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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Spiffy Quotes

Springfield, OH

#31831 Jul 27, 2014
Our school superintendent says If we didn't have great kids, we'd be losing staff big time;
but how is putting the re-emphasis on maintaining the status quo performance level helping our great kids achieve greater than just "proficient" year after year?
But, does our kids' greatness lie only in providing employment security for our union classroom teachers? Is "proficient" all there is in our children's future?

Great leaders have the confidence to empower performance improvement throughout the workplace and provide career advancement opportunities with the good of higher productivity levels becoming more of a reality.
Shouldn't our school district leaders put our union classroom teachers in a position to shoulder more responsibility and unleash their creative and productive potential, to the benefit of not just keeping the SEA staff happy in their collective employment in our taxpayer funded schools, but to the benefit of all students' individual potential academic achievement?
Contrariwise

Springfield, OH

#31832 Jul 29, 2014
Spiffy Quotes wrote:
Our school superintendent says If we didn't have great kids, we'd be losing staff big time;
but how is putting the re-emphasis on maintaining the status quo performance level helping our great kids achieve greater than just "proficient" year after year?
But, does our kids' greatness lie only in providing employment security for our union classroom teachers? Is "proficient" all there is in our children's future?
Great leaders have the confidence to empower performance improvement throughout the workplace and provide career advancement opportunities with the good of higher productivity levels becoming more of a reality.
Shouldn't our school district leaders put our union classroom teachers in a position to shoulder more responsibility and unleash their creative and productive potential, to the benefit of not just keeping the SEA staff happy in their collective employment in our taxpayer funded schools, but to the benefit of all students' individual potential academic achievement?
You Betcha!

On the contrary, as long as our union-controlled Springboro Board of Education presidentANDvicepresident, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone, are pulling the strings of our Super Puppet, Todd Petrey, all hopes of a brighter future for our school children and community will be dulled by the Shadowy figures of the Springboro Education Association union masters; and their lazy-minded approach to the challenges that lie ahead in our future 21st century education.

What you see here in Scott Maney's Big Picture of Educational Values for Springboro schools is all we will ever get from the leadership of Charles Anderson and Ron Malone--just more union forced protests against "working within budgetary means, fiscal responsibility, and garnering respect for Springboro Taxpayers.... and that's not a beautiful thing.

http://www.ohea.org/this-is-what-solidarity-l...
Overexpost

West Bloomfield, MI

#31833 Jul 29, 2014
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Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#31834 Jul 30, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
At the July 22, 2014 board meeting it was mentioned by Mr. Petrey how good our results were according to the state of Ohio. But even with that we should wait to see what the final breakdown looks like because we may be even better than now.
Mr. Petrey was of course speaking about the method by which the state determines the number of kids in each euphemistic category of Limited, Basic, Proficient, Accelerated, or Advanced.
With the swipe of a pen the state can declare more kids competent by lowering the bar to allow more children to "pass".
Lowering the bar artificially allows cover for poorly performing students, teachers, and school districts by maintaining the mirage of achievement.
Anyone out there care to debate the relative merits of making more children PROFICIENT by lowering the cut score from 44% to 36% on the Ohio Achievement Assessment reading test in the 6th grade?
Did your children get a better education as a result of that change?
PROFICIENT will still equate to FAILURE
Did your children get a better education as a result of that change?

Isn't that the REAL question that many voices are asking for S-U-R-E union activists to answer; now that the insanely popular MSA team is elected and CHANGING our winning Children First Budgeting Vision of Reform back to putting the re-emphasis on the union first best interests of maintaining status quo failed practices of the past?
Worth Repeating

Springfield, OH

#31835 Jul 30, 2014
Boro parent wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Wiedeman, thank you very much for your diligence and fearlessness in working to expose Ohio's jaded OAA grading system. Really, all you can do is hope others begin to realize the current system HAS FAILED, the current system ISN'T WORKING!.
All anyone has to do is look at the house next door... or across the street.
Boro students en masse have graduated, entered college or tech school and have realized that they're woefully under-prepared. Why? The reason - for most of their K-12 experiences, the vast majority of them have been told they're A-B students, when in fact, they were at best C-D students.
All around the nation as well as here in Ohio, the education bar keeps gradually getting lowered. Why? Certainly this has a lot to with politically motivated massive banner-hanging campaigns. No US president, no state governor, no public school district administrator, no parent likes to see declining test scores in their jurisdiction, under their watch, right?
Quite a number of politicians and educators have come to favor common core. Educators who favor common core are taking a tremendous gamble because they're throwing all their chips into a pot which essentially prohibits parents from having vocal input to their own child's education.
If they're seriously "about the students", Boro's school board ought to be putting serious thought and debate into the validity and viability of the OAA/OGT.
It's agreed with Boro Parent that...."Certainly this has a lot to do with politically motivated massive banner-hanging campaigns." Isn't "political motivation" what campaigns of Symbolism VS Sustainability is all about.... as in the "go red for ed" campaign conducted by Springboro Education Association union activists against our Children First?

If they're seriously "about the students" Boro's school board ought to be putting serious thought and debate into the OSBA indoctrinated BOE leadership VS the freedoms of the OSBLC leadership.

Can Springboro parents really trust that our OSBA leadership, that trains school board members NOT to ask questions, are not undermining our students first best interests, under the leadership of our union controlled board leaders, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone?

In theory, school board associations exist to strengthen public education. One of the ways they do that is by helping school officials stay on top of ever-changing education laws. For a fee, school board associations provide districts with sample policies that help school boards stay in full compliance with the law.
That’s pretty benign and noncontroversial.
But critics say school board associations too often veer outside of their narrow, nonpartisan mission and serve as mouthpieces for the teacher unions.
Contrariwise

Springfield, OH

#31837 Jul 31, 2014
Worth Repeating wrote:
<quoted text>
It's agreed with Boro Parent that...."Certainly this has a lot to do with politically motivated massive banner-hanging campaigns." Isn't "political motivation" what campaigns of Symbolism VS Sustainability is all about.... as in the "go red for ed" campaign conducted by Springboro Education Association union activists against our Children First?
If they're seriously "about the students" Boro's school board ought to be putting serious thought and debate into the OSBA indoctrinated BOE leadership VS the freedoms of the OSBLC leadership.
Can Springboro parents really trust that our OSBA leadership, that trains school board members NOT to ask questions, are not undermining our students first best interests, under the leadership of our union controlled board leaders, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone?
In theory, school board associations exist to strengthen public education. One of the ways they do that is by helping school officials stay on top of ever-changing education laws. For a fee, school board associations provide districts with sample policies that help school boards stay in full compliance with the law.
That’s pretty benign and noncontroversial.
But critics say school board associations too often veer outside of their narrow, nonpartisan mission and serve as mouthpieces for the teacher unions.
"For a fee, school board associations provide districts with sample policies that help school boards stay in full compliance with the law."

Unfortunately for Springboro school children and school district taxpayers,
Contrary to OSBLC policies that help school boards stay within their budgetary means, the OSBA consultants appear to help school boards create false budget crisis; for the purpose of then promoting new levies on the basis of budget deficit in the five year budget forecast that schools are required to submit to the state.
Excuse Me

Lebanon, OH

#31838 Jul 31, 2014
Pretty soon we will see the net results of borrowing of money they don't need so they can keep plenty of money available to toss at the union. Once they deplete our surplus funds through mismanagement and large raises they will honestly be able to come to the voters with a real financial crisis and demand we bail them out. Creating financial crisis is a bread and butter tool of the union. If only they put this much energy into educating our children. From the look of those test score results, I don't think many children are learning too much of anything. What are we paying for again? Babysitting?
Waste Watchers

Springfield, OH

#31839 Aug 1, 2014
Excuse Me wrote:
Pretty soon we will see the net results of borrowing of money they don't need so they can keep plenty of money available to toss at the union. Once they deplete our surplus funds through mismanagement and large raises they will honestly be able to come to the voters with a real financial crisis and demand we bail them out. Creating financial crisis is a bread and butter tool of the union. If only they put this much energy into educating our children. From the look of those test score results, I don't think many children are learning too much of anything. What are we paying for again? Babysitting?
From what we are learning about the OEA indoctrination of every child in our public schools with a union classroom teacher, many think all our children are learning too much propaganda promoting Youth Union Activists groups; fighting for Teachers Rights to advocate teachers' collective salaries/benefits to highest levels;, while wasting our school tax dollars dumbing down curriculum and lowering our standards for individual students' highest academic achievement potential by settling for "proficient?"

Doesn't proficient equal failure?

Isn't failure of the Union's Next Big Thing--unnecessary school levy number six--exactly the
direction in which our union controlled school board president and vice president, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone, are leading against our children first?....

Three votes at each board meeting ..... indebting taxpayers $5 million for unnecessary energy contract to Tremco; depleting our surplus funds through mismanagement and large raises; throwing the cost of the athletic department funding gap on the taxpayers backs even though the athletic department knowingly spent over budget; wasting taxpayers money on big costs of OSBA membership and OSBA financial consultants contracts; wasting taxpayers money on hiring Jeff Stec as outside facilitator to promote FEAR (false evidence appearing real) through community wide meetings.

Isn't the Many Voices Project vision and mission team really just out there in the community laying the foundation for the Union's Next Big Thing; presenting false budget crisis emotionally blackmailing taxpayers to vote yes to save the Union forces for the "sake of the Kids?"
De Ja Vu

Springfield, OH

#31840 Aug 1, 2014
Recently the Boro E-News announced new policy of "No late arrival or early dismissal option for students at SHS next year" stating "The Ohio Department of Eduction has changed the way school districts receive funding (Ohio Revised Code 3313.48). Attendance is now accounted for by the hour (rather than the day). Allowing students to participate in early release or late arrival significantly would reduce our districts funding by approximately
$140,000. Therefore, late arrival or early dismissal in the place of study halls is no longer an option for our juniors and seniors. Instead, students who requested early dismissal or late arrival in their 2014-2015 course schedule will be placed into a study hall, which could oocur during any period of the day......"

The Bore E-News website article continues by stating the options from which the student may choose one.......

But, inquiring minds are asking WHY our Springboro students who already requested early dismissal or late arrival in their 2014-2015 course schedule now HAVE to be placed into a study hall, just because the "state" has stamped a dollar sign on their foreheads in benefit of employment security of the union indoctrinated study hall teacher?

Perhaps many parents remember that our insanely popular retired educator (who is now elected board vice-president) ran our SHS like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose skills were not in demand. Doesn't this new restriction on our students individual freedoms to schedule courses that best fits indivdual educational needs remind you of our MSA team putting the re-emphasis on those past failed practices of MoreRon status quo?
lil birdie

Springfield, OH

#31841 Aug 2, 2014
A li'l birdie landed on my sill this morning and chirped into my ear that Petrey and his $12K publicly-funded wingman could very well make a showing at tommorrow's Family Indoctrination Day.
Just Super

Springfield, OH

#31842 Aug 2, 2014
Spot On! Just look for the union label--Petrey Does It All For SURE!
Boro Teacher since 1989

Springfield, OH

#31843 Aug 6, 2014
A bit off-topic, but I think it is important. Just an estimate, but I believe 60% of our Boro teachers would be very happy if we got a new union. Representation is fine, but they don't care about us. They simply are money-grabbers that want to line their own pockets. There...I said it!
Precisely Watson

Dayton, OH

#31844 Aug 7, 2014
Boro Teacher since 1989 wrote:
A bit off-topic, but I think it is important. Just an estimate, but I believe 60% of our Boro teachers would be very happy if we got a new union. Representation is fine, but they don't care about us. They simply are money-grabbers that want to line their own pockets. There...I said it!
THANK YOU for your insight. As a parent with kids in the Boro school system I've always appreciated the work they put in. Anytime I've ever had to communicate with a teacher about my children's grades, homework, etc., they've always been helpful.

As this new Board gets deeper into their roles it's painfully obvious that there focus is on union support NOT children first.
Precisely Watson

Dayton, OH

#31846 Aug 7, 2014
errr... there focus = their focus
Stay Alert Voters

Springfield, OH

#31847 Aug 9, 2014
Excuse Me wrote:
Pretty soon we will see the net results of borrowing of money they don't need so they can keep plenty of money available to toss at the union. Once they deplete our surplus funds through mismanagement and large raises they will honestly be able to come to the voters with a real financial crisis and demand we bail them out. Creating financial crisis is a bread and butter tool of the union. If only they put this much energy into educating our children. From the look of those test score results, I don't think many children are learning too much of anything. What are we paying for again? Babysitting?
What are we paying for again? Babysitting?

Oh Yeah And Much More!
Our district should fire the recently hired "Facilitator" and the BOE elected officials should stop their spending spree. Just one more way the school district is now using our tax dollars to promote their interests of union solidarity greed for more power and love of more money, fighting against our children first! The more you give them, the more they will waste!
Wake Up Springboro

Springfield, OH

#31848 Aug 9, 2014
Stay Alert Voters wrote:
<quoted text>
What are we paying for again? Babysitting?
Oh Yeah And Much More!
Our district should fire the recently hired "Facilitator" and the BOE elected officials should stop their spending spree. Just one more way the school district is now using our tax dollars to promote their interests of union solidarity greed for more power and love of more money, fighting against our children first! The more you give them, the more they will waste!
Did you know that a professional facilitator is an expert in creating conversation. As a third party facilitator for all of the district's community conversations, the facilitator allows school leadership to dedicate their time and energy to doing what they need to do.... listen.

He is the executive director at specialized citizens group forCivic Renewal, an organization committed to engaging citizens to help build and strengthen our communities together. He will lead (or could that be dominate) a conversation that will help the community COLLECTIVELY answer a key question: What do our kids need to succeed?

The above paragraph was found online regarding the very special field of convincing a community to pass a levy. When you see the word "facilitator" be very cautious in your trust of the information coming out of their mouth. Always Remember that the government schools are totally controlled by the union. Their constant demands for more money, more benefits and less classroom responsibility require that the property owners transfer more and more money from their income into the pockets of the union members and administrators of each district.
Reject Forced Unionism

Springfield, OH

#31849 Aug 10, 2014
Excuse Me wrote:
Pretty soon we will see the net results of borrowing of money they don't need so they can keep plenty of money available to toss at the union. Once they deplete our surplus funds through mismanagement and large raises they will honestly be able to come to the voters with a real financial crisis and demand we bail them out. Creating financial crisis is a bread and butter tool of the union. If only they put this much energy into educating our children. From the look of those test score results, I don't think many children are learning too much of anything. What are we paying for again? Babysitting?
It's a terrible thing that our children's minds are being wasted by union classroom teachers indoctrinating Youth activists groups to maintain status quo fighting for teachers employment security and against our children first.

More money is simply not the answer. Far more important than the amount of money spent is that each school district has the minimum amount of funds to provide every Ohio student with a basic education.

As with all federal, state, and local government spending, we must move toward a model that substantially increases cost TRANSPARENCY, such as the Children First Budgeting Vision of Reform provided by our school board leadership during the past two years, before our union controlled MSA team was elected. Cost Transparency means the TRUE cost to the individual (or Household) of a government program. Unfortunately, it is increasingly evident to taxpayers that the $12,000/yr. contract wasted on the Ohio School Boards Association financial consultant does not afford transparency as to the true cost of a quality classroom education putting priority on highest academic achievement while living within our community means. And that's a terrible thing.....for all Springboro stakeholders

....... that under our current board leadership of Charles Anderson and Ron Malone, that our school superintendent has thrown aside the restraints of fiscal responsibility in school district budgeting within our means, and has activated a renewed interest of back to status quo failed practices of the past; putting the re-emphasis on union classroom teachers employment security.
Yuck

Mason, OH

#31850 Aug 10, 2014
This blog is the most comical, misinformed tirade of uneducated countryfolk that we have ever seen! Several of us just scrolled through this blog together over a glass of wine and reminded ourselves why Springboro never will amount to anything. Try to get some class, "Boro".
boss man

Dayton, OH

#31851 Aug 10, 2014
Yuck wrote:
This blog is the most comical, misinformed tirade of uneducated countryfolk that we have ever seen! Several of us just scrolled through this blog together over a glass of wine and reminded ourselves why Springboro never will amount to anything. Try to get some class, "Boro".
"over a glass of wine"..what, a gallon bottle of Pisano ?...got nothing better to do...yea, real classy ...you should talk...
Best of the Class

Springfield, OH

#31852 Aug 10, 2014
Yuck wrote:
This blog is the most comical, misinformed tirade of uneducated countryfolk that we have ever seen! Several of us just scrolled through this blog together over a glass of wine and reminded ourselves why Springboro never will amount to anything. Try to get some class, "Boro".
Sorry "Charlie" but the best of the class on school district Policy matters was "rejected" in public school board meeting by Springboro schools superintendent, telling the community
that the school district needed input from only ONE parent on important school policy
matters.(and that ONE potty mouth mom chosen by the school superintendent is the worse of the class for SURE).

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