Judge berates Clearcreek Twp. officials for secret meetings

Feb 1, 2014 Full story: The Cincinnati Enquirer 75

A Warren County judge on Friday lambasted Clearcreek Township officials for holding what could be viewed as illegal secret meetings.

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Resign Now

Springboro, OH

#49 Mar 19, 2014
Rocky Badabing wrote:
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I vote for some and against others; however I dont agree with making a major production out of something you could have handled in a better way and certainly less costly way. I am not here to support the trustees, i am simply trying to inject some common sense into something that sounds really stupid.
I will respect your opinion or anyones opinion if you feel that we should waste a quarter million dollars on a 50 cent violation of state statute.
Everyone makes mistakes; how about using some common sense and just saying it to them in a public meeting and allow them the chance to fix it instead of making a mountain our of a mole hill.
those involved in this have perpetrated a fraud against the residents of Clearcreek Twp. for financial gain and to further their own cause; whats the difference in what you are accusing the trustees of doing?
Discusting that you think blowing the whistle on law breakers is anything like breaking the laws of the State.
Ed Wade and Jason Gabbard should resign. Both of them were told multiple times by multiple people that they could not hold these secret meetings yet they chose to break the law. So are you so stupid as to say that after 30 years of being told to stop breaking the law that the person that finally brought this illegal behavior is a s guilty as the guys that did it? How stupid and you must be one or the other. WOW, I was right, you are entitled and think of yourself to be a King. Let me guess you voted for our tyrant of the United States-Osama?

Yes this illegal behavior is going to cost the township. I will suggest that it should cost Wade and Gabbard and Lamb personally. When the judgement is lodged they should fork up the money in damages personally. If they do not have the money they should resign immediately.
hopeful

Dayton, OH

#50 Mar 19, 2014
Resign Now wrote:
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Discusting that you think blowing the whistle on law breakers is anything like breaking the laws of the State.
Ed Wade and Jason Gabbard should resign. Both of them were told multiple times by multiple people that they could not hold these secret meetings yet they chose to break the law. So are you so stupid as to say that after 30 years of being told to stop breaking the law that the person that finally brought this illegal behavior is a s guilty as the guys that did it? How stupid and you must be one or the other. WOW, I was right, you are entitled and think of yourself to be a King. Let me guess you voted for our tyrant of the United States-Osama?
Yes this illegal behavior is going to cost the township. I will suggest that it should cost Wade and Gabbard and Lamb personally. When the judgement is lodged they should fork up the money in damages personally. If they do not have the money they should resign immediately.
Personally, I think they ought to do jail time. Would enjoy seeing them picking up trash along the roadways on work crews. They need to be taught some humility.
WadeMustGo

Springboro, OH

#51 Mar 19, 2014
hopeful wrote:
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Personally, I think they ought to do jail time. Would enjoy seeing them picking up trash along the roadways on work crews. They need to be taught some humility.
That won't happen in Warren County. It will be interesting to see what damages and attorney fees judge Flannery awards. Flannery must have been a little embarrassed that an appeals court ruled he did not look at evidence and sent it back to him. Even in his final ruling, this judge goes out of his way to defend the township by saying they didn't intentionally break the law. It still looks like this judge is not looking at the evidence. Don't be surprised if the damages awarded are kind of low.

By the way, having Wade and Gabbard on the side of the road just adds to the trash problem.
hopeful

Dayton, OH

#52 Mar 20, 2014
WadeMustGo wrote:
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That won't happen in Warren County. It will be interesting to see what damages and attorney fees judge Flannery awards. Flannery must have been a little embarrassed that an appeals court ruled he did not look at evidence and sent it back to him. Even in his final ruling, this judge goes out of his way to defend the township by saying they didn't intentionally break the law. It still looks like this judge is not looking at the evidence. Don't be surprised if the damages awarded are kind of low.
By the way, having Wade and Gabbard on the side of the road just adds to the trash problem.
Wonder if Wade tried to grease the wheels, so to speak, with Flannery ?
WadeMustGo

Springboro, OH

#53 Mar 20, 2014
hopeful wrote:
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Wonder if Wade tried to grease the wheels, so to speak, with Flannery ?
It gives the appearance that something took place. How can you initially come to the conclusion there is no evidence and then turn around and say the evidence seems to show these meetings were held? Looks like Flannery wasn't expecting an appeal.
NowWhat

Cleveland, OH

#54 Mar 21, 2014
Wade and Gabbard HAS donated to FLANNERYs campaign and they are tight. The shame of all of this mess is that the citizens are screwed, AGAIN! On another note, Pickett is leaving this year, and so is his trusted sidekick Ronald Wilhelm. People do not talk about Wilhelm much because he likes to hide under the radar, blaming others for the Townships mistakes. He is quite worthless and there is NO reason to have two administrators in such a small town. Not unless the goal is to deceive the public, then you need two administrators. One to lie and the other to cheat and steal.
Rocky Badabing

Trenton, OH

#55 Mar 21, 2014
NowWhat wrote:
Wade and Gabbard HAS donated to FLANNERYs campaign and they are tight. The shame of all of this mess is that the citizens are screwed, AGAIN! On another note, Pickett is leaving this year, and so is his trusted sidekick Ronald Wilhelm. People do not talk about Wilhelm much because he likes to hide under the radar, blaming others for the Townships mistakes. He is quite worthless and there is NO reason to have two administrators in such a small town. Not unless the goal is to deceive the public, then you need two administrators. One to lie and the other to cheat and steal.

This is what i love about this blog. So many people on here have nothing better to do than to make things very personal in their postings How sad of a personal life you must have to attack individuals. What or why do you even care if they give their personal money to a candidate for office? Sounds like you have some inner personal issues you have not resolved yet.

You also sound like the kind of guy who wants to reduce our police and fire staff; we dont need all of those public safety guys do we?? And those public works guys dont do much for us do they?? You must be the kind of person who sits in a room and looks out the windows wondering what it would be like to have a real life and not some make believe life like ones you read about in books. Probably even dreamed about riding in one of those police cars or even a fire truck.

You obviously dont know a great deal about public administration but that aside, why would someone in CLEVELAND care about us folks down here in Southwest Ohio? You all do things a little differently up there dont you?
LAYOFF

Cleveland, OH

#56 Mar 21, 2014
Layoff Wade because of his mother? Did you know that WADE did not lay off of a CCFD firefighter who attempted suicide so why lay off WADE? WADE had him FIRED -- so get over it. WADE SHOT THE FIRST SALVO!
I wanna be a cowboy

Trenton, OH

#57 Mar 21, 2014
what is this? we have an epidemic of cleveland residents who are seriously concerned about us township residents. you sound like a bitter person. they make a pill for that you should consider the next time you see your physician.
hopeful

Dayton, OH

#59 Mar 22, 2014
LAYOFF wrote:
Layoff Wade because of his mother? Did you know that WADE did not lay off of a CCFD firefighter who attempted suicide so why lay off WADE? WADE had him FIRED -- so get over it. WADE SHOT THE FIRST SALVO!
Those that live by the sword, die by the sword. I agree with you.
NOWwhat

Cleveland, OH

#60 Mar 24, 2014
Us northeast Ohio folks have FAMILY in that corrupted community you call home. My parents are FED UP with their inappropriate behaviors and WE have every right to speak up for them and others. So there!
Rocky Badabing

Trenton, OH

#61 Mar 24, 2014
NOWwhat wrote:
Us northeast Ohio folks have FAMILY in that corrupted community you call home. My parents are FED UP with their inappropriate behaviors and WE have every right to speak up for them and others. So there!
This last post says a lot about you and the type of person you are. SO THERE? what is this grade school? Since you placed your parents in your post, i will not disrespect them the way you did Mr. Wade during the time he was grieving for the loss of his mother. As far as "Us northeast Ohio Folks" you should just try and be honest and say "I" instead us folks. Its just you; say it with me! No one else cares about your hater plan for CC.

Your posts sound like the rants of either a spoiled brat or someone who has an ax to grind because they took your ball away from you and you want play in our sandbox anymore.

You should be happy this blog allows you to be a sound off since obviously no one else would listen to you other than the few people on here who seem to hate everyone.

But since i have love in my heart for you and all the haters, i want to send you some kindness and love to help you make it through these miserable days you seem to have.

Wizard

Dayton, OH

#62 Mar 25, 2014
Rocky Badabing wrote:
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This last post says a lot about you and the type of person you are. SO THERE? what is this grade school? Since you placed your parents in your post, i will not disrespect them the way you did Mr. Wade during the time he was grieving for the loss of his mother. As far as "Us northeast Ohio Folks" you should just try and be honest and say "I" instead us folks. Its just you; say it with me! No one else cares about your hater plan for CC.
Your posts sound like the rants of either a spoiled brat or someone who has an ax to grind because they took your ball away from you and you want play in our sandbox anymore.
You should be happy this blog allows you to be a sound off since obviously no one else would listen to you other than the few people on here who seem to hate everyone.
But since i have love in my heart for you and all the haters, i want to send you some kindness and love to help you make it through these miserable days you seem to have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mACqcZZwG0kXX
You should have included the song from the wizard of Oz. Because these people who complain all the time have no brains, no courage and certainly no heart!

Since: Dec 09

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#63 Mar 26, 2014
NowWhat wrote:
Wade and Gabbard HAS donated to FLANNERYs campaign and they are tight. The shame of all of this mess is that the citizens are screwed, AGAIN! On another note, Pickett is leaving this year, and so is his trusted sidekick Ronald Wilhelm. People do not talk about Wilhelm much because he likes to hide under the radar, blaming others for the Townships mistakes. He is quite worthless and there is NO reason to have two administrators in such a small town. Not unless the goal is to deceive the public, then you need two administrators. One to lie and the other to cheat and steal.
Isn't that a conflict of interest ? Flannery should have recused himself...maybe that's why the appeals court sent it back. Flannery, we are watching you now....you will not get my vote next time out...you, being a judge are SUPPOSED to be impartial !
Darren

Dayton, OH

#64 Mar 31, 2014
NOWwhat wrote:
Us northeast Ohio folks have FAMILY in that corrupted community you call home. My parents are FED UP with their inappropriate behaviors and WE have every right to speak up for them and others. So there!
Who ever you are , I am so glad you don't live here anymore!!,
All I can say is THANK YOU for moving away
May god bless you in your misery
hopeful

Dayton, OH

#65 Apr 1, 2014
Darren wrote:
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Who ever you are , I am so glad you don't live here anymore!!,
All I can say is THANK YOU for moving away
May god bless you in your misery
Quite frankly I glad someone is blowing the whistle on corrupt politicians..I don't care where they are from, corruption needs to be exposed. I am not surprised you would rather bury your head in the sand, for that is how crooked people get away with their crimes.
THISjustIN

Cleveland, OH

#66 Apr 2, 2014
This just in -- Ron Wilhelm, Clearcreek Township Assistant to the Administrator and sack licker, just announced his RETIREMENT. He plans on retiring this summer, BEFORE they kick PICKETT to the street in the fall. Wade could not be contacted for his two cents worth, but WILHELM has been behind the scene for many years, guiding WADE, PICKETT, GABBARD, LAMB and McDONALD.

Perhaps WILHELM can ask WADE to get GABBARD to fork over the MILLIONS he stole when the Township purchased Gabbard's land for a new park -- like we really need a new one. Perhaps WILHELM can get all of the officials to TELL THE TRUTH. Well, I was hoping.
hopeful

Dayton, OH

#67 Apr 2, 2014
THISjustIN wrote:
This just in -- Ron Wilhelm, Clearcreek Township Assistant to the Administrator and sack licker, just announced his RETIREMENT. He plans on retiring this summer, BEFORE they kick PICKETT to the street in the fall. Wade could not be contacted for his two cents worth, but WILHELM has been behind the scene for many years, guiding WADE, PICKETT, GABBARD, LAMB and McDONALD.
Perhaps WILHELM can ask WADE to get GABBARD to fork over the MILLIONS he stole when the Township purchased Gabbard's land for a new park -- like we really need a new one. Perhaps WILHELM can get all of the officials to TELL THE TRUTH. Well, I was hoping.
Crooks have no conscience, Wade is proof of that.
Rocky Badabing

Trenton, OH

#68 Apr 3, 2014
THISjustIN wrote:
This just in -- Ron Wilhelm, Clearcreek Township Assistant to the Administrator and sack licker, just announced his RETIREMENT. He plans on retiring this summer, BEFORE they kick PICKETT to the street in the fall. Wade could not be contacted for his two cents worth, but WILHELM has been behind the scene for many years, guiding WADE, PICKETT, GABBARD, LAMB and McDONALD.
Perhaps WILHELM can ask WADE to get GABBARD to fork over the MILLIONS he stole when the Township purchased Gabbard's land for a new park -- like we really need a new one. Perhaps WILHELM can get all of the officials to TELL THE TRUTH. Well, I was hoping.
You are a sad and bitter guy. What made you so bitter? Was it the way you had to leave the area and take a job to the north? This is not the way someone in your profession normally acts. I trust that you would not want your current employer and staff to find out about your lack of professional conduct?! The courts in your new hood are pretty brutal on public officials.

You still upset there wasnt a parade in your honor when you left?
HEYrocky

Cleveland, OH

#69 Apr 4, 2014
Rocky Badabing, so, you want to talk to the boss, well that is fine. Let me have your number and I'll let my boss, ATTORNEY MINTZ give you a call.

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