Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20811 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
Sharia law does NOT have any place in our court rooms.
Let's extend that to say RELIGIOUS laws in general don't have place in our society. If you want to close your business on Sunday, that's fine. But you don't get to make others close their shops on your Sabbath.

And, just because your church owns a business, you don't get to ignore laws that you don't like.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20812 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is the problem I have with you and Canton:
You two make this out to be an attack on women; your claim is that we don't have the right to force our morality upon others. Yet, you praise a person that forces people to purchase healthcare insurance weather they need it or not. You have no complaints about your savior forcing his morality on us!
I object to people using the emergency room as their primary mode of health care on my dime. Not because of religious reasons, but because of economic ones. We force people to buy liability insurance for their cars, so that we don't have to pay for damages of knuckleheads that would drive without it. We have speed limits, that probably limits your free enterprise, but keeps the highways safer for the rest of us.
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The very same holds true with tobacco products where he stopped the American Indians from selling cigarettes via mail and single-handly closed down roll-your-own cigarette shops all across America.
Oh, boo hoo! He raised the taxes on (machine)hand rolled cigarettes, to make them comparable in tax to other cigarettes. And he kept Indians from evading local taxes with cheap smokes. You think these are religious issues?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20813 Oct 1, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I specified abortion for birth control & that's what I meant. And there are countless people that wouldn't want any exception even for health reason that would argue with me about that, I can agree to disagree.
Let me ask you this. You pose that women are the only ones that will make an abortion decision. What about the father if he is known? Isn't he part of the decision?
At this time I won't add why I asked because I want to keep the question simple.
The only time taxpayers pay for an abortion is for doctor ordered medical or cases of incest or rape. Not for birth control. Why is the GOP so hell bent against contraceptive protection. I already pointed that out. If men could get pregnant, birth control would have been free decades ago. Abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block and four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavors like Sea Salt and Cool Ranch.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#20814 Oct 1, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>The only time taxpayers pay for an abortion is for doctor ordered medical or cases of incest or rape. Not for birth control. Why is the GOP so hell bent against contraceptive protection. I already pointed that out. If men could get pregnant, birth control would have been free decades ago. Abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block and four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavors like Sea Salt and Cool Ranch.
can you add 2+2, or is that also over your head?

1,000,000 abortions a year in America.

and you say no government dollars involved.

you are either drunk, or just plumb dumb, or a troll.......which is it?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20815 Oct 1, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't that work both ways? When a white man was in charge of the NSA listening to phone calls and reading e-mail, the liberals had a conniption. When DumBama does it, no problem.
When Bush went into Iraq, the liberal complaint was that we should not be attacking countries that presented no direct threat to the US. Libya? No problem. Syria? No problem. Yugoslavia? No problem.
Republicans should not be holding people in Gitmo without giving them Constitutional rights and a fair and speedy trial. When DumBama does it? No problem.
Yeah, yeah, I know, you're a liberal so the first thing that pops into your mind is race. It's what you people live for. But the truth of the matter is that it's partisanship.
One more: Liberals said that a President that never served time in a war should not be allowed to send troops anywhere. DumBama? No problem.
Obama has tried many times to shut it down but keeps getting stopped. There's lots of articles, this was the last one.

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/gop...
TherzYourReality

Canton, OH

#20816 Oct 1, 2013
Hey neat. Most Americans blame the GOP for the government shutdown.

Forty-six percent of respondents would blame congressional Republicans, 36 percent would blame Obama and 13 percent would blame both. Sixty-nine percent said that the GOP is acting like "spoiled children" in the budget fight, while 58 percent think that of congressional Democrats and 49 percent think that of President Barack Obama. Six in 10 respondents reject the GOP's approach and think it is more important to avoid a shutdown than to make major changes to the Affordable Care Act.
TherzYourReality

Canton, OH

#20817 Oct 1, 2013
So the facts tell us that congressional republicans are the ones who are fighting to keep GW Bush's secret torture camps open and Obama has tried many times to shut them down.

Funny how every single point you guys make get's shutdown by the facts. How every prediction you have made about where we are heading has been tinfoil hat bullsh1t wrong. No wonder Americans view the GOP as "spoiled children".
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#20818 Oct 1, 2013
TherzYourReality wrote:
Hey neat. Most Americans blame the GOP for the government shutdown.
Forty-six percent of respondents would blame congressional Republicans, 36 percent would blame Obama and 13 percent would blame both. Sixty-nine percent said that the GOP is acting like "spoiled children" in the budget fight, while 58 percent think that of congressional Democrats and 49 percent think that of President Barack Obama. Six in 10 respondents reject the GOP's approach and think it is more important to avoid a shutdown than to make major changes to the Affordable Care Act.
you can't add 2+2, and are throwing out fantasy percentages like a parrot.

The Democrats in the Senate closed the government down because they refused obamacare as their healthcare.

The Democrats in office insist the taxpayer subsidize their super cadillac programs currently in place, or they will shut down the government in strike.

In 2014 remember every single politician that voted NO on last nights bill. Print off a copy now prior to them censoring the info.

Affordable care act= biggest lie ever told, and the American people know it.

your percentages are more worthless than day old used toilet paper.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#20819 Oct 1, 2013
TherzYourReality wrote:
So the facts tell us that congressional republicans are the ones who are fighting to keep GW Bush's secret torture camps open and Obama has tried many times to shut them down.
Funny how every single point you guys make get's shutdown by the facts. How every prediction you have made about where we are heading has been tinfoil hat bullsh1t wrong. No wonder Americans view the GOP as "spoiled children".
your comedy is nowhere near as good as saturday night live.

you suck in fact.

even turning the facts 180 degrees in your attempt, you failed as always.

Ask your god Harry Reid to accept Obamacare for his healthcare plan.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20820 Oct 1, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you can't add 2+2, and are throwing out fantasy percentages like a parrot.
The Democrats in the Senate closed the government down because they refused obamacare as their healthcare.
The Democrats in office insist the taxpayer subsidize their super cadillac programs currently in place, or they will shut down the government in strike.
In 2014 remember every single politician that voted NO on last nights bill. Print off a copy now prior to them censoring the info.
Affordable care act= biggest lie ever told, and the American people know it.
your percentages are more worthless than day old used toilet paper.
YAWN!! Crickets chirping, field mice fornicating in the tall grass.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20821 Oct 1, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
can you add 2+2, or is that also over your head?
1,000,000 abortions a year in America.
and you say no government dollars involved.
you are either drunk, or just plumb dumb, or a troll.......which is it?
It seems that your entire response consists of a series of insults.

"However, in 1977 Congress passed the Hyde Amendment which put limitations on Medicaid coverage of abortion, allowing it only in the cases of rape, incest, or if the mother's life was physically endangered. Over the years, those two exceptions were eliminated. In 1979, abortions performed if a mother's life was endangered were no longer allowed, and in 1981 abortions performed due to rape and/or incest were denied.

As the Hyde Amendment must be passed by Congress annually, the pendulum of opinion over abortion coverage has swung back and forth very slightly over the years. In 1993 Congress permitted abortion coverage for victims of rape and incest, and the current version of the Hyde Amendment also permits abortion for women whose lives are endangered by their pregnancies.

The ban on federal funding for abortion affects more than low income women. Abortion is not covered for women in the military, the Peace Corps, federal prisons, and those who receive care from Indian Health Services."

http://womensissues.about.com/od/abortion/f/D...
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20822 Oct 1, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems that your entire response consists of a series of insults.
"However, in 1977 Congress passed the Hyde Amendment which put limitations on Medicaid coverage of abortion, allowing it only in the cases of rape, incest, or if the mother's life was physically endangered. Over the years, those two exceptions were eliminated. In 1979, abortions performed if a mother's life was endangered were no longer allowed, and in 1981 abortions performed due to rape and/or incest were denied.
As the Hyde Amendment must be passed by Congress annually, the pendulum of opinion over abortion coverage has swung back and forth very slightly over the years. In 1993 Congress permitted abortion coverage for victims of rape and incest, and the current version of the Hyde Amendment also permits abortion for women whose lives are endangered by their pregnancies.
The ban on federal funding for abortion affects more than low income women. Abortion is not covered for women in the military, the Peace Corps, federal prisons, and those who receive care from Indian Health Services."
http://womensissues.about.com/od/abortion/f/D...
I think you just gave fantasy rants a headache. He hates those pesky facts.
Tea Bagger Speaks

Canton, OH

#20823 Oct 1, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
your comedy is nowhere near as good as saturday night live.
you suck in fact.
even turning the facts 180 degrees in your attempt, you failed as always.
Ask your god Harry Reid to accept Obamacare for his healthcare plan.
Can't deal with the facts, little bunny foo foo? Who said anything about facts being funny? Although, the fact that you claimed you were leaving the country, and that armed rioting in the streets would happen if Romney doesn't win, is kinda funny. In a desperate, losing side, never get one right, pathetic kinda way.
Tea Bagger Speaks

Canton, OH

#20824 Oct 1, 2013
Also, pretty funny that you said I was like a parrot, shortly after I said you were acting like a parrot and copying my wording. So you in fact, parroted my comment about you being a parrot. Ahhhh ha ha ha! Nutball want a cracker?
TreasonousGOP

Canton, OH

#20825 Oct 1, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you can't add 2+2, and are throwing out fantasy percentages like a parrot.
The Democrats in the Senate closed the government down because they refused obamacare as their healthcare.
The Democrats in office insist the taxpayer subsidize their super cadillac programs currently in place, or they will shut down the government in strike.
In 2014 remember every single politician that voted NO on last nights bill. Print off a copy now prior to them censoring the info.
Affordable care act= biggest lie ever told, and the American people know it.
your percentages are more worthless than day old used toilet paper.
You are as easy to shutdown as you are stupid...

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/09/cnn-poll...

Not my percentages, little bunny foo foo. Those are America's percentages. Don't you EVER forget that you are a sniveling, conniving lot that most of America can't stand. Now cry that the media is some kind of tinfoil hat scheme. Oh and keep your word for once and get the hell out of OUR country, you traitor.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20827 Oct 1, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>The only time taxpayers pay for an abortion is for doctor ordered medical or cases of incest or rape. Not for birth control. Why is the GOP so hell bent against contraceptive protection. I already pointed that out. If men could get pregnant, birth control would have been free decades ago. Abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block and four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavors like Sea Salt and Cool Ranch.
Republicans aren't against birth control. That's just another lie by the lying liberals. What Republicans are against is forcing somebody else to pay for your birth control. Nothing is free. If I give you birth control for free, it just means somebody else is paying for it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20828 Oct 1, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Obama has tried many times to shut it down but keeps getting stopped. There's lots of articles, this was the last one.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/gop...
Many times? I guess one of those many times didn't include when he had a Democrat led Congress and Senate.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20829 Oct 1, 2013
TherzYourReality wrote:
So the facts tell us that congressional republicans are the ones who are fighting to keep GW Bush's secret torture camps open and Obama has tried many times to shut them down.
Funny how every single point you guys make get's shutdown by the facts. How every prediction you have made about where we are heading has been tinfoil hat bullsh1t wrong. No wonder Americans view the GOP as "spoiled children".
Yeah. Those facts really suck:

"The first in a series of articles examining the campaign promises Barack Obama made in 2008 and where they stand now.

It might be President Obama's biggest broken promise: closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

As a candidate, Obama vowed so many times that he would shutter the prison he called a recruitment tool for terrorists that he himself even noted how often he's promised to do so, in an interview with Steve Kroft shortly after he was elected.

In that interview in November 2008, Kroft asked Obama if he planned to "take early action" to shut down Guantanamo. Obama replied, "Yes."

"I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo, and I will follow through on that," he said.

After three and a half years as president, Obama has not done so.

Shortly after being sworn in, Obama did sign an executive order that required that the Guantanamo prison be closed within a year.

"The detention facilities at Guantánamo for individuals covered by this order shall be closed as soon as practicable, and no later than 1 year from the date of this order," read the statement he signed on Jan. 22, 2009.

At the end of that year, in December, with Guantanamo still open and running, Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize. He said in his acceptance speech: "I believe the United States of America must remain a standard bearer in the conduct of war. That is what makes us different from those whom we fight. That is a source of our strength."

"That is why I prohibited torture," he added. "That is why I ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed."

Five days later, Obama issued a memo that directed the defense secretary and the attorney general to prepare a prison in Illinois for the Guantanamo detainees.

The deadline in Obama's executive order passed, and still he hadn't shut down the prison. In March 2011, two years after he signed the order, Obama signed another executive order. This one set up a review process for detainees. The document sought to "establish, as a discretionary matter, a process to review on a periodic basis the executive branch's continued, discretionary exercise of existing detention authority in individual cases."

The White House also released a related four-sentence statement in Obama's name. It didn't mention closing Guantanamo, or even use the word Guantanamo.

Obama has run into plenty of opposition in Congress. Lawmakers passed a bill preventing federal money from being used to transfer Guantanamo prisoners to the United States. Obama signed that bill into law, even as he issued a statement that disapproved of it. The provision was part of a bigger military bill that Obama said was too important not to sign.

Republicans, in particular, say that Guantanamo must stay open to keep terrorists there.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanam...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20830 Oct 1, 2013
TherzYourReality wrote:
Hey neat. Most Americans blame the GOP for the government shutdown.
Forty-six percent of respondents would blame congressional Republicans, 36 percent would blame Obama and 13 percent would blame both. Sixty-nine percent said that the GOP is acting like "spoiled children" in the budget fight, while 58 percent think that of congressional Democrats and 49 percent think that of President Barack Obama. Six in 10 respondents reject the GOP's approach and think it is more important to avoid a shutdown than to make major changes to the Affordable Care Act.
Both parties knew it would happen this way. It's the reason DumBama wanted the shut-down in the first place and conservative talk show hosts like Michael Medved were against it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20831 Oct 1, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems that your entire response consists of a series of insults.
"However, in 1977 Congress passed the Hyde Amendment which put limitations on Medicaid coverage of abortion, allowing it only in the cases of rape, incest, or if the mother's life was physically endangered. Over the years, those two exceptions were eliminated. In 1979, abortions performed if a mother's life was endangered were no longer allowed, and in 1981 abortions performed due to rape and/or incest were denied.
As the Hyde Amendment must be passed by Congress annually, the pendulum of opinion over abortion coverage has swung back and forth very slightly over the years. In 1993 Congress permitted abortion coverage for victims of rape and incest, and the current version of the Hyde Amendment also permits abortion for women whose lives are endangered by their pregnancies.
The ban on federal funding for abortion affects more than low income women. Abortion is not covered for women in the military, the Peace Corps, federal prisons, and those who receive care from Indian Health Services."
http://womensissues.about.com/od/abortion/f/D...
Come on now. When has DumBama gave a ship about law?

Obama Administration Flouts the Law to Give Congress Taxpayer-Funded Abortion Coverage
12:48 PM, OCT 1, 2013 • BY JOHN MCCORMACK

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-adm...

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