Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Waste

Toledo, OH

#31779 Jul 21, 2014
I've heard they may have to hire someone part time to keep up with public records requests. Seems like a waste to me.
Here we go again

Toledo, OH

#31780 Jul 21, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Does anyone remember the days of yore when the union and its supporters were telling us vociferously that spending $15,000 to investigate the benefits a charter school might bring to Springboro's children was not possible because we simply did not have $15,000 to waste?
It now appears money is no object as we pay create new and exciting ways in which to funnel more money to the union.
I might suggest instead of wasting money on one person to be the "Testing Coordinator", we simply have our teachers teach the material that exists in our text books already.
Is there anything on these basic state tests that cannot be found in out text books?
Last time a checked, Ms. Stritenberger is not a union member.....nice try!
Let Freedom Ring

Springboro, OH

#31781 Jul 21, 2014
Waste wrote:
I've heard they may have to hire someone part time to keep up with public records requests. Seems like a waste to me.
No Waste at all for Taxpayers to Invest our most valuable Resource - Our Precious Time- in the process of helping inform our Community residents of the responsibility of all to hold our government's elected officials Accountable to the Taxpayers. Without this process of an informed community, there will be no good government leaders upholding and protecting our Great American Freedoms and our Constitutional Rights to freely exercise our Freedoms.
Never Forget -- What You Don't Use.... You May Lose.

May God Bless America.... Land That I Love!
There You Go Again

Springboro, OH

#31782 Jul 21, 2014
Here we go again wrote:
<quoted text>Last time a checked, Ms. Stritenberger is not a union member.....nice try!
Last time I checked, Ms. Strittenberger is STILL owned by the Springboro Education Association Members, and proudly wears the pro-union label of MoreRon status quo, putting the re-emphasis on the Professional Educators (which for SURE includes Ms. Strittenberger)
protesting against our children first!

Where were you, just a year or so ago, when a pro-levy coalition of union activists descended upon the Board room demanding that the board just go ahead, right now, and guarantee renewal of all the administrators contract, so that we don't risk "losing" these wonderful ONES to school districts luring them out of our children's classrooms, waving signs of Big Dollars ....... if they come?

It's True that Ms. Strittenberger is not a union member; but did you know that the more dollars that the Springboro Education Association can strong arm out of Springboro families, that the higher percentage of increases/compensation/benefit s packages are also awarded to the school administrators, and last time I checked, that included Ms. Strittenberger....
AND Lee Vincent AND John Pennell AND on and on and...... well, here we go again!.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31783 Jul 21, 2014
Here we go again wrote:
<quoted text>Last time a checked, Ms. Stritenberger is not a union member.....nice try!
But she supports them and their agenda in much the same way Mr. Malone managed to curry their favor.
Excuse Me

Lebanon, OH

#31784 Jul 22, 2014
Waste wrote:
I've heard they may have to hire someone part time to keep up with public records requests. Seems like a waste to me.
Yes, we certainly would not want the public to be informed on any issues that may arise. I wonder how many they get a day, a week, a month, during the course of a year?
Let Freedom Ring

Springboro, OH

#31785 Jul 22, 2014
Today's news reports that Springboro Parents: Kelly Kohls; Sonny Thomas; will be speaking at the July 22 Board of Education meeting scheduled at 7:00 p.m. in the Springboro Junior High School Library, exercising our great Constitutional rights of freedom of speech!
And that's a good thing, thanks to the Godly Wisdom of our Great Founding Fathers of this Great Nation!

Perhaps you remember a few months ago that our school superintendent took action by consulting legal authorities in efforts to
prevent this freedom of speech at the board room podium, without prior screening of the citizen's identity and intent being scrutinized in the FEAR (false evidence appearing real) of our "kids safety."

This "policy revision" restricting free speech in the board room did not take place, thanks to the expertise of Board policy matters and wise leadership skills of ONE voice of ONE of our elected BOE representatives, Jim Rigano. And that is what a Role Model of Good Citizenship looks like!

People in this community should email board member Jim Rigano and let him know how much his public service to our schools and community, upholding the U.S. Constitution, is Appreciated!
Waste Watchers

Springboro, OH

#31786 Jul 22, 2014
Let Freedom Ring wrote:
Today's news reports that Springboro Parents: Kelly Kohls; Sonny Thomas; will be speaking at the July 22 Board of Education meeting scheduled at 7:00 p.m. in the Springboro Junior High School Library, exercising our great Constitutional rights of freedom of speech!
And that's a good thing, thanks to the Godly Wisdom of our Great Founding Fathers of this Great Nation!
Perhaps you remember a few months ago that our school superintendent took action by consulting legal authorities in efforts to
prevent this freedom of speech at the board room podium, without prior screening of the citizen's identity and intent being scrutinized in the FEAR (false evidence appearing real) of our "kids safety."
This "policy revision" restricting free speech in the board room did not take place, thanks to the expertise of Board policy matters and wise leadership skills of ONE voice of ONE of our elected BOE representatives, Jim Rigano. And that is what a Role Model of Good Citizenship looks like!
People in this community should email board member Jim Rigano and let him know how much his public service to our schools and community, upholding the U.S. Constitution, is Appreciated!
What a Waste of Free Speech Rights IF this post is deleted. Keep Watching.....

Our school superintendent is often heard telling Springboro Taxpayers that our educators are our school districts most valuable resource; but I would argue that our Freedoms protected by our Constitutional Rights are the most Valuable, not only in Springboro, but "from California to the New York Island!" People just want to be FREE of enslavement to the government "entitlements" in their own pursuit of happiness!

The way I see it, our Springboro Education Association is WRONG to protest against our
Springboro Families differing values in education; school choice, and right to work freedom
in our chosen careers (without the heavy Taxation of Dues paid to the Union).
Insanely Hypocritical

Springboro, OH

#31787 Jul 22, 2014
Waste wrote:
I've heard they may have to hire someone part time to keep up with public records requests. Seems like a waste to me.
"Waste" seems insanely hypocritical to me.

Perhaps "Waste" has not considered that private citizens would not have to spend so much of their costly time and attention requesting these public records IF these important school district issues were being handled in the same open and transparent manner as the Board Committee Members done during the past two years, under the leadership of our former 2013 schoolboardpresident and vicepresident's good leadership.

In just six months under the leadership of our current board leadership (Charles Anderson and Ron Malone) our school superintendent has dismantled our Board budget/finance and Board policy committees; thrown out our elected officials as Chair persons of these important committees, appointed his own preferred Springboro parents as members of the district committees; and stopped direct communication between the BOE elected officials and the Springboro taxpayers.
six geese a laying

Springboro, OH

#31788 Jul 23, 2014
Stop The Insanity wrote:
<quoted text>
People in the community should take another look at the July 22, 2014 Board of Education Meeting Agenda, and don't forget to read the fine print of the File Attachments of Subject 5.9 Approval of Personnel Items in the Director of Human Resources Report.
(Please note that Lee Vincent usually presents request for approval without reading all the listings at the public board meeting; but check it out on the school website and you will see a list of 69 recommended employment requests). But WHY these supplementals of $8000 paid to our already highly paid school administrators, Tammy Strittenberger, Lee Vincent, and John Pennell?
In addition to the $8000 cost of approval to employ Administrative Supplemental for Tammy Strittenberger in the position of District-CCIP Coordinator, please note these additional requests for approval to employ administrative supplementals of $8000 to Lee Vincent-District Work Study Coordinator and $8000 Administrative Supplemental for John Pennell's position as District Testing Coordinator! Excuse ME! Are the Salaries of these already highly paid school administrators available to the public? And isn't John Pennell's salary as Business Manager $100,000 plus some; and now Mr. Petrey is offering an additional $8000 to the business manager in the position of district testing coordinator? What does the business manager John Pennell know about "district testing."
$8000 wasted here....$8000 wasted there....
Keep this up, and sooner rather than later the general fund will be in a complete shambles. Then again, of course, this is part of the majority's overall strategy. Create lots of perceived needs, then fill these needs with taxpayer's dollars. What's this all about? No secret here! Anyone with half a brain already knows! It's all about pushing new millage onto the ballot LONG before it's needed.
Just One Voice

Springboro, OH

#31789 Jul 23, 2014
Stay Alert Voters!..... so that we do not get caught up in the emotional manipulation of our Springboro Education Association's clever strategy for SURE taking over our Constitutional Rights of Private Citizens to present our concerns (and argue our grievances) to our union controlled Board of Education elected officials, Charles Anderson, Ron Malone and David Stuckey.

You can go to the school websites at www.springboro.org and click on the Board of Education heading, then click on the Board meetings agenda and meetings listing, and pull up the meeting agenda of the July 22, 2014, public school board meeting.

Please Note that there is no Subject Item on the agenda of Todd Petrey's presentation last night of the discussion regarding the $5 million energy contract recently awarded to Tremco; whose employee is Springboro Parent and Private Citizen, Todd Smith, who was appointed by Todd Petrey to the District Budget/Finance Committee. Point of interest is that Todd Petrey said that he would not answer email questions, but he would meet privately with anyone who had questions. Still, Todd Petrey presented another dialogue defending the superintendent's right to indebt Springboro Taxpayers this $5 million contract, and because Todd Smith is NOT an elected official, there is NO WAY that "we the people" can hold him accountable, nor ask him direct questions.

Todd Petrey did acknowledge that this $5 million does NOT belong to the Board Members, Nor does this $5 million belong to the school district employees; The money belongs to the Community Taxpayers, BUT, because Todd Petrey (a school employee) took control of the Board Budget/Finance Committee, ONLY the Voice of ONE private citizen (Todd Smith) was represented in this wasteful spending of ALL taxpayers hard earned money. It does appear that Todd Petrey's "self appointed" District committee members is for S-U-R-E, "self serving"
based on ONE future of Union Solidarity for all, AGAINST respect for differing Beliefs and Values in Education. And that is insanely disrespectful to taxpayers (who no doubt will be asked to clean up this WASTE by covering it all up with layers and layers of GREEN dollars right out of our household budget into Terrah Floyd's OSBA financial consultants bank account, at the rate of $1000 per month (or another $12,000 per year) courtesy of our newly employed full time Treasurer. Springboro taxpayers do not know WHO this OSBA
hired third party might be who is consulting our Treasurer on how to propose our multi-million dollar five year budget forecast; guess we're just supposed to shut up and trust the educators to stupidly waste our school tax dollars and then Vote yes for unnecessary school levies the First time our union controlled Board president, Charles Anderson, asks for More, More,More.....

It is understood that this is another example of ways that important school district issues of Policy and Budget/Finance, which affects ALL Springboro stakeholders are not being conducted in the same manner of Transparency (to the public) as they were done during the two years that our elected officials, Jim Rigano and David Petroni, chaired these important BOARD committees. Springboro taxpayers are not being listened to, nor our needs being considered, by our Board of Education elected officials leadership, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone. And that is insanely disrespectful.
the buddy system

Springboro, OH

#31791 Jul 23, 2014
Just One Voice wrote:
Please Note that there is no Subject Item on the agenda of Todd Petrey's presentation last night of the discussion regarding the $5 million energy contract recently awarded to Tremco; whose employee is Springboro Parent and Private Citizen, Todd Smith, who was appointed by Todd Petrey to the District Budget/Finance Committee. Point of interest is that Todd Petrey said that he would not answer email questions, but he would meet privately with anyone who had questions. Still, Todd Petrey presented another dialogue defending the superintendent's right to indebt Springboro Taxpayers this $5 million contract, and because Todd Smith is NOT an elected official, there is NO WAY that "we the people" can hold him accountable, nor ask him direct questions.
That's a pile of horse####!
Yes, it's true Todd Smith is not an elected official.
However, Smith became accountable to each and every taxpayer of Springboro Community City School District THE INSTANT Todd Petrey appointed him to the district's budget committee!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31792 Jul 23, 2014
Where to begin from last night's July 22 board meeting.

Mr. Malone saying text books don't teach, they don't matter, teachers can teach whatever they want.

Never has the wise old man spoke a more true statement.

Now we couple Mr. Malone's assessment of teachers with Mr. Petrey's claim that 97% of the kids in the 6th grade passed reading on the latest OAA test.

What Mr. Petrey neglected to mention was that a child needed to be able to answer only 44% of the test correctly to pass according to our stringent state requirements.

That is right, a child only needs to score 44% on a basic state test to "pass".

44% on a reading test will not even allow the child to fill our an unemployment form in the future.

Who is responsible for this educational miasma?

According to Mr. Malone, teachers teaching whatever they wish.
Worth Repeating

Springboro, OH

#31793 Jul 23, 2014
Just One Voice wrote:
Stay Alert Voters!..... so that we do not get caught up in the emotional manipulation of our Springboro Education Association's clever strategy for SURE taking over our Constitutional Rights of Private Citizens to present our concerns (and argue our grievances) to our union controlled Board of Education elected officials, Charles Anderson, Ron Malone and David Stuckey.
You can go to the school websites at www.springboro.org and click on the Board of Education heading, then click on the Board meetings agenda and meetings listing, and pull up the meeting agenda of the July 22, 2014, public school board meeting.
Please Note that there is no Subject Item on the agenda of Todd Petrey's presentation last night of the discussion regarding the $5 million energy contract recently awarded to Tremco; whose employee is Springboro Parent and Private Citizen, Todd Smith, who was appointed by Todd Petrey to the District Budget/Finance Committee. Point of interest is that Todd Petrey said that he would not answer email questions, but he would meet privately with anyone who had questions. Still, Todd Petrey presented another dialogue defending the superintendent's right to indebt Springboro Taxpayers this $5 million contract, and because Todd Smith is NOT an elected official, there is NO WAY that "we the people" can hold him accountable, nor ask him direct questions.
Todd Petrey did acknowledge that this $5 million does NOT belong to the Board Members, Nor does this $5 million belong to the school district employees; The money belongs to the Community Taxpayers, BUT, because Todd Petrey (a school employee) took control of the Board Budget/Finance Committee, ONLY the Voice of ONE private citizen (Todd Smith) was represented in this wasteful spending of ALL taxpayers hard earned money. It does appear that Todd Petrey's "self appointed" District committee members is for S-U-R-E, "self serving"
based on ONE future of Union Solidarity for all, AGAINST respect for differing Beliefs and Values in Education. And that is insanely disrespectful to taxpayers (who no doubt will be asked to clean up this WASTE by covering it all up with layers and layers of GREEN dollars right out of our household budget into Terrah Floyd's OSBA financial consultants bank account, at the rate of $1000 per month (or another $12,000 per year) courtesy of our newly employed full time Treasurer. Springboro taxpayers do not know WHO this OSBA
hired third party might be who is consulting our Treasurer on how to propose our multi-million dollar five year budget forecast; guess we're just supposed to shut up and trust the educators to stupidly waste our school tax dollars and then Vote yes for unnecessary school levies the First time our union controlled Board president, Charles Anderson, asks for More, More,More.....
It is understood that this is another example of ways that important school district issues of Policy and Budget/Finance, which affects ALL Springboro stakeholders are not being conducted in the same manner of Transparency (to the public) as they were done during the two years that our elected officials, Jim Rigano and David Petroni, chaired these important BOARD committees. Springboro taxpayers are not being listened to, nor our needs being considered, by our Board of Education elected officials leadership, Charles Anderson and Ron Malone. And that is insanely disrespectful.
Many Voices.... many concerns for the future of our school children and community under the inept leadership of union controlled MSA team --- ALL for ONE union solidarity
for S-U-R-E.
Smith speak with

Cleveland, OH

#31794 Jul 23, 2014
Forked tongue
It is true many of his energy improvements will last a long time, but it also means we will have a 20 year debt to pay for long since obsoleted energy saving devices. A decade ago a super high efficiency HVAC unit was 12 SEER, now they are nearly 20. Anybody want to bet on what they will be in 10 more years.
A better option would be a yearly measured upgrade program that replaced items with the highest rating for that year. A systematic approach that would not require going into $5,000,000 worth of debt using a queer and abnormal fund raising scheme that puts everything the district owns up as collateral. All this while bypassing the taxpayer who will now be on the hook for the next 20 years paying for long outmoded equipment and forgotten inefficient light fixtures.
If this is such a good idea, why not put a levy on the ballot and get the money the safe way?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31797 Jul 24, 2014
The previous post flew in the face of Ms. Stritenberger and Mr. Petrey assertion that the junior high is doing quite well on the basic state math test known as the Ohio Achievement Assessment test. Post #31795 and #31796

They already deleted one, let us all see how long it takes them to censor the truth on this one.

A more honest assessment of the children's level of knowledge reveals that we have:

PASSING 75% or better - 23%

FAILING 74% or lower - 77%

That is not really much to write home about. am I wrong in my assessment?

Using an artificially low scale to judge the effectiveness of our program of studies is intellectually dishonest.

Celebrating this feat when we know the underlying basis for these facts is intellectually dishonest and cheats our children of a true education. An education we are most certainly capable of providing all of our children. Celebrating this feat when we know the underlying basis for these facts is intellectually dishonest and cheats our children of a true education. An education we are most certainly capable of providing all of our children.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31798 Jul 24, 2014
the buddy system wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a pile of horse####!
Yes, it's true Todd Smith is not an elected official.
However, Smith became accountable to each and every taxpayer of Springboro Community City School District THE INSTANT Todd Petrey appointed him to the district's budget committee!
Isn't that the reason they gave for disqualifying Matt Worthen, the head of our IT department, from attending any meetings regarding our IT needs while he was still employed but had given his notice?
Straight To The Point

Springboro, OH

#31799 Jul 24, 2014
Smith speak with wrote:
Forked tongue
It is true many of his energy improvements will last a long time, but it also means we will have a 20 year debt to pay for long since obsoleted energy saving devices. A decade ago a super high efficiency HVAC unit was 12 SEER, now they are nearly 20. Anybody want to bet on what they will be in 10 more years.
A better option would be a yearly measured upgrade program that replaced items with the highest rating for that year. A systematic approach that would not require going into $5,000,000 worth of debt using a queer and abnormal fund raising scheme that puts everything the district owns up as collateral. All this while bypassing the taxpayer who will now be on the hook for the next 20 years paying for long outmoded equipment and forgotten inefficient light fixtures.
If this is such a good idea, why not put a levy on the ballot and get the money the safe way?
No "IFs" about it ....... This Tremco contract IS such a BAD idea, WHY not Reverse the
Votes of the union controlled MSA team and CANCEL the contract?

Keep in Mind there is no "safe" way for our local government to overtax its Citizens by putting unnecessary levies on the ballot..... The Union masters must always consider the "risk" in seeking to overtax an informed community of civic minded citizens.

Anybody out there remember the failure of the May 2013 unnecessary CCFD 93% fire levy tax increase against Springboro families, imposed upon us by our union controlled CC Township Trustees, Ed Wade and Jason Gabbard?
ditch digger

Dayton, OH

#31800 Jul 24, 2014
bottom line: I have and always will vote against school levies. All of this stuff is just white noise to me.

P.S. don't quote spiffy quotes like, "you hate kids, or don't care for home values, or it only costs a meal for 4 once a week", etc, etc..
Get Real

Springboro, OH

#31801 Jul 24, 2014
the buddy system wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a pile of horse####!
Yes, it's true Todd Smith is not an elected official.
However, Smith became accountable to each and every taxpayer of Springboro Community City School District THE INSTANT Todd Petrey appointed him to the district's budget committee!
And, isn't it also TRUE that Todd Petrey is NOT an elected official?

Todd Petrey is an employee of Springboro Taxpayers, who was hired to serve the educational needs of all Springboro Families without bias for S-U-R-E.

Todd Petrey went a bit beyond the TRUTH when he defended Todd Smith's service of expertise on the Budget Committee.... since 1997???

Perhaps MoreRon's status quo tunnel vision has blinded Mr. Petrey to the fact that the concern of community members IS not focused on Todd Smith's character (nor the fact that Todd Smith has his kids enrolled in Springboro schools)....

Community members engaged in discussions of these important school district issues are focused on the seemingly "bad judgment in decision making" shown by Mr. Petrey,
during the past six months under the leadership of our union controlled Board of Education majority members: Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, and David Stuckey.

Wake Up Springboro -- This is NOT a Children First board room any more!
Mr. Petrey does it all for S-U-R-E!

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