Could the next pope be from Africa?

Feb 11, 2013 Full story: Click2Houston

Hours after Pope Benedict XVI's resignation announcement Monday, speculation was surging over who might be his successor -- and what part of the world the new pontiff could be from.

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#1 Feb 11, 2013
..maybe so...eh..

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#4 Feb 14, 2013
let’s consider one reason Pope Benedict XVI might have resigned. Of course, his health is the main reason, and I think his health and his long-expressed wish, even before he was elected pope, to retire mean we do not need any conspiracies to explain the peculiarity of his resignation. That doesn’t mean, however, there are not other significant factors pressing upon Benedict that influenced his decision. Human choices often have many pros and cons one weighs carefully before making a decision like this, and it often takes more than one factor to tip the balance. The one contributing factor that I think might have the most influence in getting anyone to resign before he dies is the hope of having influence over the choice of his successor. There is nothing dark or conspiratorial about that. If one knows his health is rapidly declining, and he has lost the strength to do the job so that it is a great burden to him, AND he has a particular person in mind he would most like to see get the position, that would be good incentive to say,“I’d like to step aside so that my chosen can take the mantel from me and I can help make sure that happens and can enjoy seeing him do it.”

I see reasons to think Pope Benedict XVI would like to see Cardinal Peter Turkson get the job. Let us start with the pope’s own coat of arms, which is unusual.

On few things are images more symbolic or as personally representative than on a coat of arms. The symbols are carefully chosen and simplified to say,“This is who I am. This is my personal and professional logo.” Among the roughly one-hundred coats of arms designed for popes, Benedict XVI’s is the only one to feature a human being. The left side of his shield bears the head of a black man wearing a crown. Many have asked questions about why this unusual charge, as such images on a shield are called, is there. Parts of Benedict XVI’s coat of arms are typical to papal coats of arms. At the crest is the papal crown. On all other coats of arms, the papal tiara is used, but Benedict XVI chose the mitre of the Bishop of Rome. Behind the shield one always finds the “Keys of Heaven,” spoken of in the Book of Revelation and understood by Catholics as given from Christ to Peter as the symbol of papal authority. It is the shield in the coat of arms that represents the individual most of all.

The Black man with the crown is the “Moor of Freising” from the coat of arms of the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising where Joseph Ratzinger was archbishop sometime prior to becoming pope. The bear on the right represents the patron saint of Munich and Freising. So, these may only be there to connect Benedict XVI to his former career path and homeland. The pope’s own written comments on the subject indicate he doesn’t know where the image came from originally, but apparently he liked it. In his 1998 book Milestones: Memoirs 1927-1977, he wrote,“For me,[the African king] is an expression of the universality of the Church.”

If that universality is so central to him as a person that he wanted it on his coat of arms, he may want to see that universality expressed more concretely in the Church via the election of a black pope. He may want to “see that through,” so to speak.

I"ve written much more about this for anyone interested in following the thinking further than there is room to share here:

http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/who-will-b...

--Knave Dave

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#5 Feb 14, 2013
One reason Pope Benedict XVI might have resigned is to get the Black man into office that he longs to see there. Of course, his health is the main reason, and I think his health and his long-expressed wish, even before he was elected pope, to retire mean we do not need any conspiracies to explain the peculiarity of his resignation. That doesn’t mean, however, there are not other significant factors pressing upon Benedict that influenced his decision. Human choices often have many pros and cons one weighs carefully before making a decision like this, and it often takes more than one factor to tip the balance. The one contributing factor that I think might have the most influence in getting anyone to resign before he dies is the hope of having influence over the choice of his successor. There is nothing dark or conspiratorial about that. If one knows his health is rapidly declining, and he has lost the strength to do the job so that it is a great burden to him, AND he has a particular person in mind he would most like to see get the position, that would be good incentive to say,“I’d like to step aside so that my chosen can take the mantel from me and I can help make sure that happens and can enjoy seeing him do it.”

I see reasons to think Pope Benedict XVI would like to see Cardinal Peter Turkson get the job. Let us start with the pope’s own coat of arms, which is unusual.

On few things are images more symbolic or as personally representative than on a coat of arms. The symbols are carefully chosen and simplified to say,“This is who I am. This is my personal and professional logo.” Among the roughly one-hundred coats of arms designed for popes, Benedict XVI’s is the only one to feature a human being. The left side of his shield bears the head of a black man wearing a crown. Many have asked questions about why this unusual charge, as such images on a shield are called, is there. Parts of Benedict XVI’s coat of arms are typical to papal coats of arms. At the crest is the papal crown. On all other coats of arms, the papal tiara is used, but Benedict XVI chose the mitre of the Bishop of Rome. Behind the shield one always finds the “Keys of Heaven,” spoken of in the Book of Revelation and understood by Catholics as given from Christ to Peter as the symbol of papal authority. It is the shield in the coat of arms that represents the individual most of all.

The Black man with the crown is the “Moor of Freising” from the coat of arms of the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising where Joseph Ratzinger was archbishop sometime prior to becoming pope. The bear on the right represents the patron saint of Munich and Freising. So, these may only be there to connect Benedict XVI to his former career path and homeland. The pope’s own written comments on the subject indicate he doesn’t know where the image came from originally, but apparently he liked it. In his 1998 book Milestones: Memoirs 1927-1977, he wrote,“For me,[the African king] is an expression of the universality of the Church.”

If that universality is so central to him as a person that he wanted it on his coat of arms, he may want to see that universality expressed more concretely in the Church via the election of a black pope. He may want to “see that through,” so to speak.

I"ve written much more about this for anyone interested in following the thinking further than there is room to share here:

http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/who-will-b...

--Knave Dave

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