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xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31349 Jul 12, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You are a lot like Indy. You don't read your sources very carefully and when someone else does, you get all defensive and change the subject.
You asked a question that was already answered in a previous post: Why do i begrudge others who are dependent on the government as their employer. One more time: because more people on government dependency is a dangerous thing.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#31350 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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What employer discusses that information with their employees? Of course, if you had a job, you would realize that employers look at company income as their business and not yours.
Then how in the world do you pretend to know that he stopped paying your insurance because of the ACA? Because he said so?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31351 Jul 12, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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I guess now I see why you don't include links. This entire article is based on "a letter from one woman." I'm not impressed. But just what you'd expect from the Washington Times.
obviously your blind then and havent been able to read what has been going on with Obamacare in California and Liberals in California like I said hate Obamacare which I think is funny too which I guess explains why you dont understand Obamacare and how the ACA affects people from state to state which is different from state to state which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for since 1944.

Nonprofit Sues Blue Cross Over Obamacare Networks

Posted By Thadeus Greenson on Wed, Jul 9, 2014

A Southern California nonprofit filed a class-action lawsuit Tuesday alleging that Anthem Blue Cross misled millions of customers when rolling out its plans under the Affordable Care Act, leaving many enrollees on the hook for large out-of-pocket expenses.

According to a report in the Sacramento Bee, the suit alleges that the insurance giant published inaccurate provider networks, causing many customers to purchase plans thinking their current doctors and health care providers were classified as “in-network.” The suit also alleges Anthem failed to inform customers that many of its Covered California policies wouldn’t reimburse for care provided outside of its approved network.

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/Blogthing/ar...

Blue Shield sued in California over Obamacare choices on exchange

Some who bought health plans from Blue Shield of California have sued Blue Shield saying they were duped into believing they would have more choices in doctors and hospitals, Reuters reported.

The suit was filed last week in California state court. It is not connected to the ongoing antitrust lawsuit emanating from Alabama against numerous Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans across the country.

In the California case, San Francisco residents John Harrington and Alex Talon said Blue Shield misrepresented their plans saying the plans sold on the states exchange set up under the Affordable Care Act would cover a full provider network, Reuters reported. The class action suits says a group of buyers bought plans thinking their doctors and hospitals were covered but were not.
A Blue Shield spokesman said the company is reviewing the suit.

http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/05/blue_shield_s...
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#31352 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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You asked a question that was already answered in a previous post: Why do i begrudge others who are dependent on the government as their employer. One more time: because more people on government dependency is a dangerous thing.
Right. I know you said that. What I said is that your sources that lead you to the conclusion that more people are government dependent are questionable because they include, and you do as well by citing them, people who work for the government, on any level, as being government dependent.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31353 Jul 12, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Then how in the world do you pretend to know that he stopped paying your insurance because of the ACA? Because he said so?
Correct. He explained what a 30% increase in two years did to his budget. Multiplied by the employees we have covered in the company. But no, he didn't give me numbers and I wouldn't expect him to.

My employer trusts me out of most all of the other employees to understand these things because I have my own part-time business as well. I know how great things look on the outside by those who have no knowledge of the inside. I also know that I would be up ship creek if any of my expenses (such as water, sewer, insurance, taxes) went up that high and expected to go even much higher.

Even if my employer could have stretched it out, it could have only been for one more year if that. Most of us started around the same time and we aged with the company. Many of our full-time employees are long-term as I am.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31354 Jul 12, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Then how in the world do you pretend to know that he stopped paying your insurance because of the ACA? Because he said so?
Alot of the Employers here in Indiana eliminated their Employer Sponsered Health Insurance since it was cheaper to pay the Obamcare(ACA)penalty then to pay for Employer Sponsered Health Insurance for their employees under Obamacare(ACA) since the rates increased.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#31355 Jul 12, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>obviously your blind then and havent been able to read what has been going on with Obamacare in California and Liberals in California like I said hate Obamacare which I think is funny too which I guess explains why you dont understand Obamacare and how the ACA affects people from state to state which is different from state to state which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for since 1944.
My eyes are fine and I understand Obamacare. But I do have trouble understanding your sentences. Are you being charged extra whenever you use a period?
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
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Nonprofit Sues Blue Cross Over Obamacare Networks

http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/05/blue_shield_s...
Do you understand that this article says nothing bad about Obamacare? It's Blue Cross that is being sued for alleged misrepresentations.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#31356 Jul 12, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>obviously your blind then and havent been able to read what has been going on with Obamacare in California and Liberals in California like I said hate Obamacare which I think is funny too which I guess explains why you dont understand Obamacare and how the ACA affects people from state to state which is different from state to state which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for since 1944.
Nonprofit Sues Blue Cross Over Obamacare Networks
Posted By Thadeus Greenson on Wed, Jul 9, 2014
A Southern California nonprofit filed a class-action lawsuit Tuesday alleging that Anthem Blue Cross misled millions of customers when rolling out its plans under the Affordable Care Act, leaving many enrollees on the hook for large out-of-pocket expenses.
According to a report in the Sacramento Bee, the suit alleges that the insurance giant published inaccurate provider networks, causing many customers to purchase plans thinking their current doctors and health care providers were classified as “in-network.” The suit also alleges Anthem failed to inform customers that many of its Covered California policies wouldn’t reimburse for care provided outside of its approved network.
http://www.northcoastjournal.com/Blogthing/ar...
Blue Shield sued in California over Obamacare choices on exchange
Some who bought health plans from Blue Shield of California have sued Blue Shield saying they were duped into believing they would have more choices in doctors and hospitals, Reuters reported.
The suit was filed last week in California state court. It is not connected to the ongoing antitrust lawsuit emanating from Alabama against numerous Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans across the country.
In the California case, San Francisco residents John Harrington and Alex Talon said Blue Shield misrepresented their plans saying the plans sold on the states exchange set up under the Affordable Care Act would cover a full provider network, Reuters reported. The class action suits says a group of buyers bought plans thinking their doctors and hospitals were covered but were not.
A Blue Shield spokesman said the company is reviewing the suit.
http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/05/blue_shield_s...
Holy Functional Illiteracy.

Those people's complaint was with Blue Cross, not the ACA. Wow.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#31357 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Correct. He explained what a 30% increase in two years did to his budget. Multiplied by the employees we have covered in the company. But no, he didn't give me numbers and I wouldn't expect him to.
My employer trusts me out of most all of the other employees to understand these things because I have my own part-time business as well. I know how great things look on the outside by those who have no knowledge of the inside. I also know that I would be up ship creek if any of my expenses (such as water, sewer, insurance, taxes) went up that high and expected to go even much higher.
Even if my employer could have stretched it out, it could have only been for one more year if that. Most of us started around the same time and we aged with the company. Many of our full-time employees are long-term as I am.
Poor, poor gullible Ray. Never seen the numbers but believes everything the Boss Man tells him about why he couldn't help but screw you over. Aye carumba.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#31358 Jul 12, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Alot of the Employers here in Indiana eliminated their Employer Sponsered Health Insurance since it was cheaper to pay the Obamcare(ACA)penalty then to pay for Employer Sponsered Health Insurance for their employees under Obamacare(ACA) since the rates increased.
Of course, people covered by employer-sponsored plans has been dropping for years. And the costs have been rising. That's why we needed something like Obamacare --- because more and more folks did not have health insurance.

Here's an article from 2010, describing the situation before Obamacare:

"The percentage of Americans younger than 65 who receive health insurance through their employer has fallen below 60% not only because of high unemployment. It's also because many of those who remained on the job saw their coverage eliminated or reduced, or dropped it themselves because their plan became too expensive."

"In 2009, 58.9% of Americans younger than 65 received health coverage through their employers -- down nearly 10 percentage points since the start of the decade and down three points since the previous year, according to an Economic Policy Institute report issued Nov. 16."

"The CDC said 40 million working-age adults -- 21.1% of that population -- were without insurance in 2009, up 2.9 million in a year."

http://www.amednews.com/article/20101227/busi...

Our healthcare system is broken, and the Republicans have done nothing to fix it. Obamacare is the same plan originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation, and implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. It's not the plan I would have preferred, but at least it attempts to deal with the problem.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31359 Jul 12, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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My eyes are fine and I understand Obamacare. But I do have trouble understanding your sentences. Are you being charged extra whenever you use a period?
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Do you understand that this article says nothing bad about Obamacare? It's Blue Cross that is being sued for alleged misrepresentations.
Your eyes are not fine because the title of the article says" Nonprofit Sues Blue Cross Over Obamacare Networks" again Obamacare Networks and Blue Cross operates under the law of Obamacare now as we all know which all health insurance companies are required to do so now so you must have trouble reading sentences even from the article too or you are being selective on what you want to read.

Nonprofit Sues Blue Cross Over Obamacare Networks

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/Blogthing/ar...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#31361 Jul 12, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Of course, people covered by employer-sponsored plans has been dropping for years. And the costs have been rising. That's why we needed something like Obamacare --- because more and more folks did not have health insurance.
Here's an article from 2010, describing the situation before Obamacare:
"The percentage of Americans younger than 65 who receive health insurance through their employer has fallen below 60% not only because of high unemployment. It's also because many of those who remained on the job saw their coverage eliminated or reduced, or dropped it themselves because their plan became too expensive."
"In 2009, 58.9% of Americans younger than 65 received health coverage through their employers -- down nearly 10 percentage points since the start of the decade and down three points since the previous year, according to an Economic Policy Institute report issued Nov. 16."
"The CDC said 40 million working-age adults -- 21.1% of that population -- were without insurance in 2009, up 2.9 million in a year."
http://www.amednews.com/article/20101227/busi...
Our healthcare system is broken, and the Republicans have done nothing to fix it. Obamacare is the same plan originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation, and implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. It's not the plan I would have preferred, but at least it attempts to deal with the problem.
Your numbers are off.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p70-134.p...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#31362 Jul 12, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Holy Functional Illiteracy.
Those people's complaint was with Blue Cross, not the ACA. Wow.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, if news articles are to be believed. Do you suppose the details for those plans were on one of those properly executed exchange websites? Obamacare is a snowjob, pure and simple.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31363 Jul 12, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course, people covered by employer-sponsored plans has been dropping for years. And the costs have been rising. That's why we needed something like Obamacare --- because more and more folks did not have health insurance.
Here's an article from 2010, describing the situation before Obamacare:
"The percentage of Americans younger than 65 who receive health insurance through their employer has fallen below 60% not only because of high unemployment. It's also because many of those who remained on the job saw their coverage eliminated or reduced, or dropped it themselves because their plan became too expensive."
"In 2009, 58.9% of Americans younger than 65 received health coverage through their employers -- down nearly 10 percentage points since the start of the decade and down three points since the previous year, according to an Economic Policy Institute report issued Nov. 16."
"The CDC said 40 million working-age adults -- 21.1% of that population -- were without insurance in 2009, up 2.9 million in a year."
http://www.amednews.com/article/20101227/busi...
Our healthcare system is broken, and the Republicans have done nothing to fix it. Obamacare is the same plan originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation, and implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. It's not the plan I would have preferred, but at least it attempts to deal with the problem.
Obamacare hasnt changed anything except force people to purchase health insurance or pay a fine for not being able to afford Health Insurance is all and some states have seen their Health Insurance preminums go through the roof because of Obamacare which I agree with you the Health Care system in the US is broken which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for and your right the Republicans havent done nothing either and the last Republican to offer an Idea would have been Liberal Nixon in 1974 and the only reason Nixon plan never seen the day of light was because of Tedd Kennedy who favored a public plan over a private plan.

Nixon's Plan For Health Reform, In His Own Words

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/...

National Health Insurance Debate Under Nixon

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Report: Obamacare Subsidies Likely To Cost Billions More Than Expected

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/18/obamacare-s...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31364 Jul 12, 2014
Nickled Dimed wrote:
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Your numbers are off.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p70-134.p...
Liberal's numbers are always off which they have proven over and over again.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31365 Jul 12, 2014
Nickled Dimed wrote:
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This is just the tip of the iceberg, if news articles are to be believed. Do you suppose the details for those plans were on one of those properly executed exchange websites? Obamacare is a snowjob, pure and simple.
Exactly
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#31366 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Quite simple, because they were lying about what he said. From your link:
***UPDATED BELOW***
"If Democrats didn't have all the incentive they needed to pass health care reform already, then conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh may have provided the final push they needed by vowing to flee the country if the reform bill is passed."
Fleeing the country does not mean leaving it to get medical care. Fleeing the country means moving out of it.
Anytime these lib rag pieces post something about Limbaugh, you always have to be suspicious because they take things out of context to try and make him look bad. Rush says things in sarcasm and plays devils advocate just to make the show a little more interesting. I've heard him say things like he's voting for Hillary and things like that.
If you want to know what Rush really said and more importantly, what he really meant, then you have to listen to the entire show or at the very least, the entire segment.
Wow, really now. You can't Febreeze bulls**t.
Willow

Fairfax, VA

#31367 Jul 12, 2014
No one
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#31368 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Trucks pay the most road taxes. We pay outrageous taxes as the fuel pumps and are also taxed by how many axles the truck has because the more axles, the more weight you are allowed to carry.
I'm a local driver and I used about 200 gallons of diesel fuel this past week. How much gasoline did you go through?
You don't drive a truck. Those medical conditions won't allow it.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#31369 Jul 12, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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The D.E.F pressure sensor. Keeps setting off the engine light. I could ignore it, but these trucks will shut down if you ignore the light too long. You have to go back to the dealer and get the code erased.
That's called the low fuel light, that you can fill up at any gas station.

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