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“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13296 May 25, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Dear Constantly Confused,
You are confusing me with someone else. While it is obvious that all who disagree with your baseless pronouncements have melded into a single entity, we in fact remain separate individuals.
Please note that the post you replied to dealt with determining the cost of a product. Perhaps you thought you were responding to the 60-vote majority required to move anything thru the US Senate.
Dear Constantly Incorrect,
The only thing I could possibly confuse you with would be a turnip.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13297 May 25, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
Something to consider -
by Cathy Payne, USA TODAY
Memorial Day weekend will kick off the summer travel season for many Americans, but some workers won't be able to kick back on a vacation this year.
Nearly one in four Americans (23%) has no paid vacation days, according to a report released today by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a non-profit based in Washington, D.C.
"Relying on businesses to voluntarily provide paid leave just hasn't worked," says report co-author John Schmitt, a senior economist at the center.
The report analyzed national and international data on 21 democracies in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. The group of 21 countries includes 16 in Europe, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand and the USA.
The USA is the only advanced economy that does not require employers to provide paid vacation days, the report says. Many U.S. employers offer paid vacation days and holidays, but no law sets a minimum.
The 27-member European Union requires employers to grant at least 20 paid vacation days a year. Canada and Japan require at least 10.
U.S. law also does not make provisions for paid holidays, but many countries with a comparable standard of living do. For example, Austria guarantees 13 paid holidays; Canada, nine. France, with 30 paid vacation days, requires one paid holiday.
U.S. private sector workers have an average of 10 paid vacation days and six paid holidays a year, the report says. It notes that that does not meet the minimum requirement in 19 countries.
The report also finds a gap between the USA's lowest and highest earners. About 90% of high-wage workers (the top fourth) have paid vacation, vs. 49% of low-wage workers (the bottom 25%). About 91% of high-wage workers have paid holidays, compared with 50% of low-wage workers.
The center first analyzed vacation and holiday data six years ago. "It is striking that six years after we first looked at this topic, absolutely nothing has changed," Schmitt says. "U.S law and U.S. employer behavior still lags far behind the rest of the rich countries in the world."
Why won't you just post the link? I have asked and asked and you simply won't do that unless you are attempting to hide something. This is a reply for what you have CHOSEN to post. Before a person takes a job, he/she should determine what the company offers in the way of vacation. If they don't like it, they should move on. Unions are on their way out.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13298 May 25, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Anyone and everyone can get "into" a union.
Getting into a union is not the problem, the problem is that bought and paid for legislators have created "Right to Starve" states, where you can have all the benefits created by union negotiations, without that pesky necessity of actually joining the union.
Inevitably, as intended, these laws cause the demise of unions as the freeloaders demoralize and financially devastate the union.
Additionally, labor law enforcement has disintegrated to the point that if you intentionally violate a union members rights, fire him, drive him into poverty, conspire to prevent his employment elsewhere, and otherwise destroy his life, and if, after years of litigation, he prevails at trial, his relief is limited to possibly obtaining the job from which he had been illegally fired.
Good luck with surviving that.
Like the Right Wing always does, in order to stifle the rights of the average working man, they simply remove the incentive attorneys have to pursue enforcement of those rights.
Employers laugh at labor law enforcement.
It always has worked, and always will.
Unless it's changed over the past several years, NOT anyone nor everyone can get into a union. I gave an example of a couple of people I know who had to have other Journeyman endorse them before they could enter an apprenticeship program. Perhaps I'm not talking about the same thing as you are, but that is the experience that I know of.
IMO, it's the violence and bullying that unions have a reputation of employing that has hurt them beyond recovery.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13299 May 25, 2013
Will Dockery wrote:
To my friends across the state of Georgia, and notably Synergy and Bill, who are regulars on this thread, we have a big local and free show coming up this Summer here in Columbus Georgia, perhaps y'all, and everyone reading this will come down and join us, maybe even fit in a little Whitewater Rafting as well, if you're so inclined:
Saturday, June 29, 2013
11:00am until 5:00pm
Columbus, GA, US
The "Minstrels on the Block" concert show at the Harley Davidson pavilion will be Saturday, June 29th from 11:00 am - 5:00 pm.
All local performers and bands... come out and support the local music scene!
All Ages - Free Show.
"Idle Hour Night" / Shadowville All-Stars 2013:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...
Heeeeeey, Will. Thanks for the info. Are you going to be preforming?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13300 May 25, 2013
OMTE wrote:
Syn was that your crazy butt they had to drag out for interrupting the President during his speech? They should have tazed you.
Huh? When did the president give a speech? Today?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13301 May 25, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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LOL! I thought exactly the same thing when I saw that!
What in the world are y'all talking about?

Since: Nov 12

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#13302 May 25, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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What in the world are y'all talking about?
Hey, Syn. here's the link, the posts are lame attempts at being "funny".

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/0...

Since: Nov 12

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#13303 May 25, 2013
Okay, I don't think the link is working. Search "woman heckles Obama during counter terrorism speech". I know Townhall had an article as did the Washington Post

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#13304 May 26, 2013
Yeah, you're right. Those posts weren't funny and were very lame. Obama must have been having a slow day. He was actually making a feeble attempt to follow through on a promise he made four and a half years ago.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#13305 May 26, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Why won't you just post the link? I have asked and asked and you simply won't do that unless you are attempting to hide something. This is a reply for what you have CHOSEN to post. Before a person takes a job, he/she should determine what the company offers in the way of vacation. If they don't like it, they should move on. Unions are on their way out.
Agreed that, absent unions, American Workers are nothing but "Human Resources" a/k/a Serfs.

Agreed that, absent unions, the Middle Class and Americans' quality of life will continue to deteriorate.

Agreed that, as long as Right Wing Wackos are able to convince significant numbers of Americans that their only tried and true mechanism to maintain the Middle Class and a decent quality of life, i.e., unions, are "bad", America will continue to decline toward even more "Banana Republic" status.

But hey, I've got my pensions, the kids' educations are all prepaid, trusts are in place to assure graduate degrees are available, but if your want your kids to be serfs, good for you.

Since: Jan 10

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#13306 May 26, 2013
"The higher pay of union jobs represents nothing more than an unfair tax on consumers."

Interesting no one has been able to debate or refute the above comment nor others ones by Mr. Conard.

Also interesting that the clueless and uneducated wouldn't look at it and say union members should take "less" to benefit everyone. Nope, the rich should pay more in taxes

Hypocrisy?

Since: Jan 10

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#13307 May 26, 2013
Will Dockery wrote:
To my friends across the state of Georgia, and notably Synergy and Bill, who are regulars on this thread, we have a big local and free show coming up this Summer here in Columbus Georgia, perhaps y'all, and everyone reading this will come down and join us, maybe even fit in a little Whitewater Rafting as well, if you're so inclined:
Saturday, June 29, 2013
11:00am until 5:00pm
Columbus, GA, US
The "Minstrels on the Block" concert show at the Harley Davidson pavilion will be Saturday, June 29th from 11:00 am - 5:00 pm.
All local performers and bands... come out and support the local music scene!
All Ages - Free Show.
"Idle Hour Night" / Shadowville All-Stars 2013:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...
Howdy Will! I will tentatively put it on the calendar, have a Las Vegas golf trip planned around that time, so I may not make it...

Since: Jan 10

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#13308 May 26, 2013
bored monitor wrote:
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ur a punk, tuff dude.
LMAO.

Although MANY would agree, how can you tell from his/her posts?
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#13309 May 26, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
"The higher pay of union jobs represents nothing more than an unfair tax on consumers."

Interesting no one has been able to debate or refute the above comment nor others ones by Mr. Conard.

Also interesting that the clueless and uneducated wouldn't look at it and say union members should take "less" to benefit everyone. Nope, the rich should pay more in taxes

Hypocrisy?
Refute it ?

I crushed it.

Labor is but one cost of production or services.

And even that just doesn't matter.

Since you are either intentionally dense, or really have no concept of how capitalism works - let me once again explain an immutable fact of business:

Prices reflect the most that can be charged for a good or service, the cost of production is almost meaningless.

For example:

Our dinner companions last night showed me the Rolex Explorer his wife bought my friend to celebrate his sale of a business.

Now, the cost of the materials and the labor required to produce his new "Explorer" is no more than the cost of the materials and labor it required to produce the Tag "Tiger Woods" watch he wore for the past year.

But the cost was triple.

That's because labor, materials, advertising, and administration all form the "floor" of the price range, but:

Products are placed at the highest price possible, regardless of the underlying costs incurred.

One more example for our "slow" friends.

A beginning attorney will start out charging $250 an hour for his services. As he gains experience and ability, his hourly rate climbs to $400 to $500 an hour.

That attorney may, in fact have used technology to reduce his costs substantially, yet he charges more than ever for his services, because he can.

Increased labor costs simply distribute more of the profit to the workers who help create it, and less to the owners.

If you continue to profess the idiotic believe that increased labor costs increase price, it's proof you are simply a Right Wing Wacko propagandist, unworthy of serious consideration.

Now, I'll return to my Monte Cristo cigar, which costs 2X the cost of the cigar my Dad is enjoying, even though they are manufactured with the same labor cost.

You see, those who sell Monte Cristos charge 2X as much, because they can.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#13310 May 26, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>Refute it ?

I crushed it.

Labor is but one cost of production or services.

And even that just doesn't matter.

Since you are either intentionally dense, or really have no concept of how capitalism works - let me once again explain an immutable fact of business:

Prices reflect the most that can be charged for a good or service, the cost of production is almost meaningless.

For example:

Our dinner companions last night showed me the Rolex Explorer his wife bought my friend to celebrate his sale of a business.

Now, the cost of the materials and the labor required to produce his new "Explorer" is no more than the cost of the materials and labor it required to produce the Tag "Tiger Woods" watch he wore for the past year.

But the cost was triple.

That's because labor, materials, advertising, and administration all form the "floor" of the price range, but:

Products are placed at the highest price possible, regardless of the underlying costs incurred.

One more example for our "slow" friends.

A beginning attorney will start out charging $250 an hour for his services. As he gains experience and ability, his hourly rate climbs to $400 to $500 an hour.

That attorney may, in fact have used technology to reduce his costs substantially, yet he charges more than ever for his services, because he can.

Increased labor costs simply distribute more of the profit to the workers who help create it, and less to the owners.

If you continue to profess the idiotic believe that increased labor costs increase price, it's proof you are simply a Right Wing Wacko propagandist, unworthy of serious consideration.

Now, I'll return to my Monte Cristo cigar, which costs 2X the cost of the cigar my Dad is enjoying, even though they are manufactured with the same labor cost.

You see, those who sell Monte Cristos charge 2X as much, because they can.
I'm sorry.

That was too vehement.

The new me is a kinder gentler me.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Even if it's wrong.

Have a great Memorial Day.
Turkey

Dahlonega, GA

#13311 May 26, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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I'm sorry.
That was too vehement.
The new me is a kinder gentler me.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Even if it's wrong.
Have a great Memorial Day.
Turkey man!!

Since: Jan 10

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#13313 May 26, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Well, give you credit, you keep hammering away. A portion of what you posted is correct, a portion is completely wrong, a portion is your (usual) straw man argument regarding items that have not been debated. In other words, you know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know what’s going on. It appears you’ve never been involved in this part of business.
“Prices reflect the most that can be charged for a good or service, the cost of production is almost meaningless.”
LMAO. Prices are set to (hopefully) cover costs and generate an overall profit margin for the business. The higher the costs, the higher the price, otherwise the company may lose money. How does a company determine “the most that can be charged”?
Did you ever have an economics class? Probably not. Some interesting concepts to be learned.
“Products are placed at the highest price possible, regardless of the underlying costs incurred.”
Define “highest price possible”. How does a company determine “the highest price possible”? Wouldn’t the highest price possible be whatever they want it to be? What if their product doesn’t sell at that price?
LMAO again. In some cases, yes, in many cases, no. It depends on the product. I’m well aware a Cadillac has a higher per unit profit than a Malibu. However, competition CERTAINLY has a lot of impact on pricing. Ever bypass one gas station for another because it has a lower price? Ever comparison shop for anything? If you need an elective procedure done at a hospital or health care provider, do you comparison shop?
Ever sat on a pricing committee for a business? Many years ago, I was on a committee to determine pricing at a local hospital. Items for comparison were compared with other local hospitals (the competition), we could have charged more, but likely would have lost business.
Another BTW, labor costs are normally the highest single line item cost at a hospital. Think these costs would be lower without unions?
“A beginning attorney will start out charging $250 an hour for his services. As he gains experience and ability, his hourly rate climbs to $400 to $500 an hour.”
“That attorney may, in fact have used technology to reduce his costs substantially, yet he charges more than ever for his services, because he can.”
Only partially correct/accurate. Attorneys are a great example of where someone can price himself (or herself) out of business. If you’re having something fairly simple and routine done, are you going to the $100 an hour or $500 an hour attorney?
“If you continue to profess the idiotic believe that increased labor costs increase price...”
Wrong again. If I can sell something at $10 a unit whereas my competition (a union shop) has to sell at $12 a unit, all other things being equal, I’ll sell more than my competitor. Simple logic, one would think. Perhaps that’s what’s failing you. Simple logic.
While I somewhat understand your point, and while I have almost the same type of respect for cops as I do service men, I’ll “take” my 30+ years of accounting, finance and business experience over your experience, at least for this discussion.
That being said, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, even though you’re wrong.
BTW, I wouldn’t know about cigars, smoking is stupid. But it’s your right…

Since: Jan 10

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#13314 May 26, 2013
The above post is supposed to look a little more "readable":

Well, give you credit, you keep hammering away. A portion of what you posted is correct, a portion is completely wrong, a portion is your (usual) straw man argument regarding items that have not been debated.

In other words, you know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know what’s going on. It appears you’ve never been involved in this part of business.

“Prices reflect the most that can be charged for a good or service, the cost of production is almost meaningless.”

LMAO. Prices are set to (hopefully) cover costs and generate an overall profit margin for the business. The higher the costs, the higher the price, otherwise the company may lose money.

How does a company determine “the most that can be charged”?

Did you ever have an economics class? Probably not. Some interesting concepts to be learned.

“Products are placed at the highest price possible, regardless of the underlying costs incurred.”

Define “highest price possible”. How does a company determine “the highest price possible”? Wouldn’t the highest price possible be whatever they want it to be? What if their product doesn’t sell at that price?

LMAO again. In some cases, yes, in many cases, no. It depends on the product. I’m well aware a Cadillac has a higher per unit profit than a Malibu. However, competition CERTAINLY has a lot of impact on pricing. Ever bypass one gas station for another because it has a lower price? Ever comparison shop for anything? If you need an elective procedure done at a hospital or health care provider, do you comparison shop?

Ever sat on a pricing committee for a business? Many years ago, I was on a committee to determine pricing at a local hospital. Items for comparison were compared with other local hospitals (the competition), we could have charged more, but likely would have lost business.

Another BTW, labor costs are normally the highest single line item cost at a hospital. Think these costs would be lower without unions?

“A beginning attorney will start out charging $250 an hour for his services. As he gains experience and ability, his hourly rate climbs to $400 to $500 an hour.”

“That attorney may, in fact have used technology to reduce his costs substantially, yet he charges more than ever for his services, because he can.”

Only partially correct/accurate. Attorneys are a great example of where someone can price himself (or herself) out of business. If you’re having something fairly simple and routine done, are you going to the $100 an hour or $500 an hour attorney?

“If you continue to profess the idiotic believe that increased labor costs increase price...”

Wrong again. If I can sell something at $10 a unit whereas my competition (a union shop) has to sell at $12 a unit, all other things being equal, I’ll sell more than my competitor. Simple logic, one would think. Perhaps that’s what’s failing you.

Simple logic.

While I somewhat understand your point, and while I have almost the same type of respect for cops as I do service men, I’ll “take” my 30+ years of accounting, finance and business experience over your experience, at least for this discussion.

That being said, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, even though you’re wrong.

BTW, I wouldn’t know about cigars, smoking is stupid. But it’s your right…

Since: Nov 12

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#13315 May 26, 2013
^^^Great post, Bill.

Since: Nov 12

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#13316 May 26, 2013
To all our veterans out there, those who served overseas and those who did not, but were willing to go if called - thank you for your service.

There was a slide show at our church this morning showing pictures of family members who were veterans who have since passed on. A number of the pictures were obviously WWII era. Some of them were such young boys. At the end of WWll, our nation had 16,000,000 veterans who had served in the war. We are losing them at a rate of 600/day and it is expected there will only be 1,000,000 left by the end of this year. My father in law was a bomber pilot and my father was a fighter pilot - both good men who have since passed on.

I am grateful to those today who are still willing to put on the uniform of our armed forces, knowing that they face the possibility of sacrificing their lives because they made that decision. I know a number of young people who are friends of my children who have made that commitment.
May God Bless them and Keep them.

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