TimmyMcTrucker

Canton, OH

#20796 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Mis-speaking, typo's & other such things are not lying. But then you know that.
You just don't care to be civil.
No, no old man. You stated that Obama had tripled the deficit and I called you a liar. I stated that you got your info from a Tea Bagger emailed newsletter which you denied. I then posted the TeaBagger emailed newsletter that started the false propaganda you were repeating. You then claimed you "misspoke". Only because you were busted in one of your many lies on here.

You claim I always lie on here. Go ahead and post one lie. Yah, that's what I thought, you mouthpiece of dementia.
TimmyMcTrucker

Canton, OH

#20797 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Go build a midnight basketball court or petition your Congress person about how much water our toilets use.
Huh? Never heard of it. Now you guys fighting against the evil's of Big Bird, that was all over the news. You remember? The guy with the magic Mormon underwear you tried to put in charge of our country was going on and on about it.
TimmyMcTrucker

Canton, OH

#20798 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Naah, just pointing out the similarities between Communists and so-called progressives. Actually, there is very little difference between them.
Whew. That's good. For a minute there I thought you were going to post direct quotes from a child murderer who followed the same beliefs as I did. The funniest part is when Reality Speaks spouts off at the mouth about how Timothy McVeigh was exactly right. That really helps your case.
TimmyMcTrucker

Canton, OH

#20799 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Threats?? YOU must have changed the meaning of 'slap & tickle' from your use to mine. Another example of your stifled comprehension.
Oh I see. So you were stating you would like to grope me. Sorry but statistically speaking, you rightwingers prefer your grope victims to be much, much, much younger.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20800 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyMcTrucker wrote:
<quoted text>Whew. That's good. For a minute there I thought you were going to post direct quotes from a child murderer who followed the same beliefs as I did. The funniest part is when Reality Speaks spouts off at the mouth about how Timothy McVeigh was exactly right. That really helps your case.
So your stance is because McVeigh was a kook, everything he said was insane?

That's why I posted Constitutional quotes: to point out some of our founders said some of the very same things that McVeigh did.

The thing about McVeigh is that he had no Republican political friends. We can't say the same thing about DumBama now can we?

So I'll get off of the overwhelming US Communist support for DumBama, and we'll play by your rules.

From now on, every single time you quote McVeigh, I'm going to quote one of DumBama's terrorist friends: Bill Ayers.

Yes, since he was a domestic terrorist, everything he believed in (and still believes) must be associated with leftists. Then I can demonstrate how kooky leftists beliefs are. After all, DumBama announced his decision to run for President at Ayers home. Therefore, DumBama must share some of his beliefs, don't you think?

I might even change my screen name from time to time just like you do. Look for my posts under something like CantonAyerHead.

Now I must get to work. I have to read the leftist beliefs of DumBama's terrorist friend. That won't be easy since Global Warming is still with us and I don't like to spend too much time inside the house when the weather is this favorable.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20801 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyMcTrucker wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Never heard of it. Now you guys fighting against the evil's of Big Bird, that was all over the news. You remember? The guy with the magic Mormon underwear you tried to put in charge of our country was going on and on about it.
Isn't it amazing that a guy with magic underwear would have been ten times the leader as your community organizer?

Your response here tells me one thing: you are a much younger person than I am. Because if you were anywhere near my age, you would have remembered the Democrat Congress's effort and laws against the manufacturing of toilets with too large of a tank. That's right, your heros actually made it illegal for companies to manufacture toilets that wasted too much water. Of course, they didn't consider that people with lesser gallon toilet tanks would have to flush three times to get the job done as one regular toilet. But what the hell? Liberal polices are not about results--they are about effort. Their efforts started bootleg toilets from Canada.

Bill Clinton started the midnight basketball courts project to reduce violent crime in the inner-city. After all, thems black peoples loves thems basketballs, don'ts they? After all, if they're not going to work or go to school, give thems blacks a basketball. BTW, his project resulted in three shootings within the first two years of the erection of these facilities. And I'm sure their local schools appreciated Clinton's project that kept these kids out of school.

Now unless you can point to me where in the US Constitution our federal government is required to fund liberal broadcasts like PBS, then I would say that Romney and Republicans were right on. If PBS can't make it on their own like conservative broadcasts, they should be taken off the air. See uninformed voter, that's the catch. It wasn't about Big Bird. That's something the Democrats played with. It was about wasting tax dollars to support a liberal broadcast.

But if you continue to make fun of Romney and Big Bird, then I'll get some quotes from Democrat politicians who were outraged that Republicans defunded Cowboy Poetry. Now that was a hoot. But you're probably too young to remember that too.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20802 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyMcTrucker wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said Obama wasn't doing it. There's that conniving GOP twist again. What I stated was all of these so called "Constitutionalists" were happy to oblige when Bush raped the Constitution with the Patriot Act. Now when a black man does the same thing...oh the tyranny.
Doesn't that work both ways? When a white man was in charge of the NSA listening to phone calls and reading e-mail, the liberals had a conniption. When DumBama does it, no problem.

When Bush went into Iraq, the liberal complaint was that we should not be attacking countries that presented no direct threat to the US. Libya? No problem. Syria? No problem. Yugoslavia? No problem.

Republicans should not be holding people in Gitmo without giving them Constitutional rights and a fair and speedy trial. When DumBama does it? No problem.

Yeah, yeah, I know, you're a liberal so the first thing that pops into your mind is race. It's what you people live for. But the truth of the matter is that it's partisanship.

One more: Liberals said that a President that never served time in a war should not be allowed to send troops anywhere. DumBama? No problem.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20803 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Don't miss my use of the word, "true" Libertarian. Then again, no one is 100% of anything. Example:Obama carries a Dem label but is clearly more Socialist. McCain is a RINO But carries a Republican label.
I know that you know this & I am only explaining myself.
I think that Ron Paul was more Libertarian than Rand.
I think I know where you are coming from. In theory, a libertarian could very well be for the right to abortion. But here's the political reality: I gave you three big names in the Libertarian world --- Ron & Rand Paul and the Libertarian party's 2008 Presidential candidate. They are all anti-choice. Now, you name three that are strongly pro-choice. Can't do it, can you?
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20804 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is wrong with protecting religious rights that are being trampled on even tho protected by the 1st amendment? WHO is wanting to control who?
I'm OK with individuals following their own religious beliefs.(With rare exception --- I can see that total face covering has public safety implications.) But what we are talking about is those that would impose their particular morality/religion on others. How do you feel about mandatory Sharia Law?
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way, I am personally against abortion when used for birth control. BUT I also don't believe that I have a right to stop someone from having an abortion. It really isn't my business. EXCEPT that my tax dollars being used for birth control abortions.
How about when the abortions are due to the health of the mother, incest, or rape?

How about we only give women the right to make laws about this, since they are the only ones that will EVER face this decision? Seems every time I see an anti-abortion activist, it's some pudgy white guy...
Pops

Newport, KY

#20805 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyMcTrucker wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no old man. You stated that Obama had tripled the deficit and I called you a liar. I stated that you got your info from a Tea Bagger emailed newsletter which you denied. I then posted the TeaBagger emailed newsletter that started the false propaganda you were repeating. You then claimed you "misspoke". Only because you were busted in one of your many lies on here.
You claim I always lie on here. Go ahead and post one lie. Yah, that's what I thought, you mouthpiece of dementia.
This one is a lie or are you mis-speaking? IF all of the flat out truth is told, Obama has nearly tripled the deficit of Bush & only Bush. You took what I said as being that Obama has tripled the entire deficit at that time.
And your 'leader' that called Bush "irresponsible" & "unpatriotic" for taking out a ..."credit card of China"... Did EXACTLY that his self. With interest that one signature alone will be a Trillion Dollars by it's self.
He also PROMISED to cut the deficit in 1/2 in his 1st term (actually he promised 3 yrs) or he shouldn't be re-elected & you Kool Ade drinkers didn't care that he lied & broke his promises. What about posting bills on the web for 3 days for comments B4 a vote?
Another LIE of yours is that you stated that I wanted to 'grope' you. LIAR! In your words, You Are Busted!!
Pops

Newport, KY

#20806 Sep 30, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm OK with individuals following their own religious beliefs.(With rare exception --- I can see that total face covering has public safety implications.) But what we are talking about is those that would impose their particular morality/religion on others. How do you feel about mandatory Sharia Law?
<quoted text>
How about when the abortions are due to the health of the mother, incest, or rape?
How about we only give women the right to make laws about this, since they are the only ones that will EVER face this decision? Seems every time I see an anti-abortion activist, it's some pudgy white guy...
I specified abortion for birth control & that's what I meant. And there are countless people that wouldn't want any exception even for health reason that would argue with me about that, I can agree to disagree.
Let me ask you this. You pose that women are the only ones that will make an abortion decision. What about the father if he is known? Isn't he part of the decision?
At this time I won't add why I asked because I want to keep the question simple.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20807 Sep 30, 2013
Sharia law does NOT have any place in our court rooms.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20808 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>This one is a lie or are you mis-speaking? IF all of the flat out truth is told, Obama has nearly tripled the deficit of Bush & only Bush.
"In George W. Bushs last fiscal year, 2009, the federal budget deficit reached $1.4 trillion, pushed upward by the great recession. The recession also affected Barack Obamas deficits, especially in the first two years.

But its most dramatic under Bush, whose deficits soared as the recession set in:$161 billion in FY 2007,$458 billion in 2008, and $1.4 trillion in 2009.

(Federal fiscal years end on Sept. 30 so presidents operate the first nine months of their terms under their predecessors budget after being inaugurated in January. Bushs first nine months were governed by Clintons final budget and Obamas first nine by Bushs. The same will be true for Obamas successor.)

Obamas deficits were never quite that high, starting at $1.29 trillion in fiscal year 2010, rising to $1.3 trillion in 2011, falling in 2012 to $1.08 trillion, and to $973 billion last year."

http://richmondregister.com/viewpoints/x70312...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20809 Sep 30, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm OK with individuals following their own religious beliefs.(With rare exception --- I can see that total face covering has public safety implications.) But what we are talking about is those that would impose their particular morality/religion on others. How do you feel about mandatory Sharia Law?
<quoted text>
How about when the abortions are due to the health of the mother, incest, or rape?
How about we only give women the right to make laws about this, since they are the only ones that will EVER face this decision? Seems every time I see an anti-abortion activist, it's some pudgy white guy...
Here is the problem I have with you and Canton:

You two make this out to be an attack on women; your claim is that we don't have the right to force our morality upon others. Yet, you praise a person that forces people to purchase healthcare insurance weather they need it or not. You have no complaints about your savior forcing his morality on us! The very same holds true with tobacco products where he stopped the American Indians from selling cigarettes via mail and single-handly closed down roll-your-own cigarette shops all across America. This joker actually forced a religious organization to provide contraceptives to their employees against their religious views.

So how do you feel about Sharia law now?
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20810 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Let me ask you this. You pose that women are the only ones that will make an abortion decision. What about the father if he is known? Isn't he part of the decision?
At this time I won't add why I asked because I want to keep the question simple.
This is one of the hardest questions, and one I have struggled with. If there becomes a way to safely transfer the pregnancy (and future responsibility) to the father, I would support the father's right. Though it might seem like science fiction, I don't think it's that far off. But, until then, it's Mom's body, and I'll let her make that decision. But make no mistake, I look forward to the day when abortion won't ever be necessary, and every child born will be both healthy and desired.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20811 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
Sharia law does NOT have any place in our court rooms.
Let's extend that to say RELIGIOUS laws in general don't have place in our society. If you want to close your business on Sunday, that's fine. But you don't get to make others close their shops on your Sabbath.

And, just because your church owns a business, you don't get to ignore laws that you don't like.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20812 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is the problem I have with you and Canton:
You two make this out to be an attack on women; your claim is that we don't have the right to force our morality upon others. Yet, you praise a person that forces people to purchase healthcare insurance weather they need it or not. You have no complaints about your savior forcing his morality on us!
I object to people using the emergency room as their primary mode of health care on my dime. Not because of religious reasons, but because of economic ones. We force people to buy liability insurance for their cars, so that we don't have to pay for damages of knuckleheads that would drive without it. We have speed limits, that probably limits your free enterprise, but keeps the highways safer for the rest of us.
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The very same holds true with tobacco products where he stopped the American Indians from selling cigarettes via mail and single-handly closed down roll-your-own cigarette shops all across America.
Oh, boo hoo! He raised the taxes on (machine)hand rolled cigarettes, to make them comparable in tax to other cigarettes. And he kept Indians from evading local taxes with cheap smokes. You think these are religious issues?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20813 Oct 1, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I specified abortion for birth control & that's what I meant. And there are countless people that wouldn't want any exception even for health reason that would argue with me about that, I can agree to disagree.
Let me ask you this. You pose that women are the only ones that will make an abortion decision. What about the father if he is known? Isn't he part of the decision?
At this time I won't add why I asked because I want to keep the question simple.
The only time taxpayers pay for an abortion is for doctor ordered medical or cases of incest or rape. Not for birth control. Why is the GOP so hell bent against contraceptive protection. I already pointed that out. If men could get pregnant, birth control would have been free decades ago. Abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block and four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavors like Sea Salt and Cool Ranch.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#20814 Oct 1, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>The only time taxpayers pay for an abortion is for doctor ordered medical or cases of incest or rape. Not for birth control. Why is the GOP so hell bent against contraceptive protection. I already pointed that out. If men could get pregnant, birth control would have been free decades ago. Abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block and four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavors like Sea Salt and Cool Ranch.
can you add 2+2, or is that also over your head?

1,000,000 abortions a year in America.

and you say no government dollars involved.

you are either drunk, or just plumb dumb, or a troll.......which is it?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20815 Oct 1, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't that work both ways? When a white man was in charge of the NSA listening to phone calls and reading e-mail, the liberals had a conniption. When DumBama does it, no problem.
When Bush went into Iraq, the liberal complaint was that we should not be attacking countries that presented no direct threat to the US. Libya? No problem. Syria? No problem. Yugoslavia? No problem.
Republicans should not be holding people in Gitmo without giving them Constitutional rights and a fair and speedy trial. When DumBama does it? No problem.
Yeah, yeah, I know, you're a liberal so the first thing that pops into your mind is race. It's what you people live for. But the truth of the matter is that it's partisanship.
One more: Liberals said that a President that never served time in a war should not be allowed to send troops anywhere. DumBama? No problem.
Obama has tried many times to shut it down but keeps getting stopped. There's lots of articles, this was the last one.

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/gop...

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