Judge berates Clearcreek Twp. officia...

Judge berates Clearcreek Twp. officials for secret meetings

There are 75 comments on the The Cincinnati Enquirer story from Feb 1, 2014, titled Judge berates Clearcreek Twp. officials for secret meetings. In it, The Cincinnati Enquirer reports that:

A Warren County judge on Friday lambasted Clearcreek Township officials for holding what could be viewed as illegal secret meetings.

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Apollo T-bone

Middletown, OH

#70 Apr 4, 2014
HEYrocky wrote:
Rocky Badabing, so, you want to talk to the boss, well that is fine. Let me have your number and I'll let my boss, ATTORNEY MINTZ give you a call.
Looks like CLEVAGE, i mean Cleveland, still has a chip on his shoulder.
Rocky Badabing

Akron, OH

#71 Apr 9, 2014
HEYrocky wrote:
Rocky Badabing, so, you want to talk to the boss, well that is fine. Let me have your number and I'll let my boss, ATTORNEY MINTZ give you a call.
Good afternoon SPORTS FANS,

I know you missed me but i was unavailable for a few days. Was this a threat?! Your boss ain't nary no attorney skippy. And i find this incredibly interesting that you want to exercise your freedom of speech but pucker that ol back side of yours when someone else has an opinion to offer.

You know what that say around these parts "You don't want none of this now"!
hopeful

Fairborn, OH

#72 Apr 9, 2014
Rocky Badabing wrote:
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Good afternoon SPORTS FANS,
I know you missed me but i was unavailable for a few days. Was this a threat?! Your boss ain't nary no attorney skippy. And i find this incredibly interesting that you want to exercise your freedom of speech but pucker that ol back side of yours when someone else has an opinion to offer.
You know what that say around these parts "You don't want none of this now"!
I have been watching this back and forth between you two...it appears to me you are looking to stir things up...if you are above it all as you claim, one would suggest you just let it go, unless YOU have an agenda.
Rocky Badabing

Akron, OH

#73 Apr 10, 2014
hopeful wrote:
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I have been watching this back and forth between you two...it appears to me you are looking to stir things up...if you are above it all as you claim, one would suggest you just let it go, unless YOU have an agenda.
First off, i appreciate what you are saying and i have no agenda here. I dont even know these people, never met a one of them. I dont know who is right or who is wrong and dont care. What i do have at issue is a few people who feel it is appropriate to beat up on people even when they are down on the ground. There is no common sense here, and I for one will call anyone out for acting like some street thug.

As i posted earlier, i dont take threats. the person or persons involved in these nasty posts obviously have an agenda and think their comments or opinions are all that matters in this world. While this may be the way things work in their head, when you lose respect for others, then i will stand up for against the pettiness and stupidity.

I too am always hopeful they will move on and get a life of their own and quit worrying about everyone else.

if they want to be involved, run for public office and see how much fun that is. I would guess they would not want to be micro-managed the way they seem to like to view others.
Happening

Cleveland, OH

#75 May 15, 2014
So, do we have a new administrator yet, since the last one violated the public's trust?
Darren

Middletown, OH

#77 May 15, 2014
yeah , who did they talk to? i wasa told by a fireman that the fiscal officer picked her guy as a pay back to someone that works for her in her other part time job with the county. he said the other candidates had no experience either but they were looking for the best person she could control and the trustees would not question

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#78 May 16, 2014
Linda Oda can't be nearly as bad as Pickett is, and at least isn't chummy with Wade and Gabbard.
Rocky Badabing

Akron, OH

#79 May 16, 2014
John Parise wrote:
Linda Oda can't be nearly as bad as Pickett is, and at least isn't chummy with Wade and Gabbard.
So if i could ask, are you saying that political cronyism is ok as long as you like the politician and dislike the other? Since she holds 2 elected offices, and there are those who feel this is inappropriate, and her husband is an elected official, and they have many political connections to which gives the appearance of political payback, this is ok? I'm just saying, it seems like a double standard.

Since: Dec 09

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#80 May 16, 2014
Rocky Badabing wrote:
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So if i could ask, are you saying that political cronyism is ok as long as you like the politician and dislike the other? Since she holds 2 elected offices, and there are those who feel this is inappropriate, and her husband is an elected official, and they have many political connections to which gives the appearance of political payback, this is ok? I'm just saying, it seems like a double standard.
double standard ? Wade and his flock have been doing it here for decades...turnaround is fair play.
so yes

Springboro, OH

#81 May 16, 2014
John Parise wrote:
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double standard ? Wade and his flock have been doing it here for decades...turnaround is fair play.
To answer the person's question above....yes, if Mr. Parise likes the person,(or doesn't know or dislike the person), then croyism is ok. He will only object if it is someone he doesn't like.
Darren

Middletown, OH

#82 May 16, 2014
John Parise wrote:
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double standard ? Wade and his flock have been doing it here for decades...turnaround is fair play.
Wow. You really are a sad man. You whine about what one side has done but think its ok for the other side to abuse the system. You really are a democrat. But then I guess "birds of a feather"...
OHnotheyDIDNT

Cleveland, OH

#84 Jun 4, 2014
This happen in Springboro & Clearcreek

Police officer fired for failing to charge firefighter with DUI

A Dayton police officer was recently fired for failing to charge a firefighter for driving while intoxicated after the firefighter struck several cars when he drove the wrong way on U.S. 35 last fall.

Officer Travis Salyer was terminated on May 19. He'd been with the department for seven years.

This week, the newspaper obtained an exclusive copy of a police administrative investigation report regarding Salyer's firing. The document cites multiple violations in the department's code of conduct stemming from the arrest of Dayton firefighter Brandon Lee on Aug. 28, 2013.

Clearcreek Administrators Dennis Pickett & Ronald Wilhelm also FAILED to do their jobs by letting a PAST Clearcreek Township part time firefighter and his son take EMS equipment out of a medic unit, which was parked at the 925 South Main street station, in broad daylight, and interfering with Clearcreek Paramedics with patient care.

Pickett & Wilhelm are scheduled to retire this year; however, the citizens of Springboro & Clearcreek Township are fed up with Pickett & Wilhelm’s lack of honesty, violating the public’s trust, and are demanding they be FIRED.

Neither Pickett nor Wilhelm returned our repeated calls. Hiding, once again.
Got News

Springfield, OH

#85 Jul 6, 2014
theWOWfactor wrote:
That is OK, the citizens of Clearcreek and Springboro will pay the legal fees that WADE, Pickett, GABBARD, Wilhelm, Lamb and McDonald incurred. Right now we are talking about 300K and it will probably go up!
Any updates on whatever happened to this big news of wasting 300K and up?
What's happening now, WOWfactor?
weed be gone

Dayton, OH

#86 Jul 6, 2014
Got News wrote:
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Any updates on whatever happened to this big news of wasting 300K and up?
What's happening now, WOWfactor?
well, loser in another run for township goon, Dale Lamb is cutting more lawns..no more sucking on the township tit for Lamb, maybe Wade is next.
Whatgoesaround

Cleveland, OH

#88 Aug 7, 2014
A judge who earlier found that the CLEARCREEK TOWNSHIP BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ADMINISTRATORS violated the open-meetings law with informal gatherings has ordered it to pay nearly $200,000 in attorney fees and costs.

The 2011 lawsuit said Clearcreek Township trustees in Warren County regularly met in the township administrator’s office before public meetings from 2009 to 2011 to work out their positions on issues.

The Dayton Daily News reported that Warren County Common Pleas Judge James Flannery has ordered the township to pay the attorney fees on behalf of resident Jack Chrisman, who sued the trustees.

Emily Grannis, a lawyer with the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said it’s a large award for that kind of litigation.

“It certainly is encouraging,” Grannis said.“It makes it worthwhile for lawyers to take this kind of work.”

Open-government advocates around the state had watched the case closely because of concerns that the township wasn’t alone in circumventing state law.

“Unfortunately, that’s a very common practice,” Grannis said.

Flannery said in March that there was no evidence that the township officials set out to deliberately violate the law, but that they did so by discussing such items as a lawn care contract and a zoning nuisance policy in the administrator’s office ahead of public meetings. He said such sessions raise the appearance that decisions are being made in a back room.

The newspaper reported that Flannery cut about $45,000 from the amount sought by attorneys Christopher Finney and Curt Hartman, who could appeal.

Officials said the attorney fees would be paid from township funds because insurance coverage has been exhausted.

“Our coverages are used up,” said Township Administrator Dennis Pickett.“The payment would be from public funds out of the general fund.”

Township Fiscal Officer Linda Oda said besides exhausting $50,000 in insurance coverage, the township paid more than $20,000 for its own legal costs.

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