“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24581 Jan 26, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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OK, I'll try once more to explain this to you. "Democracy" is a broad term, which includes both pure democracies and representative democracies. You are confusing the broader term "democracy" with the more specific "pure democracy." The USA is not a "pure democracy", but it is a "representative democracy." That's why the dictionary definitions for "democracy" are correct, and why all those Presidents I quoted refer to the US as a democracy.
"Direct democracy, sometimes called "pure democracy," is a form of democracy in which the people themselves, rather than elected representatives, determine the laws and policies by which they are governed.
Direct democracy is the opposite of the more common "representative democracy," under which the people elect representatives empowered to create laws and policies. Ideally, the laws and policies enacted by the elected representatives in a representative democracy reflect the will of the people.
While the United States practices representative democracy, as embodied in the U.S. Congress and the state legislatures, three forms of limited direct democracy are practiced at the state and local level: ballot initiatives and referendums, and recall of elected officials."
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsys...
From the start of our conversation, I have taken the time to read all of the links you have posted. Clearly there has been no reciprocity by you.
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsde...
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.h...

I understand exactly what your point is,
Yet again I will repeat, you responded to a reply by me to another poster who stated that the US was a Democracy.
For some reason you feel that I must accept your definition of the single word Democracy and the unmentioned caveats by the original poster that have been added by you.

here is the link
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TSQIM5LRS...
and here is the comment
"LOL! Exactly, because it's a democracy, we decide those things by vote...:)"

Possibly you should be explaining to him what he is allowed to vote for in a representative republic..........and why don't we just agree to disagree?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24582 Jan 26, 2014
seriously wrote:
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Are you even capable of coherent thought?
OK FEMA death camp. It wasn't my side that declared Putin a "Conservative Hero". This of course after months of listening to Tea Baggers call hard working, tax paying and proud Americans "a bunch of commies". Are you even capable of anything other than inbred, gun show conspiracies? Funny, Super Mutt get's so quiet when you are talking.
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24584 Jan 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
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OK FEMA death camp. It wasn't my side that declared Putin a "Conservative Hero". This of course after months of listening to Tea Baggers call hard working, tax paying and proud Americans "a bunch of commies". Are you even capable of anything other than inbred, gun show conspiracies? Funny, Super Mutt get's so quiet when you are talking.
I suspect that your past dealings with Super Mutt has your panties in a bunch, but why all the insults and personal attacks? Do you expect to be taken seriously or are you just here to try and make waves?
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24585 Jan 26, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
For some reason you feel that I must accept your definition of the single word Democracy and the unmentioned caveats by the original poster that have been added by you.
Reading through here, it seems to me these democrats would just feel better if we were a democracy rather than a republic due to the implications thereof.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24586 Jan 26, 2014
Look up "no one's paid for obamacare" on Google and you'll see a LOOONG list of far-right sites (only) crying that "no one KNOWS how many have signed up, no one's paid for their healthcare, there's a payment deadline, you're being lied to by Dems," and other insane Rightie gibberish.

I swear, just when you think the far Right can't get any more stupid, they put an ice-cream cone in their eye and fall over.

ROTFLMAO
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#24587 Jan 26, 2014
seriously wrote:
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Reading through here, it seems to me these democrats would just feel better if we were a democracy rather than a republic due to the implications thereof.
A Republic IS a form of democratic government, you Rightie dimwit. Get a clue.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24588 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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That is correct, it is. The outrage will return at the end of this year and 2016 I can promise you. How do I know? I read the polls where Hussein is sinking lower and lower.
Of course I have an entire folder with links of the millions that have been damaged by this socialist experiment, but I know you wouldn't be able to challenge them and just say they are all either right-wing outlets or lies. So what's the point?
But since you live so close to Cleveland, I'm sure you're quite aware of the 3,000 layoffs at the world famous Cleveland Clinic because of Commie Care stated so by the left-wing CEO of that establishment.
But hey! If you are interested in my multiple links, just ask, I'll be happy to provide.
Sure, I would love to see a link that backs up your numbers that isn't from a known rightwing propaganda site. Post away.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24589 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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That is correct, it is. The outrage will return at the end of this year and 2016 I can promise you. How do I know? I read the polls where Hussein is sinking lower and lower.
Of course I have an entire folder with links of the millions that have been damaged by this socialist experiment, but I know you wouldn't be able to challenge them and just say they are all either right-wing outlets or lies. So what's the point?
But since you live so close to Cleveland, I'm sure you're quite aware of the 3,000 layoffs at the world famous Cleveland Clinic because of Commie Care stated so by the left-wing CEO of that establishment.
But hey! If you are interested in my multiple links, just ask, I'll be happy to provide.
You mean you are saying Obama won't dare run again in 2016? Aaaaah ha ha ha ha! So brazen of you.
Pops

Newport, KY

#24590 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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That is correct, it is. The outrage will return at the end of this year and 2016 I can promise you. How do I know? I read the polls where Hussein is sinking lower and lower.
Do you know what the scary thoughts are? The lazy, insecure, uninspired, no ethics people get to vote too.
That means that the 'free ride on the backs of others' still comes into play
serious

Chillicothe, OH

#24591 Jan 26, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
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A Republic IS a form of democratic government, you Rightie dimwit. Get a clue.
You and Canton have similar tactics. You both prefer personal attacks over making strong debate./click

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24592 Jan 26, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
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A Republic IS a form of democratic government, you Rightie dimwit. Get a clue.
Hmmmm

Who is talking about a Democratic "form" of government? LOL

How did you vote on the affordable care act?

Oh that's right, you didn't get to vote.

That's the difference between a Representative Republic and a Democracy.

Simple huh

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24593 Jan 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
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You mean you are saying Obama won't dare run again in 2016? Aaaaah ha ha ha ha! So brazen of you.
How clever, a Non Sequitur.

How Alinsky of you......well played.....
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24598 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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This is true, but the one thing that "they" don't consider is that the lazy get so lazy, they don't take the time to vote. This is the entitlement mentality. After a while, they assume that what they get from others is just the way it's going to be for the rest of their lives. Nobody would dare take it away from them.
I sure hope you're right, because I keep thinking we've crossed that tipping point, the point of no return. When the majority of voters are collecting a government check (welfare check or paycheck) every week, we are in trouble.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24599 Jan 26, 2014
serious wrote:
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You and Canton have similar tactics. You both prefer personal attacks over making strong debate./click
It's what happens when someone who doesn't believe in science gets no respect. Do you honestly think that people who believe in talking snakes and secret commie plots have anything of relevance to say to anyone outside of Tea Bag land. You know, that choked up little Fox News, Rush, Glenn Beck bubble that gets smaller every day? Hell, even the Pope thinks you guys are douchebags. Wonder if he's as popular as the last Pope?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24600 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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People of this nation hold the president (or his party) responsible for everything that goes on in this country. While the Democrats were so delighted that they were the party that ushered in the first so-called black President, they will regret the backlash.
There is a lot of buyers remorse out there, and complaining about it now is fruitless. Their anger will come out during the elections. This is not to mention the already damaged front runner for the Democrats Hilarious Clinton.
Yah..yah..yah...Glenn Beck tears, liberty...all that. Still waiting on that link to back up your numbers on Obamacare.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24601 Jan 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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That is correct, it is. The outrage will return at the end of this year and 2016 I can promise you. How do I know? I read the polls where Hussein is sinking lower and lower.
Of course I have an entire folder with links of the millions that have been damaged by this socialist experiment, but I know you wouldn't be able to challenge them and just say they are all either right-wing outlets or lies. So what's the point?
But since you live so close to Cleveland, I'm sure you're quite aware of the 3,000 layoffs at the world famous Cleveland Clinic because of Commie Care stated so by the left-wing CEO of that establishment.
But hey! If you are interested in my multiple links, just ask, I'll be happy to provide.
Do you mean this Cleveland Clinic?

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/25/fox-b...

Let's see a few of those "millions" of links. Oh you rightwingers with your made up numbers.
Anonymous

Columbus, OH

#24602 Jan 26, 2014
Obama. Worst. President. Ever. Yep, YOU SUCK.
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24604 Jan 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
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It's what happens when someone who doesn't believe in science gets no respect. Do you honestly think that people who believe in talking snakes and secret commie plots have anything of relevance to say to anyone outside of Tea Bag land. You know, that choked up little Fox News, Rush, Glenn Beck bubble that gets smaller every day? Hell, even the Pope thinks you guys are douchebags. Wonder if he's as popular as the last Pope?
I don't even have a clue what you are babbling about. Do you do this in a room by yourself, or does your family know?

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24605 Jan 26, 2014
Pops wrote:
One societal problem out there is that too many voters & so called representatives seem to forget that once elected, that person is supposed to represent EVERYONE that makes up their constituency.
There's a reason they campaign on the issues that are important to their constituents. We vote for the ones who represent our values and goals for the country. If they go to Washington and do something different, then the citizens who voted for them, may as well have voted for the other party.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about major issues here, like the healthcare law, abortion, etc. There are other, less-important decisions where compromise should be reached in the everyday course of events.

It never hurts to be reminded about the reason why the founders chose to separate the branches of govt. Even the legislative branch is divided in two, both having equal power. And within them are hundreds of seats filled with representatives from different sides. That's because the founders wanted each branch to keep the others in check, and even the minority party in each house of the legislature to keep the majority in check, if they have the votes. If only the Senate matters, just because the executive branch is democrat, then why have the House at all?

So, I don't buy into this lie that "we won the election, so you should go along with what we say". They didn't win the election in the House. They lost it. And the House has as much power as the Senate. So, the republican reps need to stop letting the dems bully them into submission, and do their #%@$ jobs.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24606 Jan 26, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Something amazing about this list of quotes is that it has presidents of both major parties & it is reasonable to count Reagan in each party at one time or another.
Yeah, it's easy now to forget the young Ronnie --- movie actor, democrat, and union activist! That's the version I first remember. As it turned out, he had a wonderful gift for politics, too...

Sorry to hear about your arthritis, but I appreciate your pithy comments!

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