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<quoted text>I don't agree with some of what you have stated but I finally see logical thinking in the post.
In the 1st paragraph, the remark about what Repubs want may be right but can be argued. the rest is spot on.
As far as 'bloated' budgets....of course. Many or most family budgets are just as guilty. Difference is that the family budget for the most part, affects only that family, we all have a right to whine about how our tax dollars are spent which segues to your claim that the forefathers taxing people to death & them not liking it when it was done to them....not quite correct. What was
'done to them' was the taxation without representation for King George making or approving all final taxes & the decisions that prompted them. An example being that many taxes were structured so that certain goods had to be purchased from England as opposed to being made in the colonies because of tax structures & the list of examples could fill a book.
The colonies had limited power about the taxes but the STATES had representatives.
You are also totally correct about liquor taxes being the cause of 'moonshiners/bootleggers' & personally, I think that it has made for a great adventure in Americana. I have found the remnants of stills in the Appalacian Mtns when hiking off of trails & found the stimulation of my imagination wandering down paths of history.
And of course, EVERY 'social program' can be pared along with the military budget.
My thinking is always logical. Corporations spend millions and millions putting "puppets" in place to do their bidding. It's all for the best interests of the corporations, not the country. So what's wrong with individuals doing the same thing? Even if you look at politics at the local level, you will see people putting business first over local needs. A contractor may financially back a certain politician because he knows he will get that politician to do unnecessary building work. A law firm can do the same thing. The politician then wastes money billing unnecessary legal hours at the city's expense.

My point about history is to show it was screwed from the start. As soon as they got power, they started in on the "f@ck you, pay me" tax game. It's been downhill ever since. Some of the people were wishing King George was back in charge.

Render unto Caesar all things that are his, and watch him p@ss away your money. It's been like this since the days they tarred and feathered tax collectors in ancient Egypt. The best thing people can do is practice tax avoidance like corporations do. Try to pay as little as possible. Why stress over something that has been going on and will never stop? Whether it's $500,000 experiments on why monkeys like bananas or food stamps, our money is gone.

What really kills me is people who are not rich acting as if they are. People are one bout with cancer from needing social programs. Fighting a medical condition could easily wipe out a person's savings(I've seen it happen). What if a person has a stroke? Then what? Until I have a few million in the bank, I don't want the programs eliminated.
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Why would Republican politicians care about what people pay for wages in this country? They don't care about that because it doesn't buy them one vote. Democrat politicians on the other hand have a huge investment in illegals; most of them believe in the cradle to grave system and will vote Democrat in the future.
I think what you should do is make more friends down south like in Texas or Arizona. Tell THEM that illegals are not taking on skilled jobs such as bricklaying, carpentry, electricians, remodelers. You really think that contractors don't hire and train illegals; that these non-English speaking people can't repair a toilet or snake out a sewer line?
You are correct that taxing and spending has gotten much worse through the years, and it's people like you that are to blame. You know "vote for your self-interest?" If you surrender your dignity, then you've surrendered everything. How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country pay no income tax? How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country live either partially or entirely on the federal government? Because of people like me????
Keep voting for your own interest while I vote for the best interest for the future of our country. If more people would turn off Dancing With The Stars and start paying attention to politics, you would see how fast they stop wasting money, because the worst enemy of a politician is an educated voter.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger, on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison. Annals of Congress, 1794
Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. The only reason people can make decent wages off trades is because of unions. Do you see all the infrastructure that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century using trade workers? They didn't get paid sh@t until unions came into being because it's not skilled work. A bricklayer or carpenter dies on the job, there are dozens waiting to take his place. I'm talking engineers, developers, and accountants. You're talking monkey jobs.

I will keep voting what's best for me. If that's how the big boys do it, why shouldn't I?

And I don't hear you complaining about the U.S. locking up all these non-violent drug offenders. Why don't you rally against that government waste? The U.S. locks up more people than any other country. Who foots the bill? The tax payer. Who foots the bill when these people become unemployable because of criminal records? You do. But who gets rich off the prison industrial complex? The corporations. LOL But I never hear Republicans talking about implementing something like Portugal's decriminalization policy. Why not rally against the bloated military budget? You guys aren't against government waste. You guys are just bitter. Go fly to the Bahamas and enjoy life. Your government doesn't care about you and obviously you don't care about true government waste.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
The Senate just voted 82-15 to proceed with debate on the amnesty/immigration deform bill.  Every Democrat voted yes, laying waste to the notion that there are still moderate red state Democrats.  15 Republicans voted to stand with We the People against the La Raza foreign lobby/K Street juke box:
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Barrasso, Boozman, Crapo, Cruz, Enzi, Grassley, Inhofe, Kirk, Lee, Risch, Roberts, Scott, Sessions, Shelby, VitterMcCain, Murkowski, and Coburn were not present for the vote.  The former two would have voted for it anyway.  Coburn voted yes on the second procedural motion to proceed.
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The rest of the Republicans, led by Mitch McConnell, all voted to proceed with debate, thereby sealing the fate of the bill and ensuring that a phony cosmetic compromise is hatched to pass the bill and pressure the House.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
good ,,,,no girls in here..(-_-)zzz state of sleep, unconsciousness, inactivity, fancied security, apathy, depression,
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Jun 12, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
The Senate just voted 82-15 to proceed with debate on the amnesty/immigration deform bill.  Every Democrat voted yes, laying waste to the notion that there are still moderate red state Democrats.  15 Republicans voted to stand with We the People against the La Raza foreign lobby/K Street juke box:
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Barrasso, Boozman, Crapo, Cruz, Enzi, Grassley, Inhofe, Kirk, Lee, Risch, Roberts, Scott, Sessions, Shelby, VitterMcCain, Murkowski, and Coburn were not present for the vote.  The former two would have voted for it anyway.  Coburn voted yes on the second procedural motion to proceed.
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The rest of the Republicans, led by Mitch McConnell, all voted to proceed with debate, thereby sealing the fate of the bill and ensuring that a phony cosmetic compromise is hatched to pass the bill and pressure the House.
xxxrayted's immigration reform bill: You have until January 1, 2014 to get out of the country if you're an illegal. After that time, face a 10 year sentence in federal prison.

Problem solved. No billion dollar fences, no busses to bus them out, no more months of debate in Congress and Senate, no more additional border patrol agents or equipment.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
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Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. The only reason people can make decent wages off trades is because of unions. Do you see all the infrastructure that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century using trade workers? They didn't get paid sh@t until unions came into being because it's not skilled work. A bricklayer or carpenter dies on the job, there are dozens waiting to take his place. I'm talking engineers, developers, and accountants. You're talking monkey jobs.
I will keep voting what's best for me. If that's how the big boys do it, why shouldn't I?
And I don't hear you complaining about the U.S. locking up all these non-violent drug offenders. Why don't you rally against that government waste? The U.S. locks up more people than any other country. Who foots the bill? The tax payer. Who foots the bill when these people become unemployable because of criminal records? You do. But who gets rich off the prison industrial complex? The corporations. LOL But I never hear Republicans talking about implementing something like Portugal's decriminalization policy. Why not rally against the bloated military budget? You guys aren't against government waste. You guys are just bitter. Go fly to the Bahamas and enjoy life. Your government doesn't care about you and obviously you don't care about true government waste.
Those aren't skilled jobs, but you couldn't do any one of them. I have to laugh because I grew up with construction and even tried it out myself when I became an adult. It's not as easy as you think. Anybody in the field can point out good work and flimsy work. I bet you don't even know how to properly replace an O-ring in a toilet. I could become an engineer, developer or an accountant, but that doesn't mean I'd be a good one.

No, I don't rally my government to let all those lowlife drug users go. They would be a problem for me and just about anybody I know. Keep them all in there. I helps keep our streets clean and our children safe. It helps prevent people robbing my home while I'm at work.
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Those aren't skilled jobs, but you couldn't do any one of them. I have to laugh because I grew up with construction and even tried it out myself when I became an adult. It's not as easy as you think. Anybody in the field can point out good work and flimsy work. I bet you don't even know how to properly replace an O-ring in a toilet. I could become an engineer, developer or an accountant, but that doesn't mean I'd be a good one.
No, I don't rally my government to let all those lowlife drug users go. They would be a problem for me and just about anybody I know. Keep them all in there. I helps keep our streets clean and our children safe. It helps prevent people robbing my home while I'm at work.
Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. Things you can Google and easily do yourself. Things that benefited from unions making wages fair because most people can do those jobs. Any person who can Google can find out how to change an O-ring, but could the same person understand data structures? LOL

Trades are what convicts use to get into the job market. Same with illegals. It doesn't take much more than a heartbeat and a brain to learn a trade. But try to teach the same people discrete math or other concepts it takes to be an engineer or developer. You will have most dropping out. Best believe illegals and immigrants are getting CDLs before trying to do skilled labor.

Why do you think all these Mexicans without any education can take the trade jobs? They are extremely easy to learn and even people with below-average intelligence can do them. But they couldn't do the job of an architect.

As for your last point, take a look at Portugal's drug policy. It would definitely cut down on costs in the U.S. And what's wrong with cutting military spending? Your tax dollars pay for all the waste with the soldiers. The equipment. The pensions.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
Gasoline Prices:

Gasoline price won’t lower until President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

Deny OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) Liberty to market more stock dividends (money) quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of oil products and gasoline and every product and service Human Beings use for life.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
Ohio House Compromises Budget:

Ohio House compromising on budget is the same old defiance of USA Labor law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Supports President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

Holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest on Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Why would Republican politicians care about what people pay for wages in this country? They don't care about that because it doesn't buy them one vote.
Because it would likely bring them large campaign contributions from those companies that would like an influx of cheap foreign workers.

http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/...

"Romney's plan, unveiled this week, incldes a proposal "to raise the ceiling" on visas for holders of advanced degrees in math, science "who have job offers in those fields from U.S. companies."

"We know that foreign workers, even advanced degree holders, will accept less pay and poorer working conditions, displacing even more American workers and undercutting their wages and working conditions," Hira said."
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Jun 12, 2013
 
Old Guy wrote:
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Because it would likely bring them large campaign contributions from those companies that would like an influx of cheap foreign workers.
http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/...
"Romney's plan, unveiled this week, incldes a proposal "to raise the ceiling" on visas for holders of advanced degrees in math, science "who have job offers in those fields from U.S. companies."
"We know that foreign workers, even advanced degree holders, will accept less pay and poorer working conditions, displacing even more American workers and undercutting their wages and working conditions," Hira said."
What Romney was talking about was getting foreigners to take those jobs requiring higher education because our so-called higher education doesn't spit out graduates that can do the jobs American companies need.

I'm no Romney fan by a long shot. But I do understand what he was after because this is something the Republicans have harped about for years. Apparently, our college graduates are inept for such employment.
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Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. Things you can Google and easily do yourself. Things that benefited from unions making wages fair because most people can do those jobs. Any person who can Google can find out how to change an O-ring, but could the same person understand data structures? LOL
Trades are what convicts use to get into the job market. Same with illegals. It doesn't take much more than a heartbeat and a brain to learn a trade. But try to teach the same people discrete math or other concepts it takes to be an engineer or developer. You will have most dropping out. Best believe illegals and immigrants are getting CDLs before trying to do skilled labor.
Why do you think all these Mexicans without any education can take the trade jobs? They are extremely easy to learn and even people with below-average intelligence can do them. But they couldn't do the job of an architect.
As for your last point, take a look at Portugal's drug policy. It would definitely cut down on costs in the U.S. And what's wrong with cutting military spending? Your tax dollars pay for all the waste with the soldiers. The equipment. The pensions.
It's our military who makes us the big kid on the block. I have no problem with pensions and benefits our solders get. They deserve anything we can give them. But instead, we give everything to lowlifes who don't want to work or even try.

I would love to see you on the line trying to lay block. LOL! You couldn't last a half of a day. No, you can't learn that on the internet either. I talk to the master mechanic at the place we get our trucks serviced at. He told me that they can get certified mechanics to work, but they aren't worth a crap. He said they are trying to train mechanics for the next generation because their current mechanics will be retiring in the next 15 years. He fears for the future of his company because younger people today don't have what it takes. He's correct too. We now lease our tractors from Penski, and those clowns barely have enough skill to change the oil on trucks. Good truck mechanics are extremely hard to come by.

My nephew recently graduated with a Masters last year. He's a smart kid, but couldn't fix a hole in the wall. He wouldn't know where to start or what to do, and he admits it. Internet and all, skill is required to do many of these jobs. Trust me, I've hired many of them. Some are great at what they do and others I wouldn't give the time of day.

Your condescending post here reminds me of when I was younger and out of a job. My father was building a brick porch for one of our neighbors. So for extra money, I helped. He also hired a friend of mine because we had to dig a footer for the concrete of the porch. My friend was short, but muscle bound. In fact, he was used for an ad in a fitness magazine.

My father took of for about three hours and my friend and I dug our azzes off. He came back and asked "WTF were you two doing all that time?" At a steady pace, he fixed the mess we made, and within an hour, had a pile of dirt larger than my friend and I created in three hours.

Muy father turned towards us and said "It takes skill and education even to dig a ditch."
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Jun 13, 2013
 
Illegal Immigrants:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elect and reelect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports Illegal Immigrants that defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold compliant with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church and Illegal Immigrants evade.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
Appropriate:

It’s appropriate to hold every resident of the USA accountable to speak English and comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands in 2013.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
State Department Lacks Responsibility:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; supports Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members; Neglecting to hold State Department accountable to investigate allegations of sexual crimes and other misconduct of Diplomats.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
Nonunion Asian Population:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects and reelects Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports nonunion Asian population defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund nonunion Asian population, Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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Union labor needs to live within their means Loren.
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What Romney was talking about was getting foreigners to take those jobs requiring higher education because our so-called higher education doesn't spit out graduates that can do the jobs American companies need.
I'm no Romney fan by a long shot. But I do understand what he was after because this is something the Republicans have harped about for years. Apparently, our college graduates are inept for such employment.
There are plenty of well trained Americans. We have some of the best universities on the planet, and many travel to this country to take advantage of them. We are in a period of high unemployment, and there are many trained professionals who can't find work.

But you will be able to buy the same skills for less, if you are able to alter the laws regarding visas. It's a question of what's best for our country and citizens versus what's good for a particular company.

If you doubt that this goes on, and that Republicans are doing it, you might want to watch this. It shows John Boehner talking about passing out checks from tobacco companies on the House floor, just before an important vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (He now regrets doing that...)
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Jun 14, 2013
 

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Mmmmmmm tobacco, oil and war go hand and hand with Jesus. Land of the free? Tell it to the monopoly on god and country the religious right believe they are entitled to. Want to know what went wrong with America? Take a look at who has been driving this rig since the 50s. Here's a hint. It's not the poor and powerless...although you wouldn't know it to hear the babbling propaganda of those who wish they could rewrite history.

Now back to the brave and patriotic stand you guys take on things like higher efficiency light bulbs...

What else did the energy lobby for Jesus tell you to believe?

Perhaps if you weren't trying to stir up scandal before the man even took office, American's would give a rat's @ss when you cry wolf.

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