Daytonian

Sunbury, OH

#22690 Dec 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Pops, I don't have dental coverage at work either. I buy my own dental insurance and I have terrible teeth. The good plan is a little over $300.00 per year and they have a smaller plan with a higher deductible. If interested, the company is Delta Insurance. If you have bad teeth, it's worth it because you are going to pay for it anyhow in dentist bills. Dentists are an arm and a leg today.
That's the truth and I had Delta insurance once and it was very good.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22691 Dec 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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No, what I'm angry about is the freedoms we are losing. Never in our history has an administration forced American people to purchase anything. They may have taxed and may have regulated, but nobody ever tried to have the government confiscate one-sixth of our economy.
What I'm also angry about is what Commie Care really is about: taking from the responsible and giving to the irresponsible. Earlier this year my employer already gave me a heads up that he's barely able to supply us with the crummy healthcare plan we have. Commie Care just may push him over the edge so that I will have no healthcare coverage so a french fry maker at McDonalds can.
We lost way more freedoms under Bush's Patriot Act. I seem to remember your camp getting real chummy with those lost freedoms. Still, such a noble battle to stand up to the monster who wanted affordable health care for poor people.

By the way. Just so you Conservatives can keep a leg up in the game, the next noble battle you guys will be told to mindlessly fight will be to keep trans-fats in our foods.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22692 Dec 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
No, what I'm angry about is the freedoms we are losing. Never in our history has an administration forced American people to purchase anything. They may have taxed and may have regulated, but nobody ever tried to have the government confiscate one-sixth of our economy.
What I'm also angry about is what Commie Care really is about: taking from the responsible and giving to the irresponsible. Earlier this year my employer already gave me a heads up that he's barely able to supply us with the crummy healthcare plan we have. Commie Care just may push him over the edge so that I will have no healthcare coverage so a french fry maker at McDonalds can.
It would be very interesting to see how your "job creator", the one claiming he can't afford to get you good health insurance, is living right now.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#22693 Dec 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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And no Republican ever proposed Commie Care the Republican version. No Republican ever sponsored a bill anything like it.
Are you going to admit that you were totally wrong when you said this? It's very hard to take you seriously when you never admit your errors.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22694 Dec 7, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
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Are you going to admit that you were totally wrong when you said this? It's very hard to take you seriously when you never admit your errors.
Was I wrong? I suppose partly. As I stated, taking over healthcare was not a Republican initiative, only a response to those that really wanted to take over healthcare. True..... a bill was proposed, but it seems not taken seriously by anybody. Guess that's why I never heard of it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22695 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
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It would be very interesting to see how your "job creator", the one claiming he can't afford to get you good health insurance, is living right now.
And who might that be?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22696 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
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We lost way more freedoms under Bush's Patriot Act. I seem to remember your camp getting real chummy with those lost freedoms. Still, such a noble battle to stand up to the monster who wanted affordable health care for poor people.
By the way. Just so you Conservatives can keep a leg up in the game, the next noble battle you guys will be told to mindlessly fight will be to keep trans-fats in our foods.
Yes, that would be a shame. To think, people might be responsible for making their own decisions regarding their own life and health. We can't have any of that. People are too stupid for such major decisions in their life. That's why we have a federal government; to make the decisions we are not capable of making ourselves.

It really makes you wonder though, how humans were able to survive without a federal government there to wipe your azz the first day you were born and throw the first shovel of sand on your grave when you die. Thank God (excuse the insult) for our federal government. Where would we be today without them?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22697 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
We lost way more freedoms under Bush's Patriot Act. I seem to remember your camp getting real chummy with those lost freedoms. Still, such a noble battle to stand up to the monster who wanted affordable health care for poor people.
By the way. Just so you Conservatives can keep a leg up in the game, the next noble battle you guys will be told to mindlessly fight will be to keep trans-fats in our foods.
I forgot to address this: "We lost way more freedoms under Bush's Patriot act that the UCA." Hmm, let's examine that:

Did the Patriot Act cause businesses and hiring to stagnate?
Did the Patriot Act cause millions to lose something they had and were happy with?
Did the Patriot Act affect you in some direct way? How about any of your family, friends, neighbors?
Was I affected by the Patriot Act the way I might be with the Unaffordable Care Act?
We lost our freedom of health care providers, doctors, possibly health facilities. What did we lose with the Patriot Act?
Did GW ever threaten you or your employer with a fine if you didn't participate in the Patriot Act?
Was the Patriot Act ever responsible for the reduction of income because employers had to move full-time workers to part-time?
Did the Patriot Act ever cause a couple to contemplate marriage because it was financially better to stay single?
Did the Patriot Act ever stop a business from expanding their staff to over 50 people?

It seems to me that the only thing the Patriot Act effected was your imagination and nothing more. Wish that were true of Commie Care.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22698 Dec 7, 2013
Republican 101 wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody's forcing anything here.
If you don't paying taxes and following laws, quit yer job, quit yer b!tchin, and LEAVE the country. lol
See, you still have lots of freedom, you're just too lazy to exercise it anymore.
You whiny control freak corporate cheerleaders really are a sad, washed up, completely irrelevant bunch...
ROFLMAO
You support a politician that is supported by the US Communist party that also wants to control everybody's healthcare, and call me a control freak??? Apparently the mirrors in your home must be broken.
Pops

Newport, KY

#22699 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Also, how could you guys so easily skip over something as serious as how you portrayed Benghazi for something so trivial as the health care reform act Mitt Romney implemented in his state? It's almost as if...
I got the rest of this post I'm not sure of your point on this part. would you elaborate? thanx
Pops

Newport, KY

#22700 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Well, if you want to use that "logic", every inmate housed in prison right now is a "job creator" also. They make sure everyone working in the corrections facility has a job. An arsonist is a "job creator" also, as are drug dealers and drive by shooters.
Interesting point & not a bad one.Difference is that criminals 1st TOOK something of GOOD VALUE from society B4 going to prison. Especially since the payrolls created by the imprisoned are sourced by taxes. So it isn't their 'positive' efforts but 'negative actions' that finance those paychecks. Sort of an Apple/Pineapple comparison.
Pops

Newport, KY

#22701 Dec 7, 2013
Canton wrote:
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So all of those other "scandals" leading up to now, that were PROVEN to be lies and propaganda was all just misplaced rage and what you really meant to be so angry over is people losing health care coverage...right? Sure it is.
I remember that you were asked B4 to list what scandals were proven to be lies. I don't remember an answer. Did you have one?
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#22702 Dec 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Was I wrong?
Yep. When you said "No Republican ever sponsored a bill anything like it", that was dead wrong. And I pointed out the very bill that the majority of Republicans supported, back in the day. Even now, you dismiss it as some kind of insincere reaction, but again, that's just your opinion. I think the Republicans were sincerely for the individual mandate (before they were against it.)
Daytonian

Sunbury, OH

#22703 Dec 7, 2013
Republican 101 wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody's forcing anything here.
If you don't paying taxes and following laws, quit yer job, quit yer b!tchin, and LEAVE the country. lol
See, you still have lots of freedom, you're just too lazy to exercise it anymore.
You whiny control freak corporate cheerleaders really are a sad, washed up, completely irrelevant bunch...
ROFLMAO
Sounds like a plan but I would be curious to know what country one would move to to avoid those things.
Republican 101

Van Wert, OH

#22704 Dec 7, 2013
Daytonian wrote:
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Sounds like a plan but I would be curious to know what country one would move to to avoid those things.
I hear Costa Rica's nice this time of year... See ya there, pal!
ROFLMAO
Daytonian

Sunbury, OH

#22705 Dec 7, 2013
Republican 101 wrote:
<quoted text>I hear Costa Rica's nice this time of year... See ya there, pal!

ROFLMAO
That was funny!!!!!! Back at cha' with the ROFLMAO
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22706 Dec 8, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
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Yep. When you said "No Republican ever sponsored a bill anything like it", that was dead wrong. And I pointed out the very bill that the majority of Republicans supported, back in the day. Even now, you dismiss it as some kind of insincere reaction, but again, that's just your opinion. I think the Republicans were sincerely for the individual mandate (before they were against it.)
Yes, and I said I was somewhat wrong because you were correct, somebody did sponsor a bill. But if you were honest with yourself, you know that no Republican would have addressed the issue if not for HillaryCare.

Much like DumBama in his first years as President, Bush too had an all Republican crew to work with. No proposals to do anything with healthcare. It wasn't an issue then and it wasn't an issue when DumBama took over because those without healthcare insurance were a small percentage of our population.

Your President decided that the way to solve this problem of 15% of our population being uninsured is to ruin it for the other 85%. It's clear that this has nothing to do with everybody being insured and everything to do with making more people dependent on government. DumBama and the lying Democrats knew that millions would lose their healthcare plan back in 2010. In spite of those lies, he still has a good percentage of people that support him. His disapproval rating should be in the 80% bracket.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22707 Dec 8, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yes, and I said I was somewhat wrong because you were correct, somebody did sponsor a bill. But if you were honest with yourself, you know that no Republican would have addressed the issue if not for HillaryCare.
Much like DumBama in his first years as President, Bush too had an all Republican crew to work with. No proposals to do anything with healthcare. It wasn't an issue then and it wasn't an issue when DumBama took over because those without healthcare insurance were a small percentage of our population.
Your President decided that the way to solve this problem of 15% of our population being uninsured is to ruin it for the other 85%. It's clear that this has nothing to do with everybody being insured and everything to do with making more people dependent on government. DumBama and the lying Democrats knew that millions would lose their healthcare plan back in 2010. In spite of those lies, he still has a good percentage of people that support him. His disapproval rating should be in the 80% bracket.
As pointed out to you're small bigoted, hateful brain their were 721 amendments filed from the GOTP, 161 are in the bill. As for your crying about the canceled policies, it's also been shown that most of those policies had less value than a roll of toilet paper causing people having to file bankruptcy because they thought they were covered. The facts are out there, they just don't come from the idiot pundits that you worship. Stupid is as stupid does.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#22708 Dec 8, 2013
Republican 101 wrote:
<quoted text>I hear Costa Rica's nice this time of year... See ya there, pal!
ROFLMAO
Costa Rica is nice this time of year, and the fishing is best in the world.

My time in January will be in majority spent in Costa Rica. Fishing, vacationing, and seeking property as future investment or to build on.

Costa Rica has the Gulf of Mexico to the East, and Pacific to the West, with jungle in-between.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#22709 Dec 8, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>As pointed out to you're small bigoted, hateful brain their were 721 amendments filed from the GOTP, 161 are in the bill. As for your crying about the canceled policies, it's also been shown that most of those policies had less value than a roll of toilet paper causing people having to file bankruptcy because they thought they were covered. The facts are out there, they just don't come from the idiot pundits that you worship. Stupid is as stupid does.
and medicaid sign ups are 10 times the paying customer sign ups on Obamacare.

Crazy thinking is 10% of the population is going to actually be paying the bill for this.

They will just move away.

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