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no more taxes

Tipp City, OH

#41 Dec 16, 2008
teachers cannot realistically make a comparison between STRS (State Teachers Retirement System) and Social Security. It's not just teachers but all government workers which make up about 15% of the work force. They are contributing to their own personal retirement while we as "private citizens" pay into social security to finance the current retirees. The end result is we get to pay for the teachers retirement thru property taxes and current retirees thru payroll taxes. In the meantime we will not see any money from Soc Sec as it is going bankrupt. How do we fix the problem? Make all government employees contribute to social security just like the rest of us. Teachers can retire at 80% of the average of their top 3 years salaries after 30 years of service. I get to "retire" with about 20% of my average salary after 45 years of service. Alot of talk about teachers contributing to their health care - i'd like to know how much they pay towards their health care, what kind of deductible their policy requires, how much their co-pays are, etc.
LOVE BORO SCHOOLS

Maineville, OH

#42 Apr 23, 2009
Choices wrote:
ALL TEACHERS NEW WHAT THE SALARIES RANGES WERE WHEN THEY DECIDED TO GET INTO THE PROFESSION. Get off of it already. Teachers are willing to walk off the job to make sure they get raises (Lakota school dist.) That makes me sick.....They got in it for the right reasons huh. Cops and Firefights in most ciites who work around the clock, even on Christmas day, dont make as much as a teacher. That is sad. Teachers are in it for themselves and most of them got into it for the time off. Teachers want the parents to educate their children and blame parents for any short comings in that dept. Get into the profession for the right reasons. You get 3 months off in every year to find another job while you still draw a pay check. IT WAS YOUR CHOICE TO EDUCATE CHILDREN----NOT TO GET RICH OR COMPARE YOURSELF TO THE BUSINESS SECTOR. IF YOU ARE, THEN YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE!!!!!
Until you can spell correctly - I wouldn't complain about the teachers. Maybe you need to go back to school. In case you don't know what your mistake was - it's KNEW - not NEW!!!!!
School Nazi

Miamisburg, OH

#43 Apr 23, 2009
LOVE BORO SCHOOLS wrote:
<quoted text>Until you can spell correctly - I wouldn't complain about the teachers. Maybe you need to go back to school. In case you don't know what your mistake was - it's KNEW - not NEW!!!!!
You are complaining about one letter missing? Get off it - the point is still very valid with or without a typo. Trying to minimize the main point by misdirecting attention to something else is what the Springboro School Nazis count on for their levy tactics too. Vote NO, again.
21st Century

Englewood, OH

#44 Apr 30, 2009
If I get laid-off which is highly likely, I've already decided to home school my children.

We as a society would do well for our children to dismantle the public school system as it exists today and home school with the help of a 21st century national distance learning program free from local influence.

Get back to basics and the family and stop expecting the government to teach our children.

Then the current contract union "teachers" can perfect their diction and enunciation on the sentence "Would you like fries with that?" instead of asking for more salaries and benefits from the taxpayers.
Benefits Police

Englewood, OH

#45 Apr 30, 2009
no more taxes wrote:
teachers cannot realistically make a comparison between STRS (State Teachers Retirement System) and Social Security. It's not just teachers but all government workers which make up about 15% of the work force. They are contributing to their own personal retirement while we as "private citizens" pay into social security to finance the current retirees. The end result is we get to pay for the teachers retirement thru property taxes and current retirees thru payroll taxes. In the meantime we will not see any money from Soc Sec as it is going bankrupt. How do we fix the problem? Make all government employees contribute to social security just like the rest of us. Teachers can retire at 80% of the average of their top 3 years salaries after 30 years of service. I get to "retire" with about 20% of my average salary after 45 years of service. Alot of talk about teachers contributing to their health care - i'd like to know how much they pay towards their health care, what kind of deductible their policy requires, how much their co-pays are, etc.
Let's not forget that even teachers, in their time off from teaching, can get a "real job", pay into Social Security for 40 creditable quarters--and receive full SS benefits ON TOP OF ALL OF THEIR OTHER RETIREMENT INCOME.
Bernie

Cincinnati, OH

#46 Apr 30, 2009
Benefits Police wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's not forget that even teachers, in their time off from teaching, can get a "real job", pay into Social Security for 40 creditable quarters--and receive full SS benefits ON TOP OF ALL OF THEIR OTHER RETIREMENT INCOME.
WHat?
Benefits Police

Englewood, OH

#47 Apr 30, 2009
Bernie,
What don't you understand? Any American who works 40 creditable quarters and pays Social Security tax can receive Social Security benefits.

It doesn't matter that they have retirement income from the teachers union, the railroad union, their own 401K, or The Man In The Moon. 40 quarters of creditable wages earned will get an American a Social Security Retirement ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

You think the teachers don't know this????

Since: May 09

United States

#48 May 23, 2009
In Wrong Profession wrote:
http://www.rollbackthetax.org/ pdfs/Springboro_200610_salaray _data.pdf
Add to this 2006 salary information from the Ohio Department of Education, 4.5% increases in each of the last two years.
New teachers making $50,000 per year??? Principals making $92,000 per year???? UNBELIEVABLE.
The education union is alive and well in Springboro. Hit the taxpayers with another tax levy to fund this.
I am not sure what your source is, but $50,000 is not a beginning teacher's salary unless they have teaching experience elsewhere. I was hired as a teacher in Springboro Schools with 17 years of experience, and I started on Springboro's pay scale as 0 years experience w/my master's degree. Do your homework please!

Since: May 09

United States

#49 May 23, 2009
It would be great if the residents of Springboro & Clearcreek Township took some pride in their community. I have lived outside of Ohio and outside of Springboro. I cannot believe the lack of community here. When we moved here, we looked for a community pool and found none. We couldn't believe there was basically no park & recreation dept. We then had the rude awakening of finding out the lack of community support for the schools.
Overwhelmed is an understatement. We chose Springboro because of their excellent schools & small town feel. Little did we know that there was little sense of community, and that the future of our young people was of no concern to the residents. Those of us who are optimists still see great things in Springboro.
Clearcreek Mom

Englewood, OH

#51 May 25, 2009
I totally agree with the previous post. Springboro is a GREAT place and has SO much potential! I do wish we could get rid of the snark and really support one another; we have so much to be proud of.

Reading all these comments about teachers, I wondered if I was living in the same Springboro. We moved here 3 years ago with school-age kids and have been quite pleased with their teachers and school staff. There have been a few exceptions, but aren't there always?

We moved from Lakota. We were happy with the schools there as well--actually, Lakota had just experienced a similar levy issue before we moved, cutting busing and criticizing the superintendent and school board. Lakota, being an absolutely HUGE district, had many of the same problems.

One thing Lakota did better, though, was getting parents involved in the schools. This was my main gripe with the schools when we moved there. As a "work at home" mom, I had time to volunteer now and then, but was told basically that nobody did that. They behave as if parents aren't welcome in the buildings. I realize that distractions and security are concerns, but getting parents into the schools is so good for the kids! For one thing, it means teachers and other staff are a bit more accountable - parents know what's going on in the kids' classrooms. For another thing, things get DONE! We had some wonderful programs for the younger students (such as a book-publishing program) run entirely by parents.

I know we have PTO's, but in the past 3 years I've not been able to see what exactly they do. I suppose all the parents are just too busy working so they can afford their overpriced subdivision tract homes, Coach purses and SUV's?

OK, ok...I said cut the snark and there I am doing it.:) But hey, that's my suggestion. We need to stop criticizing our schools and DO something to improve them.
Resident of 23 years

Springfield, OH

#52 May 26, 2009
Clearcreek Mom wrote:
One thing Lakota did better, though, was getting parents involved in the schools. This was my main gripe with the schools when we moved there. As a "work at home" mom, I had time to volunteer now and then, but was told basically that nobody did that. They behave as if parents aren't welcome in the buildings. I realize that distractions and security are concerns, but getting parents into the schools is so good for the kids! For one thing, it means teachers and other staff are a bit more accountable - parents know what's going on in the kids' classrooms. For another thing, things get DONE! We had some wonderful programs for the younger students (such as a book-publishing program) run entirely by parents.
This is distressing to read. When our sons were young and I was a work at home mom I volunteered weekly in each of their classes, trading babysitting since younger siblings can't be in the buildings due to liability concerns. The parent volunteers published books, tutored, helped with crafts, organization, etc., as our talents and the teachers' needs dictated.

If parents are no longer welcome, then that tells me there is something to hide, which is of great concern.That is another change for the worse that has happened over the years. Do I know this district any more? It is not the place I'd willingly send my kids anymore.
Enough

Maineville, OH

#53 May 26, 2009
Resident of 23 years wrote:
<quoted text>
This is distressing to read. When our sons were young and I was a work at home mom I volunteered weekly in each of their classes, trading babysitting since younger siblings can't be in the buildings due to liability concerns. The parent volunteers published books, tutored, helped with crafts, organization, etc., as our talents and the teachers' needs dictated.
If parents are no longer welcome, then that tells me there is something to hide, which is of great concern.That is another change for the worse that has happened over the years. Do I know this district any more? It is not the place I'd willingly send my kids anymore.
I think if you reread Clearcreek Mom's post you will see that she was refering to Lakota Schools and not Springboro. Please correct me if I am wrong but that was the way I read it.
High School Mom

Englewood, OH

#54 May 26, 2009
Clearcreek Mom wrote:
I totally agree with the previous post. Springboro is a GREAT place and has SO much potential! I do wish we could get rid of the snark and really support one another; we have so much to be proud of.
Reading all these comments about teachers, I wondered if I was living in the same Springboro. We moved here 3 years ago with school-age kids and have been quite pleased with their teachers and school staff. There have been a few exceptions, but aren't there always?
We moved from Lakota. We were happy with the schools there as well--actually, Lakota had just experienced a similar levy issue before we moved, cutting busing and criticizing the superintendent and school board. Lakota, being an absolutely HUGE district, had many of the same problems.
One thing Lakota did better, though, was getting parents involved in the schools. This was my main gripe with the schools when we moved there. As a "work at home" mom, I had time to volunteer now and then, but was told basically that nobody did that. They behave as if parents aren't welcome in the buildings. I realize that distractions and security are concerns, but getting parents into the schools is so good for the kids! For one thing, it means teachers and other staff are a bit more accountable - parents know what's going on in the kids' classrooms. For another thing, things get DONE! We had some wonderful programs for the younger students (such as a book-publishing program) run entirely by parents.
I know we have PTO's, but in the past 3 years I've not been able to see what exactly they do. I suppose all the parents are just too busy working so they can afford their overpriced subdivision tract homes, Coach purses and SUV's?
OK, ok...I said cut the snark and there I am doing it.:) But hey, that's my suggestion. We need to stop criticizing our schools and DO something to improve them.
I agree with you about not being able to get into the schools or the classroom. That is a BIG RED FLAG of a problem with the schools. Why don't they want us there and why can't we see what is going on? So I ask you...how do you know you are pleased then????
Resident of 23 years

Springfield, OH

#55 May 26, 2009
Enough wrote:
<quoted text>
I think if you reread Clearcreek Mom's post you will see that she was refering to Lakota Schools and not Springboro. Please correct me if I am wrong but that was the way I read it.
To quote Clearcreek Mom: "One thing Lakota did better, though, was getting parents involved in the schools. This was my main gripe with the schools when we moved there. As a "work at home" mom, I had time to volunteer now and then, but was told basically that nobody did that. They behave as if parents aren't welcome in the buildings." The comparison is that Lakota schools got parents involved, "the schools when me moved here" were the ones that don't encourage volunteers.

Since: May 09

Englewood, OH

#56 May 26, 2009
Yup, that's what I meant. I volunteered sometimes at Lakota, but here they act almost *suspicious* of parents who wanted to come into the schools.

I knew I was pleased with them because I did meet with them for conferences, e-mailed them, my kids have been happy and doing well. I think your kids' opinions count for a lot; they know when they're getting a quality educational experience.
Boro Blue

Sellersburg, IN

#57 Mar 28, 2012
Does anyone know what Springboro Schools pays for Officer Don?
the truthmeter

Cleveland, OH

#58 Mar 28, 2012
We do not need salaries with free online internet school. Look at the free school you can have. Stop inulting taxpayers. The kids are selfish and spoiled! Dr Kohls understands how hard it is to pay in this economy. No taxes is the goal. Stop the schools so we can have our money back to eat.
Support From a far

Delmar, NY

#59 May 1, 2013
Really Working hard wrote:
Most teachers after the first year teaching can use the same lesson plan year after year with minor changes, my children come home from springboro every day and when asked do you have homework they say yes but its only a completion grade, I can write whatever I want. The teachers in Springboro don't even grade papers anymore, so there nights are free. Stop crying you only work 180 days a year, for 6 months work you should be happy with your pay. Try working like the rest of us. You only work on average 6 hours a day minus an hour for panther time. If you don't like your pay try finding a new job with your pay only working 180 days a year. GOOD HUNTING.
You really have no clue about overtime and the pensions for Fire and Police do you?
Support From a far

Delmar, NY

#60 May 1, 2013
the truthmeter wrote:
We do not need salaries with free online internet school. Look at the free school you can have. Stop inulting taxpayers. The kids are selfish and spoiled! Dr Kohls understands how hard it is to pay in this economy. No taxes is the goal. Stop the schools so we can have our money back to eat.
I believe the correct spelling is insulting. It takes a community to raise a child.... selfish, spoiled or otherwise. School Taxes are part of that. Just as someone payed for you to go to school. Its now your turn. Sounds like someone else is being a little selfish too:)
Support From a far

Delmar, NY

#61 May 1, 2013
High School Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about not being able to get into the schools or the classroom. That is a BIG RED FLAG of a problem with the schools. Why don't they want us there and why can't we see what is going on? So I ask you...how do you know you are pleased then????
Its a great point. This way you will know where your taxes are going and you can provide first-hand support.

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