why would a springboro board of education member not choose springboro?

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How come school board member David petroni doesn't choose springboro schools for his own school age children? Can we get an answer please? Why are the schools he's running good enough for my child but not his?
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Beauty of being in America -- freedom of choice. would you take that ability to choose away, or just want to criticize for making an individual coice here? I'm ok wiht criticism, and it does appear to be a WTF situation, but he is free to choose his own schools for his own kids.
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He probably got tired of the 'sky is falling union-first' crowd trying to plunder our taxes in levies year after year.

Oddly enough, Petroni and the other children-first board members discovered the ruse that was 'no high school busing' and 'pay to participate'. Pay to participate costs were then reduce by 30% and then gave families that chose to participate another venue by which they could reduce it by another $100.

Putting your personal bias aside, why don't you worry about educating the 2000 plus kids that are already in your school system that aren't getting the education the taxpayers are funding?

With the narrow minded union-first attitude of the SEA would you want your kids in the 'boro school district? Can you imagine how his kids would be retaliated against? He is the perfect board member. Nothing to lose!
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Rider wrote:
Beauty of being in America -- freedom of choice. would you take that ability to choose away, or just want to criticize for making an individual coice here? I'm ok wiht criticism, and it does appear to be a WTF situation, but he is free to choose his own schools for his own kids.
Where to his children go? What schools does he think are better than the ones he so proudly wants yo run?
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poundsand wrote:
He probably got tired of the 'sky is falling union-first' crowd trying to plunder our taxes in levies year after year.
Oddly enough, Petroni and the other children-first board members discovered the ruse that was 'no high school busing' and 'pay to participate'. Pay to participate costs were then reduce by 30% and then gave families that chose to participate another venue by which they could reduce it by another $100.
Putting your personal bias aside, why don't you worry about educating the 2000 plus kids that are already in your school system that aren't getting the education the taxpayers are funding?
With the narrow minded union-first attitude of the SEA would you want your kids in the 'boro school district? Can you imagine how his kids would be retaliated against? He is the perfect board member. Nothing to lose!
I am concerned bcause he has nothing to lose - just as you state. Would he care what happens to my child? Doubtful. I have yet to get a response as to why he doesn't enrolled his children in our schools. The other BOE members all do...what's so wrong with Springboro Community Schools that prevents him from sending his kids while he dictates what's good enough for mine?
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Petroni's kids are HOMESCHOOLED! AND good question, why do his kids NOT go to Springboro?
IF he is going to make decisions for OUR children then it should be from someone who can speak from experience and a vested interest.
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I am concerned bcause he has nothing to lose - just as you state. Would he care what happens to my child? Doubtful. I have yet to get a response as to why he doesn't enrolled his children in our schools. The other BOE members all do...what's so wrong with Springboro Community Schools that prevents him from sending his kids while he dictates what's good enough for mine?
I don't know why he doesn't why don't you ask him instead of whine about it?

You really think he doesn't care about the children?
I feel the same way about the Springboro SEA who have a lot more influence over our kids. Why don't you bitch about them?
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poundsand wrote:
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I don't know why he doesn't why don't you ask him instead of whine about it?
You really think he doesn't care about the children?
I feel the same way about the Springboro SEA who have a lot more influence over our kids. Why don't you bitch about them?
Because the SEA is the only thing keeping those crooked board members in line. Petroni, Regano, and Kohls are the biggest jokes foe elected officials I've ever met...
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Because the SEA is the only thing keeping those crooked board members in line. Petroni, Regano, and Kohls are the biggest jokes foe elected officials I've ever met...
Actually, they are the best school board officials we had had since the stone age, where there was a levy on the ballot almost every year. But then again, you never met a levy you didn't love. BTW, get your own name, doofus.
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Because the SEA is the only thing keeping those crooked board members in line. Petroni, Regano, and Kohls are the biggest jokes foe elected officials I've ever met...
yea, and that worked out so much better when Baker was in charge.

Levy, scare tactics, levy, union-first, levy, rinse and repeat.
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not good enough wrote:
How come school board member David petroni doesn't choose springboro schools for his own school age children? Can we get an answer please? Why are the schools he's running good enough for my child but not his?
You ought to be a hellava lot more concerned about the former charter schools teacher who desires to become the type of Springboro board member that lives to shovel... YOUR... taxes into the perpetually hungry mouth of the union Borg.
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yea, and that worked out so much better when Baker was in charge.
Levy, scare tactics, levy, union-first, levy, rinse and repeat.
So now that Baker is gone why do you still insist public education is corrupt?
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borobeef wrote:
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So now that Baker is gone why do you still insist public education is corrupt?
Where did I insist public education is corrupt?
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borobeef wrote:
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I am concerned bcause he has nothing to lose - just as you state. Would he care what happens to my child? Doubtful. I have yet to get a response as to why he doesn't enrolled his children in our schools. The other BOE members all do...what's so wrong with Springboro Community Schools that prevents him from sending his kids while he dictates what's good enough for mine?
Finding ways to methodically advance student achievement should always be everyone’s goal. Implementing academic reforms will, for example, reduce the present need for so many of our students needing to take college remediation courses. This, of course, will immediately translate into money saved for parents whose students attend Ohio’s colleges. And, in order to meet this challenge of higher academic quality, the current school Board of Education and District are, or already have plans to, invest heavily in technology, professional development for teachers, new textbooks, as well as new computers for every teacher, plus much more.
All this being said, there is a lot of work yet to be done to assure you (parents) that we will strive to do more than meet the minimum state requirements. The current Board of Education is dedicated to being advocates for every student striving to push the bar higher than other districts.
Some say there’s no need to change because our district achieved an “excellent with Distinction” rating for our most recent school year. But we live in a world that is dynamic, a world of ever-evolving expectations and realities that require our constant attention. What once was an acceptable level of achievement is now a relic of the past that will ill serve our children and our taxpayers in the future.
As parents, we all desire that our children be provided the best we can afford. We constantly challenge our children with the hope that doing so will help prepare them for the world and better lives than we ourselves enjoy. We are also highly cognizant of the importance of true learning and greatly value education and the promise of what it may bring.
Everyone in the school community has more in common than they have differences. Let us meld that commonality to push forth a better school system than we enjoy today. We owe it to our children. Let us come together to push for real achievement and higher standards that we currently demand.
http://educatespringboro.wordpress.com/2013/0...
Harmful Illusions

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not good enough wrote:
How come school board member David petroni doesn't choose springboro schools for his own school age children? Can we get an answer please? Why are the schools he's running good enough for my child but not his?
Is the Illusion of Excellence Harmful?

Districts love to point to their fine report card rating as evidence of high performance. Real estate agents love to tout those excellent ratings as proof that a home in the community is a good value. But at some point, Ohioans may want to take a serious look at what is really happening in their school districts. Parents and taxpayers need to know that “excellent” may not be as advertised. It is a disservice to the general public, to parents and especially to children when we pretend that more and more districts are doing a stellar job, when they are not. The stakes are much higher than they are for 1st grade soccer players, who are all superstars. Policymakers must acknowledge that there are serious flaws in an evaluation system that says that the majority of districts are doing excellent work, when all of the data comparing Ohio students nationally and internationally paint a very different picture.

A major disconnect exists when Ohio’s standards suggest that 51.7% of 8th graders are performing at an accelerated or advanced level in reading and the national data suggest that only a small fraction of these 8th graders are anywhere near an advanced level.

Policy Implications:

There is another critical reason t take a hard look at what constitutes an excellent district. Policymakers are increasingly inclined to waive education standards, categorical spending constraints, and other requirements for districts that appear to be high performing. The argument is, why tie the hands of administrators in districts that are so effective? Just give them a pot of money and let them continue to do their excellent job. Recently, Ohio policymakers raised the ante even further by distributing a monetary reward to districts rated excellent. In the current biennial budget, each district rated excellent or excellent with distinction received extra per pupil funding.
The stakes are higher now when it comes to receiving this excellent rating. But what if these highly rated districts aren’t really doing an excellent job? Who suffers the consequences? As the bar for excellence declines and the stakes for failing to achieve that rating rise, districts are provided with increasing incentives to manipulative the system to maintain their high ratings. As one member from the Shawnee Local School District recently shared with the Ohio House Education committee,

The quality of the current education system is measured and rated on test scores –specifically reading and math scores—and graduation rates which are flawed inefficient and unreliable. Testing ratings and graduation requirements can easily be manipulated to imply a higher quality of education than actual performance.
(Ohio House Education Committee, Speptember 21, 2011, testimony
on HB 136)

In light of this commentary, Ohio’s performance on the Algebra II assessment pilot is an example of how the state has kept standards low and buried efforts both to raise standards and to provide direct comparisons to other states. The pilot program run by the American Diploma Project, widely publicized in 2005, was designed to evaluate students in multiple states for true college math readiness on the basis of cut scores that could not be manipulated by districts or state education agencies. In 2009, Ohio students who participated in the project scored poorly-86.6% scored at below proficient levels. Ohio’s participation in the project declined sharply in 2010 (American Diploma Project). In fact, there appears to be little or any mention of this exam, which once was touted as the first step toward ensuring that Ohio students were truly prepared for college.
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Why does petroni homeschool? Simple question....why no answer?
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Why does petroni homeschool? Simple question....why no answer?
Simple minds are capable only of asking simple questions.
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Answer wrote:
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Simple minds are capable only of asking simple questions.
People with things to hide refuse to answer simple questions ;)
Tired of Forced Unionism

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I am concerned bcause he has nothing to lose - just as you state. Would he care what happens to my child? Doubtful. I have yet to get a response as to why he doesn't enrolled his children in our schools. The other BOE members all do...what's so wrong with Springboro Community Schools that prevents him from sending his kids while he dictates what's good enough for mine?
Typical mentality of our neighbors who are fully indoctrinated into the selfish cult of unionism - God Bless me and my wife, my son and his wife, us four and no more.

Ever wonder why local taxes rarely (if ever!) get cut? Whether it is our property taxes, city income taxes, county sales taxes, or other local taxes, rates climb and there is little debate about REDUCING taxes. Ever wondered WHY that is the case?

HUMAN NATURE AND LABOR UNIONS ARE THE REASONS.

First, people at work and in the communities ABHOR interpersonal conflict and must possess a MOTIVE to work against that ingrained desire to get along.

In the private sector, the motive is profit, which determines pay and job security. In government, no such motive exists, which is precisely why even pro-union politicians (like President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed giving government workers the ENTITLEMENT to collectively bargain.

Without the necessary motive to work against their desire to get along, when collective bargaining negotiations occur between government unions and government entities, government managers
--Risk averse by the fact they work in government--Don't engage in the conflict necessary to keep a lid on compensation packages.

Since compensation packages SWALLOW the vast majority of local budgets, keeping spending down and taxes low requires RESTRAINING
The growth of compensation packages of government workers. With NO motive to counter the desire to get along, few government entities RESTRAIN compensation package costs.
The largest cost in local government is compensation packages; but the need for realigning compensation packages to keep down costs and local taxes is so rare, it never enters the conversation.

Instead the unions enter into the politics of personal destruction attacking character of board member with their scathing war of words, IF board members dare not "go along just to get along" with their old outdated collectively bargaining rights to walk out on our children's classrooms.
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Tired of Forced Unionism wrote:
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Without the necessary motive to work against their desire to get along, when collective bargaining negotiations occur between government unions and government entities, government managers
"Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost!" -- Ronald Reagan

To answer the original poster's question:
"why would a springboro board of education member not choose springboro?"
Probably for the same reason he holds church services in his basement and never lets his wife out of the house.

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