Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...

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#17378 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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I had a feeling it wouldn't take 5 minutes to discredit this ranking, let's try 3 minutes.
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"A closer look at the WHO health care study reveals startling assumptions, critical lapses in statistical judgment, and a clearly predetermined politica agenda." http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/w...
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The WHO referenced is the World Health Organization.
'WHO couldn’t gather all the appropriate data for all nations, so its researchers had to make some assumptions and calculations using other bits of information, such as literacy rates and income. Bialik quotes the editor in chief of the report, Philip Musgrove, as saying that the figures that resulted from these assumptions are "so many made-up numbers." Musgrove, deputy editor of Health Affairs, calls the end result "nonsense ranking" and the very attempt to rank health care systems "a fool’s errand." '
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/37th-in-heal...
+1 (again)

In other words, you blew that post out of the water...

Since: Jan 10

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#17379 Jul 5, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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How about a link to this info. I am guessing ALL of the above except for the U.S. have socialized medicine, huh? lol
+1

You, perhaps, should have noted your sarcasm a little better, some clueless and uneducated minion misinterpreted your "lol"...

Since: Nov 12

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#17381 Jul 5, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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"So now you argue with polls,"
Ah, I think I understand the problem now, "what we have here is a failure to communicate".

"So now you argue with polls" = when I used it, I meant that your post seemed to imply you were arguing with the legitimacy of the poll RESULTS.

I believe you thought I was criticizing you for USING polls to argue.(And yes, that would have been a silly argument, had I been making it.)

I would say the miscommunication was my fault, I should have been more clear that I believed you were arguing with the poll RESULTS, as opposed to USING poll results.

I hope that made sense this time.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17383 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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"The site has gained recognition and won numerous awards for its contributions to political journalism. In 2006, TIME magazine named FactCheck.org one of the “25 Sites We Can’t Live Without.”[13] In 2008, PC Magazine called it one of the “20 Best Political Websites.”[14] Between 2008 and 2012, the site won four Webby Awards in the Politics category, in 2008, 2010, 2011, and 2012; as well as four People’s Voice Awards in Politics, in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012.[15] FactCheck.org also won a 2010 Sigma Delta Chi Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for reporting on deceptive claims made about the federal health care legislation.[16]"
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2329086,...
https://www.spj.org/sdxa10.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org
Just wondering, does PolitiFact have your seal of approval, they were only awarded a single Pulitzer?

Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize_f...
2009: St. Petersburg Times Staff, "for “PolitiFact,” its fact-checking initiative during the 2008 presidential campaign that used probing reporters and the power of the World Wide Web to examine more than 750 political claims, separating rhetoric from truth to enlighten voters."
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Broken Arrow, OK

#17384 Jul 5, 2013
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17385 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Ah, I think I understand the problem now, "what we have here is a failure to communicate".
"So now you argue with polls" = when I used it, I meant that your post seemed to imply you were arguing with the legitimacy of the poll RESULTS.
I believe you thought I was criticizing you for USING polls to argue.(And yes, that would have been a silly argument, had I been making it.)
I would say the miscommunication was my fault, I should have been more clear that I believed you were arguing with the poll RESULTS, as opposed to USING poll results.
I hope that made sense this time.
I'm surprised at such an admission, most would not have had the guts.

I never questioned the integrity of the poll, and the "legitimacy" of the results were explained at the end of the referenced article.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100825782
...Gallup Chief Economic Dennis Jacobe said small business owners' answers in the poll "is consistent with owners' tendency to be more Republican than Democratic, higher-income, more against big government, more conservative and less optimistic than Americans overall."

One group that favors Obamacare for small businesses said the findings reflect misconceptions about its true effects as well as the need for continued outreach by reform advocates to the small business community.
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17386 Jul 5, 2013
"Dan Savage, founder of the “It Gets Better” project, an anti-bullying campaign that has reached more than 40 million viewers with contributors ranging from President Obama to Hollywood stars. Savage also writes a sex advice column called “Savage Love.”

Savage, and his husband, were also guests at the White House for President Obama’s 2011 LGBT Pride Month reception. He was also invited to a White House anti-bullying conference."

So Obama contributes to this anti-bulling campaign lead by a homosexual. So lets see how he conducts an anti-bulling campaign at the link below.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...




Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17387 Jul 5, 2013
andy wrote:
<quoted text>FINALLY a conservative the admits that so called socialized medicine is better than the strictly for profit system that we enjoy. As for the link, look it up yourself. Do you really think its funny that 36 other countries take better care of their citizens than the U.S., or are you just..........
Agreed.

Socialized medicine by definition has to be more efficient than allowing insurers to make a profit by skimming off the healthiest people, and charging as highest cost possible for the least benefits possible.

Someday we'll join the rest of the industrialized world and enact a one-payor system.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17388 Jul 5, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>"So now you argue with polls,"
Thanks for the great posts.

Watching your posts factually decimate our Right Wing friends' silliness is entertaining.

Watching them contradict themselves in intellectually painful contortions is even more amusing.

factually
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17389 Jul 5, 2013
What wrote:
Lets see....

Virginia ..

Governor - Right Wing Wacko Republican

Senate - Controlled by Right Wing Wacko Republicans.

House - Controlled by Right Wing Wacko Republicans

Lt. Governor - Right Wing Wacko Republican.

Attorney General - Right Wing Wacko Republican.

Sounds like the girl was lucky they didn't decide she was an "enemy combatant" and just "drone" her.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17390 Jul 5, 2013
Gotta love it ... another shiny object distraction bites the dust.

But don't worry .... another shiny object will be on the way.

"Even More Evidence Shows the IRS Didn't Single Out Conservatives"

http://gawker.com/even-more-evidence-shows-th...

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

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#17391 Jul 5, 2013
andy wrote:
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FINALLY a conservative the admits that so called socialized medicine is better than the strictly for profit system that we enjoy. As for the link, look it up yourself. Do you really think its funny that 36 other countries take better care of their citizens than the U.S., or are you just..........
How does everyone share in the cost? On what are the costs based?
Think taxation before you answer.

Since: Nov 12

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#17392 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Not political in the least, but came across this and am rather ashamed I had not heard of this earlier, since it occurred so close to home. A tragic end to a story of a brave and selfless man.
"A Georgia man who was paralyzed after jumping into a creek to save a young girl from drowning earlier this month has died.
Michael Patterson, 43, died early Friday due to complications following the June 8 incident. Patterson severed his spinal cord when he leapt into the swift-moving Euharlee Creek along the Silver Comet Trail in Rockmart, Ga., to save Javea Jones, a 4-year-old girl whom he had never met. Jones survived, but Patterson suffered several injuries in addition to being paralyzed from the shoulders down, including respiratory acidosis, pneumonia and a bacterial infection."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/28/good-sam...
I usually couldn't care less about whatever little moron loves to hit the clueless/nuts/disagree judgements rather than engage in discussion back and forth. However, to just be a knee jerk jackass about a story of a man who died after risking his life to successfully rescue a little girl truly hits a record low. You must be so proud.

Since: Nov 12

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#17393 Jul 5, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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I'm surprised at such an admission, most would not have had the guts.
I never questioned the integrity of the poll, and the "legitimacy" of the results were explained at the end of the referenced article.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100825782
...Gallup Chief Economic Dennis Jacobe said small business owners' answers in the poll "is consistent with owners' tendency to be more Republican than Democratic, higher-income, more against big government, more conservative and less optimistic than Americans overall."
One group that favors Obamacare for small businesses said the findings reflect misconceptions about its true effects as well as the need for continued outreach by reform advocates to the small business community.
I think its rather sad that you think it takes guts to admit to misunderstanding a sentence.

And it is hardly remarkable that business owners who operate in the real world of balancing budgets and payrolls and costs and expenses and responsibility for their employees and numerous other factors that ivory tower liberals and government bureaucrats are clueless about would tend to vote Republican.

Nor is it surprising that a "group that favors Obamacare" would have a bias that states that those who show in the polls that Obamacare is affecting their employee decisions are misinformed and have "misconceptions."
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17394 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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I usually couldn't care less about whatever little moron loves to hit the clueless/nuts/disagree judgements rather than engage in discussion back and forth. However, to just be a knee jerk jackass about a story of a man who died after risking his life to successfully rescue a little girl truly hits a record low. You must be so proud.
That says so much about the hate filled libs who post here. They pretend to care so much, we know better.

Since: Nov 12

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#17395 Jul 5, 2013
What wrote:
Given what I have read about that incident, it is frightening what happened and truly frightening when you think about what COULD have happened. There may be further information forthcoming that will put a different picture on events, but based on what we know now, the officers handled the situation very poorly and with extreme high handedness.(and my typical reaction is always to initially give police the benefit of the doubt)

Since: Nov 12

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#17396 Jul 5, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Agreed.
Socialized medicine by definition has to be more efficient than allowing insurers to make a profit by skimming off the healthiest people, and charging as highest cost possible for the least benefits possible.
Someday we'll join the rest of the industrialized world and enact a one-payor system.
And if that happens be prepared to wait months for doctor's appts, months for diagnostic scans, months for procedures and be prepared for bureaucrats to tell you that you are not a viable candidate for the procedure/surgery/medication that you need or "that you know what, maybe this isn’t going to help. Maybe you’re better off, uhh, not having the surgery, but, uhh, taking the painkiller" as Obama told one woman in regard to her elderly mother getting a pacemaker.
James

Blue Ridge, GA

#17397 Jul 5, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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And if that happens be prepared to wait months for doctor's appts, months for diagnostic scans, months for procedures and be prepared for bureaucrats to tell you that you are not a viable candidate for the procedure/surgery/medication that you need or "that you know what, maybe this isn’t going to help. Maybe you’re better off, uhh, not having the surgery, but, uhh, taking the painkiller" as Obama told one woman in regard to her elderly mother getting a pacemaker.
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Scare tactics only work for people that refuse to do there home work and learn the facts for themselves. Thomas Edison spent years and large sums of money to discredit Nikolai tesla because he invented ac power and it solved every problem Edison's had trying to implement his DC power to run a a country on the brink of a industrial revolution. Just think what if these scare tactics would have delayed or stopped our country from its early development into a superpower. If we continue this path of failing at education for our kids and refusing to deal with our health care system we will continue to lose ground in our economic race with the rest of the world.
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Broken Arrow, OK

#17398 Jul 5, 2013
"10 ObamaCare fumbles." Obamacare
If Obama was a NFL quarterback and fumbled in one game, he would be benched or traded.
If Obama was a National league baseball player, he would be benched or traded for striking out 10 times in one game.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-r...


What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17399 Jul 5, 2013
James wrote:
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If we continue this path of failing at education for our kids and refusing to deal with our health care system we will continue to lose ground in our economic race with the rest of the world.

"Cracks in the Common Core of Education."

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/07/04/protectin...


Read my above post about Obamacare.

And Aggie is correct. I have friends in England who wait months on end to get medical procedures done. Also months for Doctor's appointments. The only quick medical service rendered there is an emergency.

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