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The funny thing is, I'm not a Liberal or a Socialist. I just can't stand an oil money moron cashing in on the sheepish Christian Right at the cost of our American soldiers. Oil and Jesus go hand and hand. That's why "I don't believe in global warming" started in the church. Don't believe me? I used to monitor Christian Right fund raising phone calls. I listened to simple, God fearing folks suddenly making bold claims about global weather patterns with no Biblical, or even logical founding. Strange how it was during the exact same time that the Koch brother oil billionaires were spending millions to refute climate change, a claim they later did a complete turn around on. I spent years on the front lines of what you follow and I can tell you, hate Obama or not, you are being deceived. I don't trust the government any more than you do. I am just wide enough to know that the current "anti-government" movement is run by Rightwing Christian Conservative Republicans, who were so ashamed for voting for Bush twice, that they changed their name to the Tea Party. Any attempt they make to point out the flaws in our current administration, is just a feeble attempt to make those who voted for Obama, seem half as gullible as those that withy Bible in hand, voted for Bush and gleefully sent our troops off to die so Halliburton could rake in billions of dollars in no bid government contracts. Usually companies will fight tooth and nail for a government contract. America paid top dollar and never put the bids on the table. I know...I know. It's all just a big coincidence that it was Dick Cheney's old company. Sure it was.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
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You're completely full of ahitt your eyes must be brown.
So you are saying that those companies didn't leave during the Bush administration? Perhaps you should look into the cold hard facts before you run your propaganda fed mouth. You are the one who should be sure to flush after every post. I slam you in the mouth with nothing but facts. You base your notions on a militia Tea Bagger emailed newsletter. I base my observations on the front row seat I had to your side's agenda. Deal with it, lil' silverspoon trooper.

"America is my church, and George Bush is my preacher." -Feeble old rightwinger right before she donated $500. Taken from an actual call I monitored and probably one of the scariest things I have ever heard in politics.
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Sh!tt*
Guess all that home schooling didn't work out so well in the spelling department. Don't worry. You can still ride on your mom and dad's trust fund coat tails. You should change your name to "UdintEarnThat". Another hand me down success story that has confused real hard work with being born.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
NSA Programs:

NSA Programs are needed to support President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members; Honoring their Oath of Office to defend every American citizen from foreign and domestic aggression.

And complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
Democrat Candidates Firm Up Obama Care:

Democrat Candidates defy USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Democrat Candidates support holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
Michelin Stockholders Invests $435 million in Indonesia Venture:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Stockholders investing money derived from stock dividends in foreign tax abated enterprise zones. That use nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers to produce their product and service. Sell their product and service to nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And Holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
BetterOffNow wrote:
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Hi Pops. Was taking care of my Grandmother for a few. Good to hear from you too. Now back to your butt whoopings...
How's your grandmother? Since my Mom just passed while I was helping take care of her in in home hospice, I extend my compassion to you & your family.
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BetterOffNow wrote:
There is a Christian Sunday school song called "The Countdown". In the song, all the little Christian kids gleefully count down to the return of Jesus and the end of the world. This "free country" never batted an eye at the thought.
Now, in this "free country", let's imagine a basement full of little Muslim kids, gleefully counting down to the end of the world. Think that would bother anyone?
Religion F'd this country and those who voted with their Bibles are to blame.
You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
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Jun 18, 2013
 
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Muslims started the Crusades
It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.

"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."

http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
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Old Guy wrote:
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It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.
"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."
http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Don't be short sighted. The Crusades were to take lands back from the Muslims which THEY had taken from predominately Christians. It doesn't matter if the word Crusades had a Jive, Swedish or Hindu origin. The Muslims were the initial agressors.
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http://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.htm...

Are you paying this tax?
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
Perhaps it was the 12 years of theological studies that makes me so clueless as to what Christians are up to. I'm sure there are no instances in history where Christians committed brutal acts based on their religion. I mean other than the hundreds of thousands of innocent men and women who were burned alive for being "witches and werewolves". We'll skip over that whole 76% of all child molesters in America claiming they are Christian thing. Hey, wanna see a video of GW Bush, the man who claimed God told him to invade Iraq calling the war a "crusade"? I forget. Other than killing Christians' number one religious rival, the Muslims, what did we accomplish from that war? Go ahead and refresh my memory. Why did our soldiers get sent off to die in Iraq? I mean besides making Halliburton billions of dollars.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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I have a better one: nobody making under 250K per year will see a new tax of any kind; none.
I think you are confusing 401K's with pension plans. BTW, how many of those companies were union anyhow?
Nope. Personally saw people lose tens of thousands of dollars in their 401K plans. Besides, the "job providers" did away with pension plans decades ago. Mention a pension plan to a young person and they will either laugh at you or seem puzzled as to what you are talking about. I'm sure the "job providers" who told you to be a good fetch boy and that worker's rights are bad were just looking out for the working man when they did away with pensions. Those companies did in fact THRIVE under unions for years and years. Then along came trickle down and read my lips, followed by mission accomplished. I don't blame you for trying to rewrite history as it paints you and yours as a bunch of corporate fetch boy traitors to your own country.
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Mmmmm how's those facts taste?
GBA-freedom

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BetterOffNow wrote:
Mmmmm how's those facts taste?
Like good old fashion rolly polly dirt and smell liberal talking points. Not a lick of it factual. Don't bring toy guns to the battle. I'm amazed you weren't eaten when young.
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Medicaid:

Medicaid is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint Governor, and Representatives of US the Government. Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage.
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Pops wrote:
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Muslims started the Crusades
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>The Crusades were to take lands back from the Muslims...
That's right. That's why it doesn't make sense to say that "Muslims started the Crusades." Here's a good article, which provides a lot of historical context:

"Spanning more than two centuries (1096-1300 CE), the Crusades were, in essence, military expeditions initiated by the Medieval papacy to wrest the Holy Lands from Moslem control. That means, if they can be traced back to a single source, it's fair to say it was the Christian Church in the West. Yet, the promotion of warfare was clearly not at the top of the Vatican's agenda prior to the eleventh century and so it's also fair to ask how such a dramatic shift in policy came to be, that popes moved from denouncing bloodshed to demanding it in the name of God.

In one respect, the answer to that question is easy: these extended military raids stemmed from changes which took place outside Europe before the age of the Crusades, principally the growth and expansion of Islam. Indeed, Christian holy wars such as these bear a striking resemblance—and, no doubt, owe at least some of their existence—to the Moslem custom of the jihad, which by then had become a very successful Islamic institution. By translating the notion of a "holy warrior" into Christian terms, a succession of Medieval popes and churchmen created the crusader, a "knight of Christ."

http://www.usu.edu/markdamen/1320Hist&Civ...
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Wth...
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#19143
Jun 19, 2013
 
It won't this time, you must be on HEROIN.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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Anybody you know that lost anything in their 401K likely pulled it because of fright. Those who stayed in recouped all their losses and then some.
You're right. That's probably why it's better to have a fixed pension, rather than a self-directed 401k, for most folks.
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Hell, at the bottom of the market when DumBama first came in, I purchased as many shares as I could.
So, you were pretty sure that the election of "DumBama" was a sign that the markets would recover? That's very prescient of you, because most conservatives were pretty certain that his election would be terrible for our recovery. But you were right, things really couldn't get much worse than they were under G.W. Bush. Do you have a fun name for him, too?

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