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ChicknButt wrote:
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It was smart to flag those groups. The Tea Party was invented and funded in whole by the Koch Brothers to advance their anti-everybody-but-them agenda. All of these "non-profit" groups that they funnel money through are tax-exampt, but politics can't be their primary function. However - most of these groups WERE created with politics being their primary function, and this has been discovered numerous times by Koch-backed groups.
If you have to apologize for being smart - I guess they need to apologize. But it just makes sense that they would flag those groups for audits.
But I'm sure those on the Left would be squealing like little pigs if, under a Republican administration , organizations like Priorities USA and Priorities USA Action (that were both started by former Obama aides) were targeted for similar extra scrutiny.

Just as a little point of interest, Article 2 of the impeachment charges against Richard Nixon included
"He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service,... in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner."

And before you have a hissy fit that I am trying to say that charges need to be filed against Obama - that is NOT what I am saying. I am simply illustrating that this is no little matter when agents of a government entity, with the absolute power that the IRS has, show a bias towards organizations whose political point of view they disagree with. That is a blatant attempt to stifle free speech using the power of the govt.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/irs-admits-tar...
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May 10, 2013
 
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That was probably the most disturbing post I have ever read. The author's thoughts are most likely the product of a progressive higher education. One that you subsidize with your tax dollars.
I agree, I refuse to read another post by this person.
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May 10, 2013
 
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<quoted text> Needed to finish the thought. Thanks for your forbearance.
NAME-JACKED! By a thug from Millidgeville!
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But I'm sure those on the Left would be squealing like little pigs if, under a Republican administration , organizations like Priorities USA and Priorities USA Action (that were both started by former Obama aides) were targeted for similar extra scrutiny.
Just as a little point of interest, Article 2 of the impeachment charges against Richard Nixon included
"He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service,... in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner."
And before you have a hissy fit that I am trying to say that charges need to be filed against Obama - that is NOT what I am saying. I am simply illustrating that this is no little matter when agents of a government entity, with the absolute power that the IRS has, show a bias towards organizations whose political point of view they disagree with. That is a blatant attempt to stifle free speech using the power of the govt.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/irs-admits-tar...
If you want to catch fish it helps to be around water. That's all I'm saying.
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#10220
May 10, 2013
 
Yeah it's ok to holler F*ggot, q*eer etc. etc. and spout nonsense like rick santorum equating homosexuality with beasteality or pedophilia bla bla bla…….so David Savage came up with the definition to show exactly how disgusted many folks, including myself, feel when we read or hear such disgusting and filthy nonsense.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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If you want to catch fish it helps to be around water. That's all I'm saying.
You really are a master at irony, the only problem is that it is when you think you're being serious.
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Aggie23 wrote:
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But I'm sure those on the Left would be squealing like little pigs if, under a Republican administration , organizations like Priorities USA and Priorities USA Action (that were both started by former Obama aides) were targeted for similar extra scrutiny.
Just as a little point of interest, Article 2 of the impeachment charges against Richard Nixon included
"He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service,... in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner."
And before you have a hissy fit that I am trying to say that charges need to be filed against Obama - that is NOT what I am saying. I am simply illustrating that this is no little matter when agents of a government entity, with the absolute power that the IRS has, show a bias towards organizations whose political point of view they disagree with. That is a blatant attempt to stifle free speech using the power of the govt.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/irs-admits-tar...
Obama won't suffer, it'll be his puppets, Hillary & Rice. Hillary for not doing a darn thing about it, as it unfolded. Rice has already suffered by having to withdraw her name as a possible nomination as Secretary of State. That in itself, proves it was no little matter.
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Obama won't suffer, it'll be his puppets, Hillary & Rice. Hillary for not doing a darn thing about it, as it unfolded. Rice has already suffered by having to withdraw her name as a possible nomination as Secretary of State. That in itself, proves it was no little matter.
This post was meant for Chickenbutt, not for Aggie.
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
This is a twisted interpretation, Charlene Lamb -Deputy Asst Sec for Int'l Programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security stated in Oct 2012 that budget cuts were not a factor in either the refusal to increase security or the decision to lessen security. Eugene Robinson should have done his homework.
"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...
Did Clinton’s State Department fail to provide adequate security for the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi? In retrospect, obviously so. But the three diplomats who testified at the hearing gave no evidence that this failure sprang from anything other than the need to use limited resources as efficiently as possible.

House Republicans who voted to cut funding for State Department security should understand that their philosophy — small government is always better — has consequences. Bureaucrats have to make judgment calls. Sometimes they will be wrong.
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CIA Takes Heat for Role in Libya
November 1, 2012, 9:05 p.m. ET
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...

...The U.S. effort in Benghazi was at its heart a CIA operation, according to officials briefed on the intelligence. Of the more than 30 American officials evacuated from Benghazi following the deadly assault, only seven worked for the State Department. Nearly all the rest worked for the CIA, under diplomatic cover, which was a principal purpose of the consulate, these officials said.

...Congressional investigators say it appears that the CIA and State Department weren't on the same page about their respective roles on security, underlining the rift between agencies over taking responsibility and raising questions about whether the security arrangement in Benghazi was flawed.
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Accountability Review Board (ARB) for Benghazi
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/2...

FINDINGS
2. Systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department (the “Department”) resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.

Security in Benghazi was not recognized and implemented as a “shared responsibility” by the bureaus in Washington charged with supporting the post, resulting in stove-piped discussions and decisions on policy and security.

...Overall, the number of Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) security staff in Benghazi on the day of the attack and in the months and weeks leading up to it was inadequate, despite repeated requests from Special Mission Benghazi and Embassy Tripoli for additional staffing.

...Special Mission Benghazi’s uncertain future after 2012 and its “non-status” as a temporary, residential facility made allocation of resources for security and personnel more difficult, and left responsibility to meet security standards to the working-level in the field, with very limited resources.

...At the same time, the SMC’s dependence on the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security support was misplaced.

...there were some troubling indicators of its reliability in the months and weeks preceding the September attacks. At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours.
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Of course, attempting to silence the whistleblowers by the talking points list, is unethical. They need to get their hands on those e-mails.
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5 hours ago....

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/09...
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This link is more informative than the NBC article.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9490...

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Oh my wrote:
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"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.
Nope, it is an acknowledgement of the facts of Ms Lamb's testimony and acknowledgement of her position as Dept Asst Secretary of Int'l Programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security - which would cerrtainly imply she knows what she is talking about. No opinion needed - just a willingness to read and comprehend the written word.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher:“Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”
Charlene Lamb: No, sir.

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Oh my wrote:
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"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.
This quotation includes Rep Rohrabacher's complete question:

State Department Official Charlene Lamb Testified Before The House Oversight Committee That Budget Cuts Had Nothing To Do With Security Decisions In Benghazi. REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA):“It has been suggested the budget cuts are responsible for lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally, was there any budget consideration and lack of budget that led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” STATE DEPARTMENT DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS CHARLENE LAMB:“No, sir.”(U.S. House Of Representatives, Oversight And Government Reform Committee, Hearing, 10/10/12)
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Aggie23 wrote:
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This quotation includes Rep Rohrabacher's complete question:
State Department Official Charlene Lamb Testified Before The House Oversight Committee That Budget Cuts Had Nothing To Do With Security Decisions In Benghazi. REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA):“It has been suggested the budget cuts are responsible for lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally, was there any budget consideration and lack of budget that led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” STATE DEPARTMENT DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS CHARLENE LAMB:“No, sir.”(U.S. House Of Representatives, Oversight And Government Reform Committee, Hearing, 10/10/12)
Shame on you for using facts to explode the talking points of a loyal progressive. You better apologize before you changed with a hate crime.

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Paul Broun in 2014.
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Well, well, well.... things are looking too good for the White House concerning the Bengahzi cover-up AND the IRS being used for political purposes. Double whammy!
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Rice has already suffered by having to withdraw her name as a possible nomination as Secretary of State. That in itself, proves it was no little matter.
That's very circular logic.

1. Republicans wanted her head because that's what they do.
2. Rice folded due to the Republicans, proving it was no little matter.
3. Rice folding proves it was worth wanting her head for.
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General Robert E Lee wrote:
Paul Broun in 2014.
Bill Nye the Science Guy:

Science educator Bill Nye questioned Broun's ability to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, stating,'"Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest"' and that '"He is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."

Paul Broun is as uneducated and unethical as a politician can be. He's about as smart as a bag of hammers. The voters that put him in office REALLY should be embarrassed for the irresponsibility of their actions in such a serious matter.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Bill Nye the Science Guy:
Science educator Bill Nye questioned Broun's ability to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, stating,'"Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest"' and that '"He is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."
Paul Broun is as uneducated and unethical as a politician can be. He's about as smart as a bag of hammers. The voters that put him in office REALLY should be embarrassed for the irresponsibility of their actions in such a serious matter.
Facts please.

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