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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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BoroWise

Springfield, OH

#31877 Aug 18, 2014
Parents set the examples wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the Bluegrass State...
KY is ground zero for America's obesity problem.
If public school children in KY (and other states) have a propensity to throw good, heathful food in the cafeteria garbage can, it's very likely because they've not had exposure to healthful diets in their homes.
Parents can set the example at home; but the public schools can override the home's influence once the child's is mandated into the public schools with a union classroom teacher indoctrinating that child's mind to whatever OEA forced unionism benefits the self-interest agenda of the Springboro Education Association, in conflict with our children's first priority interests of highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility? Where is the outrage among parents over the pollution of our children's minds with the
junk diet of dumb-downed core curriculum standards, while teaching youth unionism,
fighting social justice for public school teachers union agenda of job security, getting more pay for doing less work in the classroom?
TV Land

Springfield, OH

#31878 Aug 18, 2014
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever!.........but for sure within the diversity of our community, there will be the richey rich kids gagging on their silver spoons as they get a double dipping of everything; while the kids that qualify for FREE government lunches gag on that awful federally mandated school lunch menu! Welcome Back.... to MoreRon status quo failed practices, holding all students captive in the public school classrooms with a union teacher, gagging on greed for More taxpayers dollars, while refusing to work in the same vigorous manner as those taxpayers in the private sector!
Did anyone else see in today's TV news that the Dayton Public schools teachers union is practicing the old SEA glorified "go red for ed" campaign for Union Solidarity against their
school district taxpayers?(You can read all about it in the OEA article "This is What Solidarity Looks Like" written by Scott Maney, Springboro Education Association, President, and Marla Bell, OEA/LRC at the website: http://www.ohea.org/this-is-what-solidarity-l... )

Also heard "in the news" that Butler County social services workers are striking out against children in their protesting "Help Us Help Children" campaign..........;

sounds a lot like the Clearcreek Township Firefighters union campaign "Help Us Help You" mantra last May 2013, in which firefighters/teachers union joined in "union solidarity"
fighting against Springboro Taxpayers to increase our fire levy taxes a whopping 93%(which was proven to be unnecessary) and failed to pass at the polls.
setting the right example

Springfield, OH

#31879 Aug 18, 2014
TV Land wrote:
<quoted text>
sounds a lot like the Clearcreek Township Firefighters union campaign "Help Us Help You" mantra last May 2013, in which firefighters/teachers union joined in "union solidarity"
fighting against Springboro Taxpayers to increase our fire levy taxes a whopping 93%(which was proven to be unnecessary) and failed to pass at the polls.
Speaking of firefighters...
Why do certain local firefighters use kiddie fire safety classes as a means to show off in front of the opposite gender?
Pull the kids out

Springfield, OH

#31882 Aug 22, 2014
Does anyone know why the Kohls pulled their kids out of Springboro schools?
What do the Kohls know that we don't? I say, I am with them. Pull your kids out!
What are they going to do now? Even the virtual and charter schools are public and socialist trainers. Where do you go for a real education, one not controlled by unions?
Vouchers

Springfield, OH

#31883 Aug 22, 2014
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
Example 4 the kids

Springfield, OH

#31884 Aug 22, 2014
Re: The intentional destruction of wetland that's now occuring in front a Boro elementary school.

http://wi.water.usgs.gov/pubs/FS-246-96/

"In the broadest sense,(wetland) mitigation is a process that focuses on: 1) avoiding wetland loss, 2) minimizing the effect of wetland loss, and 3) compensating for unavoidable wetland loss.
In general usage, however, mitigation has become synonymous with number 3 and now refers to replacing the function and structure of a destroyed wetland by creating, restoring or enhancing a wetland somewhere else. This mitigation of wetland loss has been mandated by federal law, and there have been numerous large and small wetland mitigation projects in every part of the nation."
In other words, if an entity destroys a wetland over here, they're legally obliged to rebuild a wetland over there.

Y'know, at the end of the day, this isn't just about obeying federal laws, this is about setting a good environmental example FOR THE KIDS.
Eight Is Too Much

Springfield, OH

#31885 Aug 22, 2014
The time has now come for all Good Citizens of Springboro to demand that Charles Anderson and Ron Malone accept our "Kick the Bucket" challenge and just resign as Board of Education president and vice president; based on their Eight months of MoreRons stupidly wasting our school district resources and taxpayers money.
Enough Is Enough

Springfield, OH

#31886 Aug 22, 2014
Vouchers wrote:
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
Why work for the union bosses who have No Respect for teachers nor taxpayers?
Why not accept this challenge to above all things (and dollars) just Respect Yourself
enough to just say NO to forced unionism? If enough teachers would opt out of paying those big union dues, then the union would not have so much money and power over the Teachers,
indoctrinating our children's minds further into liberal socialism and further away from our
Constitutional Rights? Just Keep in Mind that the big union bosses and the politicians of both parties are the only ones benefiting from the big business of having every child in the community enrolled in a classroom with a union classroom teacher.
lol

Springfield, OH

#31888 Aug 22, 2014
Going to Get Worse wrote:
Better get ready. Kasich is going to cut all local funding, including schools. It is time to prepare.
1. Before negotiating a new contract, the Board and whatever management is still employed needs to go through the District's needs from the bottom up. Taking what was spent last year and adding 5% is not good evough. DO THE WORK!!!
2. Look at every school and see how many students and teachers there are. Is that what is truly needed or just what is "wanted"?
3. Look at every supplemental contract. Did you know that teachers get paid extra for "curriculum" duties and "grade leaders" and to be "Evaluators/mentors" ? This is on top of their salary and before their after-school supplemental contracts.
4. How many sports teams do we need? Why isn't the pay to play money applied directly to the sport?
5. Get back to basics. Sorry - but we don't need to pay for the strings program. I would rather have bussing, and parents can haul their kids to private lessons or start an afterschool program.
The above "Going to Get Worse" post is from this blog dated November 10, 2010.

It's August 22, 2014, now and the Worst of the past eight months of union controlled leadership Charles Anderson and Ron Malone.... is going to get "worser and worst" if these two MoreRons of status quo past failed practices don't step down and stop all this messing up in the board room decisions!
Save Our Schools

Springfield, OH

#31890 Aug 23, 2014
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
The above "Going to Get Worse" post is from this blog dated November 10, 2010.
It's August 22, 2014, now and the Worst of the past eight months of union controlled leadership Charles Anderson and Ron Malone.... is going to get "worser and worst" if these two MoreRons of status quo past failed practices don't step down and stop all this messing up in the board room decisions!
Truth Be Told, For S-U-R-E, Springboro Board Members Charles Anderson/ Ron Malone/ David
Stuckey have in just eight months of destructive public "non-service" successfully completed the "Waste Bucket Challenge" from the Springboro Education Association to stupidly WASTE
our school tax dollars which could have been used for a brighter future for our school children,
teachers, and community members.

Now our children's future looks as dark as those shadowy figures of the MVP Levy campaign being promoted throughout our Staff members; throwing FEAR (false evidence
appearing real) and insecurity into the minds of our teachers; who in turn are growing more hostile toward Springboro citizens who refuse to pass the levies.
hostile toward Springboro citizens and students and their families who will never support
the mission and vision of ONE community of forced unionism solidarity.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31891 Aug 26, 2014
Reality Bytes wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't it true that the students from more affluent families can fatten the principal's fund
by feeding the vending machines dispensing really expensive sugary drinks; and what about those principal's fund raising antics of wooing a donation of food from the students' homes with bribes of selling second slices of pizza pie for just half the price?
Truth is, trying to justify those outlandishly high school lunch prices by promoting the myth that the government can legislate, regulate, and educate students to eat, live, and learn the union boot camp way (because the parents at home are too slothful in their duties) is nothing but symbolism giving government leaders false empowerment that they really can do it all for the kids.....if only those pesky parents would get out of the way and trust the Educators and "say yes the first time to school levies!" It's All About the Money!
We don't really get that much from those deals on our vending machines. The school district profits a whopping 15% of the NET profits of the machines. Hardly the windfall that amounts to more or less a rounding error in a $54 million dollar budget.
In The News

Springfield, OH

#31892 Aug 26, 2014
Increased Taxation coming to Warren County in November?

DDN website article Career Center will ask for 3.5 mills in November
Voters to see replacement levy

Is this another help us help you plea for increased taxes?
http://wwwdaytondailynews.com/news/news/local...
Certainly Worth Repeating

Springfield, OH

#31893 Aug 26, 2014
Vouchers wrote:
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
say no to laptops

Springfield, OH

#31894 Aug 26, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Always an excuse instead of working to identify the problem and begin planning upon solutions.
As Mr. Malone stated, "what is in textbooks doesn't matter, teachers can teach whatever they want", maybe that is the part of the problem.
In other words, the former SHS principal is of the opinion that curriculum on any given school day is subjective to an educator's whim. He was there 13 years. He would know. So if teachers have predetermined notions regarding their teaching agendas, why the current push to make laptops mandatory?

According to Malone-logic, laptops would effectively become one more extention of "whatever the teacher wants". Indeed, buying laptops for each student would be an expensive proposition for many district parents. Frankly, making laptops mandatory could very well instill a certain degree of laziness in teachers, especially those who are less than self-motivated.
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31895 Aug 27, 2014
say no to laptops wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, the former SHS principal is of the opinion that curriculum on any given school day is subjective to an educator's whim. He was there 13 years. He would know. So if teachers have predetermined notions regarding their teaching agendas, why the current push to make laptops mandatory?
According to Malone-logic, laptops would effectively become one more extention of "whatever the teacher wants". Indeed, buying laptops for each student would be an expensive proposition for many district parents. Frankly, making laptops mandatory could very well instill a certain degree of laziness in teachers, especially those who are less than self-motivated.
Remember way back yonder in time when our school district leaders whined that they had no money to purchase curriculum needed to ensure students success in the classroom? Wasn't that during the same time that our administrative staff was fattened up with increased employment and big raises, while a quarter million dollars worth of textbooks sat in shipping crates and never came out of the supply closet?

Isn't the same thing happening now under the leadership of board president and vice president, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone? Although our school superintendent is now telling parents that the BYOT is not mandated; isn't it just a matter of time until fear (false evidence appearing real) is projected into the community that students who do not have their own laptops may be at a slight disadvantage to benefit from the e-books; and that to ensure every student "success in the classroom" it is the responsibility of the Taxpayers to pass the levies needed to ensure a "quality classroom education" for every child?

IF "according to Malone-logic, laptops would effectively become one more extention of whatever the teacher wants," making laptops mandatory could very well get those teachers what they really really want and that's what the Many Voices Project is all about--presenting false evidence appearing real to the community projecting "unmet needs" in the students classroom education, emotionally manipulating parents to get out there and put the pressure on the voters to "pass the next increased taxation levy the first time" for the sake of safety for our children!

After all, if all the kids have their own laptops, then none of the kids will have to carry around those heavily padded backpacks, and who knows what might be inside those backpacks that could be
"unsafe?"
say no to laptops

Springfield, OH

#31896 Aug 27, 2014
Just Asking wrote:
<quoted text>
After all, if all the kids have their own laptops, then none of the kids will have to carry around those heavily padded backpacks, and who knows what might be inside those backpacks that could be
"unsafe?"
Making laptops "mandatory" won't stop textbook marketing companies from lobbying school districts into purchasing their product. The end result? In the future, each student backpack will continue to be lined with books, in addition to their "mandatory" laptop.
the inside track

Springfield, OH

#31898 Aug 28, 2014
say no to laptops wrote:
<quoted text>
Making laptops "mandatory" won't stop textbook marketing companies from lobbying school districts into purchasing their product. The end result? In the future, each student backpack will continue to be lined with books, in addition to their "mandatory" laptop.
Since classes resumed Monday, some Springboro teachers have been badgering students daily to "BYOT" (bring your own technology).
Also they've been asking students who have laptops to share with those who don't.
For legitimate reasons, a large number of students are putting up resistance.
Accountability

Springfield, OH

#31899 Aug 29, 2014
the inside track wrote:
<quoted text>
Since classes resumed Monday, some Springboro teachers have been badgering students daily to "BYOT" (bring your own technology).
Also they've been asking students who have laptops to share with those who don't.
For legitimate reasons, a large number of students are putting up resistance.
All Springboro stakeholders "on the outside" need to be alert to what's happening Now on the inside of our schools under the union controlled leadership of Board president and vice president, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone. Most likely, Charles Anderson doesn't have a clue what's going on and the Springboro Education Association is pulling the strings of board members/retired educators Ron Malone and David Stuckey, who hang out in the schools just as they did last year when they were school employees, are bossing around Todd Petrey to put the will of the Union first--then take a gamble on voters saying yes the first time to increased taxes school levies that, Todd Petrey appears to be preaching to his staff, are coming soon to the board room for MSA majority vote approval.

Springboro stakeholders can stay informed by checking the school website and signing up to receive updates from all the school principals and the Boro E-News. In the Boro E-News, Todd Petrey again reminds parents that BYOT is not mandatory. Parents need to stay alert to what's happening in their child's classrooms under the indoctrination of a union classroom teacher, and must take responsibility to confront their child's classroom teacher who pressures their child to BYOT, since this requirement is not school policy. If our union classroom teachers continue pressure on children to BYOT after parents remind them that this is not required, then the parents should take the concern of the union classroom teacher's pressure of their child to the Building Principal, then if the Principal will not intervene on behalf of your child's best interest, parents should take their concerns to the Superintendent; if the superintendent ignores the child's best interest in the classroom with a union teacher, then the parents must bring their concerns to the public Board of Education meeting, so that the community as a whole is aware of our classroom teachers' intimidating behavior toward our school children who are captive audiences in their classrooms.

Springboro taxpayers are already providing a generous stream of tax revenue sufficient for providing our students a quality classroom education; and we all need to be more watchful and diligent in educating ourselves to the wasteful spending going on under the union controlled leadership of board majority members, Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, and David Stuckey.
More Money Is Not Needed; But More Accountability.
ulterior motive

Springfield, OH

#31900 Aug 29, 2014
Accountability wrote:
<quoted text>
All Springboro stakeholders "on the outside" need to be alert to what's happening Now on the inside of our schools under the union controlled leadership of Board president and vice president, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone. Most likely, Charles Anderson doesn't have a clue what's going on and the Springboro Education Association is pulling the strings of board members/retired educators Ron Malone and David Stuckey, who hang out in the schools just as they did last year when they were school employees, are bossing around Todd Petrey to put the will of the Union first--then take a gamble on voters saying yes the first time to increased taxes school levies that, Todd Petrey appears to be preaching to his staff, are coming soon to the board room for MSA majority vote approval.
Springboro stakeholders can stay informed by checking the school website and signing up to receive updates from all the school principals and the Boro E-News. In the Boro E-News, Todd Petrey again reminds parents that BYOT is not mandatory. Parents need to stay alert to what's happening in their child's classrooms under the indoctrination of a union classroom teacher, and must take responsibility to confront their child's classroom teacher who pressures their child to BYOT, since this requirement is not school policy. If our union classroom teachers continue pressure on children to BYOT after parents remind them that this is not required, then the parents should take the concern of the union classroom teacher's pressure of their child to the Building Principal, then if the Principal will not intervene on behalf of your child's best interest, parents should take their concerns to the Superintendent; if the superintendent ignores the child's best interest in the classroom with a union teacher, then the parents must bring their concerns to the public Board of Education meeting, so that the community as a whole is aware of our classroom teachers' intimidating behavior toward our school children who are captive audiences in their classrooms.
Springboro taxpayers are already providing a generous stream of tax revenue sufficient for providing our students a quality classroom education; and we all need to be more watchful and diligent in educating ourselves to the wasteful spending going on under the union controlled leadership of board majority members, Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, and David Stuckey.
More Money Is Not Needed; But More Accountability.
Very well stated. However, there's obviously a lot more to this. According to Todd Petrey, BYOT isn't mandatory. But the "T" in BYOT is being set up as bait to help lure on the next levy.

Knowing full well a lot of Springboro parents genuinely have difficulty in affording laptops for their children, Todd Petrey states BYOT is "not mandatory"? OM gosh! How considerate!

At this precise moment, the unwriiten BYOT policy is doing nothing but embarrassing Springboro students of familes with lesser incomes. And when this district finally realizes BYOT is counter-productive, pro-levy will be all over it.
All of this is likely a set-up to contribute to future blue & white yard signs...

"Vote YES for Levy, Vote YES for Laptops"
Pray It Forward

Springfield, OH

#31901 Aug 29, 2014
Certainly Worth Repeating wrote:
<quoted text>
I think all unions should be decertified and all children should be given a voucher to chose the school of their choice. Let parents decide how to spend their education dollars. If parents decided then this out of control, out of touch education indoctrination system would have to be shut down because there would never be the $8,000 raises for the most loyal soldiers to the admin., that money would be used to actually teach students. Students in a competitive system would benefit from one school after another that wants their business, shows success and is using the taxpayer dollars to educate not fill adult pockets. Teachers would regain a respected profession. I don't tell anyone I am a teacher anymore.
Please join with others who pray without ceasing proverbial wisdom for our school staff working under the leadership of our union controlled board majority members -- Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, David Stuckey:

"Stop listening to teaching that contradicts what you know is right."
(Proverbs 19:27)

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