District to trim school hours

District to trim school hours

There are 114 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from May 23, 2007, titled District to trim school hours. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

Junior high students in Springfield Township will get out of school 50 minutes earlier as part of continued moves by the schools to cut costs.

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buggs

Lorain, OH

#1 May 23, 2007
i am tired of hearing that no votes are to send a message to the state about funding.

THEY DON"T CARE!!!

if the did care...it would have been dealt with years ago before the stooges in the supreme court said..they were tired of it..you take care of it!
Mr Reality

Cleveland, OH

#3 May 23, 2007
Unfortunately, because of the lawmakers and legislators of Ohio refusing to fix the school funding mess, the children will continue to suffer as schools have no choice than to make cuts, such as cutting back the hours of school and classes that are offered.

The article says that voters shooting down levies is their way of sending a message to Columbus to fix school funding.

Are you kidding me? What a stupid way to send a message. Has ANYONE bothered writing the officials YOU elected and start holding THEM accountable? How about starting. Tell them to start spending some serious time on this (instead of wasting time on stupid legislation on strip clubs) or they will not get your vote next time around and you'll tell your friends not to vote either as they do not care about the kids or education. START HOLDING THESE DAMN OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE!!!

Meanwhile, in light of the recent news about alot of students statewide not graduating because of state testing, I find it very hypocritical that they are so strict on state testing.

I really hate saying this, but Ohio continues to make itself a bigger joke with each passing day. The reasons why people continue to leave Ohio in large amounts continue to mount.
Mary

Desoto, TX

#4 May 23, 2007
Well this is a disaster in the making. And just how will parents that work have to adjust their already stressful lives to make sure the kids are safe & at home .....what a cop out by the school administartion.
JRR

Akron, OH

#5 May 23, 2007
What the heck is going on over there in Springfield...Akron is looking better every day!!
If you cut the school day there will be more time for the kids to get into trouble...the average parent does not get home until 5:30 p.m. that will give the kids almost 4 hours to be at home by themselves or put more pressure on the parents to kind someone to care for the kids.
If you are going to cut the school day then you need to cut the Administrators pay also! Why pay for the teachers to sit on their butsÂ…you know half of those teachers are going to duck out early and go enjoy themselves on my money that you are paying them!!
Amazed

Streetsboro, OH

#6 May 23, 2007
There was an article in the Southside Leader (not sure if the name is correct) paper and they did a audit of the books in Springfield. The article states that even though 26 teaching jobs were eliminated the cost of payroll and benefits increaded by $96,000. Everyone received a 3.25% pay increase. I think the admin and teachers and support staff need to think about a wage freeze and drop the millage, maybe then it would pass.
DOGGIN IT

Cleveland, OH

#7 May 23, 2007
what a poor example springfield is setting- why doesn't the administration just come out and say- no I WON'T trim back MY PAY since i really don't care at all about education, just MY PAYCHECK. these are CHILDREN RUNNING THESE SCHOOLS!!!!!! they have no desire to spend time trimming back unnecessary services, purchases and positions, so they'll just cut back on ACTUAL EDUCATION. wow glad I don't live in springfield, and never will NOW. the property taxes in springfield are OUTRAGEOUS RIGHT NOW, considering what you get for your hard earned dollars there.
BELLABABE

Akron, OH

#8 May 23, 2007
I read a comment in the Suburbanite that quoted one person saying they needed to make more cuts to force the parents to vote yes on the levy in August. They seem to forget that it's not just parents voting. There are alot of folks who don't have kids or their kids don't go to Springfield so they will always vote no. Making more cuts isn't going to change their minds at all. My neighbor who sold his house and his kids are in a home school program couldn't wait to vote no on the levy. Why should he care. He sold his house. He doesn't even live there anymore. So see...it's not just parents they need to blame.
Joe

Stow, OH

#9 May 23, 2007
The real problem is a lack of confidence in Education controlled by Liberals. The Liberal model (didn't we come up with this because it fit the harvest schedule?) traps students in a quagmire of funding/survival of the status quo to preserve mediocrity at best. Until we figure out this is the Information Age, not the Industrial Age and request significant changes in the model, the system is not going to move forward in a country that is split politically 50/50. Our Founding Fathers set it up to encourage dialogue and compromise. You cannot shut out/blow off the other side's point of view. We need to develop a model that pays the highest wages and starts attracting the best and the brightest into Education. Then, aggressively move forward by focusing on exploiting the distance learning, free lap tops and beaming the best teacher by subject matter into a child's home. Hey, we may even get to have one of the parents start parenting instead of laying that responsibility on some underpaid teacher and maybe we can get the to stop working for minimum wage and using a large part for gasoline consumption anyway. Stop focusing on political talking points and get it done...don't blame someone else!
Springfield Resident

Stockbridge, GA

#10 May 23, 2007
I have lived in the Springfield School District for fifteen (15) years now. I have two children attending the Springfield Schools, one in High School, the other in Elementary school. As a property owner in the district, this school levy would have increased my property taxes almost 300.00 a year! That makes my property taxes running close to 2,000.00/year! Unbelievable. It is hard enought to pay what we have to now and it would be nearly impossible to pay that amount of an increase if this levy passes! I will sell my home and move my children to a better school district for that amount of money. I have not seen any money put into the high school since my child has been attending there, and even before that! Right now, there is no working girls restroom in that school period! Oh, okay, I'm sorry it is our fault for not passing the levy right? I am outraged at the district trying to depend on the property owners to pay for their financial burden. If the school districts would stop depending on property owners to pay for their negligence on budgeting and turn to the state to begin with instead of depending solely on the property owners, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in presently! I feel that ever since we took on the open enrollment program, our expenses have of course tripled!!! We are not receiving enough money from the state to take on the number of students that are attending through open enrollment. I say, stop the open enrollment process now, and try to save what we can where we can! Does this make any sense to anyone? It just seems funny to me that our school district started spiraling out of control when this occurred! We need to have knowledgable board members who know how to budget and spend accordingly! What about closing down one of our 7 schools in the district? How much money will that save us? Why do we have a separate Kindgergarden, 3 Elementary Schools, One Intermediate School, a Jr High and High School! Do you think that maybe this is a little too many! How about our children who live her in the district? They are suffering because of our need to continue with open enrollment and expenses on 7 schools! Somebody, please, help our children that live here, by stopping the open enrollment process and get rid of one of the schools! Make sense??? Makes sense to me!
What

Akron, OH

#11 May 23, 2007
So now we'll have unsupervised kids on the streets at 2:00 in the afternoon? So much for no child left behind. I don't think this is wise.
smile for me

United States

#12 May 23, 2007
Feel like my hands are tied...our family votes for the levies to pass so our kids will have a good education. Springfield is a good school; both of my children have excelled. Help me with this one...when it was deemed "unconstitutional" for the property taxes to fund the school, why didn't anything change? Who was suppose to fix that? The state of Ohio? I heard they may try to pull Springfield into Akron Public Schools Systems....I am not ok with that. We are up to our eyeballs in debt (our own fault) but are considering putting the house on the market and moving south....Maybe a fresh start would be brighten our horizon. For now, we are lucky to have family who supervise the kids after school, so as far as I know - we will be fine. I just worry about all the other children that will have to either go unsupervised or parents that are struggling as it is will have to pay for after school day care. Looks like we'll have to keep on praying and hope for the best.
Be nice...this was my first post!
Springfield

Akron, OH

#13 May 23, 2007
No one is going to want to open enroll to Springfield due to this mess of a school district!!

My husband attend Springfield and would have finished in 1995. He played football and as long as he was playing the teachers were passing him so he could play...then after the last game of his senior year the teachers turned on him and actually made him work for his grades...come on what kind of teachers teach there!! You need to support the kids from the start and show that you care about them not just because of the sports or what they can do outside of the classroom!!
Amazed

Streetsboro, OH

#14 May 23, 2007
I too read that article in the Suburbanite. I was utterly appalled.
Steve

Canton, OH

#15 May 23, 2007
"This is good news. The school is can obviously perform the same functions in less time. In business, we call this productivity."

Are you kidding me here? We are talking about EDUCATION here...not how many parts one person can produce in an alloted amount of time! We are talking about shaping the minds and spirits of our countries future leaders! I simply cannot believe the simple minded thinking that some people have concerning this subject.
Springfield

Akron, OH

#16 May 23, 2007
Why wouldn't you want Akron to take over Springfield...Akron parents passed their levy and want our children to exceed and have a good education! Akron does not want Springfield...Springfield does not support their schools or their children that is apparent! Akron is going to excel and Springfield is going down the drain!!
Joe

Stow, OH

#17 May 23, 2007
Springfield Resident wrote:
I have lived in the Springfield School District for fifteen (15) years now. I have two children attending the Springfield Schools, one in High School, the other in Elementary school. As a property owner in the district, this school levy would have increased my property taxes almost 300.00 a year! That makes my property taxes running close to 2,000.00/year! Unbelievable. It is hard enought to pay what we have to now and it would be nearly impossible to pay that amount of an increase if this levy passes! I will sell my home and move my children to a better school district for that amount of money. I have not seen any money put into the high school since my child has been attending there, and even before that! Right now, there is no working girls restroom in that school period! Oh, okay, I'm sorry it is our fault for not passing the levy right? I am outraged at the district trying to depend on the property owners to pay for their financial burden. If the school districts would stop depending on property owners to pay for their negligence on budgeting and turn to the state to begin with instead of depending solely on the property owners, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in presently! I feel that ever since we took on the open enrollment program, our expenses have of course tripled!!! We are not receiving enough money from the state to take on the number of students that are attending through open enrollment. I say, stop the open enrollment process now, and try to save what we can where we can! Does this make any sense to anyone? It just seems funny to me that our school district started spiraling out of control when this occurred! We need to have knowledgable board members who know how to budget and spend accordingly! What about closing down one of our 7 schools in the district? How much money will that save us? Why do we have a separate Kindgergarden, 3 Elementary Schools, One Intermediate School, a Jr High and High School! Do you think that maybe this is a little too many! How about our children who live her in the district? They are suffering because of our need to continue with open enrollment and expenses on 7 schools! Somebody, please, help our children that live here, by stopping the open enrollment process and get rid of one of the schools! Make sense??? Makes sense to me!
Here's some out of the box thinking on YOUR problem. Merge with the Akron Public Schools who are building new buildings while losing enrollment. You reduce costs by eliminating one entire group of administrators, tutors, extra teachers etc etc. Why not move on this course of action instead of trying to get your state legislator to put his hand in someone else's pocket somewhere else in the state for YOUR issue?
BELLABABE

Akron, OH

#18 May 23, 2007
Mother of 2 students wrote:
Feel like my hands are tied...our family votes for the levies to pass so our kids will have a good education. Springfield is a good school; both of my children have excelled. Help me with this one...when it was deemed "unconstitutional" for the property taxes to fund the school, why didn't anything change? Who was suppose to fix that? The state of Ohio? I heard they may try to pull Springfield into Akron Public Schools Systems....I am not ok with that. We are up to our eyeballs in debt (our own fault) but are considering putting the house on the market and moving south....Maybe a fresh start would be brighten our horizon. For now, we are lucky to have family who supervise the kids after school, so as far as I know - we will be fine. I just worry about all the other children that will have to either go unsupervised or parents that are struggling as it is will have to pay for after school day care. Looks like we'll have to keep on praying and hope for the best.
Be nice...this was my first post!
I'm thinking about moving too but good luck selling your house. People don't want to move to an area with a poor school system.
Joe

Stow, OH

#19 May 23, 2007
Steve wrote:
"This is good news. The school is can obviously perform the same functions in less time. In business, we call this productivity."
Are you kidding me here? We are talking about EDUCATION here...not how many parts one person can produce in an alloted amount of time! We are talking about shaping the minds and spirits of our countries future leaders! I simply cannot believe the simple minded thinking that some people have concerning this subject.
No Steve its not "simple-minded" Its another point of view. You can't just blow it off. The current system of preserving the status quo and trapping our kids in mediocrity is not working.
Amazed

Streetsboro, OH

#20 May 23, 2007
Is it possible to force the issue of merging...If it were to happen do people in Springfield then pay the same property tax rate as people in the city?
DOGGIN IT

Cleveland, OH

#21 May 23, 2007
Springfield wrote:
Why wouldn't you want Akron to take over Springfield...Akron parents passed their levy and want our children to exceed and have a good education! Akron does not want Springfield...Springfield does not support their schools or their children that is apparent! Akron is going to excel and Springfield is going down the drain!!
AKRON IS GOING TO EXCEL??!! DO YOU KNOW THE STATS OF THE APS? THEY'RE JUST HORRENDOUS. THEY AREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO MEETING THE STATE MINIMUM TESTING PERCENTAGES- NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!!

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