in, there will be other businesses that will improve their image and basicallyt the domino effect. You are grouping people together by "You mentioning it says alot about what you think will make things better" by the way.
ucantbsrius wrote:
<quoted text> Are the things you contribute the only way to make a difference? I find it amazing you would think the condition of Springfield is ok. I have lived here for 11 years. I only see more apathy, more poverty, more empty houses.
It's great the Hospital is going to go downtown.You mentioning it says alot about what you think will make things better. A building is only as good as the people who fill it. Unfortunately the providers here are by far some of the worst I have come across. The amount of misdiagnoses and horrible consequenses of the same I have experienced personally and by aquaintances is staggering.
I know a few Doctors socially and they seem like fine people, and it is unfortunate that they are associated with the others.
I should say the Doctors and Nurses at Rocking Horse are wonderful examples in their field.It is unfortunate others don't aim for that standard.
Are the unemployment numbers down? Please back that up with statistics. I believe your wrong.Many of the jobs your talking about are retail. Who can support a family working at Walmart, or a waiter at Olive Garden, Kohls? They look nice but they are low end jobs.
There are some possibilities coming. But they aren't a large number. If you think so please correct me.
There are empty building all over this city, and they look horrible.
Springfield should be designated a super fund clean up site as well.
Don't get me wrong, there are endearing things associated with this city. It's history is unbelievable.There is a large group of wonderful people who work in the inner city who make a difference for those less fortunate. There is a large group of untapped workers available to spring into action.But they will sit idle until something worth action occurs.
If your trying to change those things, great. Just take off your blinders.Don't take criticism personally.
The work I do for your community is not something I do for public acknowledgment. I will never be in the paper, nor will I attend any formal outings. I'll just keep plugging along.But I do make a difference. Just not a public one.
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